wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY | Here we go folks....
Regardless of how you feel about this, we can all expect to see a big increase in the taxes we pay to cover this upcoming fiasco. Money under the matress anyone?  |
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nothing00
join:2001-06-10
Centereach, NY | correction: ..the biggest corporate giveaway the FCC has..
That's what Copps meant to say anyway. Maybe they're trying to outdo themselves as a follow on to the spectrum auctions. |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey | reply to wifi4milez
Re: Here we go folks....
Crisis, Spend the next generations money, Crisis, spend the following generations money. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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said by wifi4milez  :Regardless of how you feel about this, we can all expect to see a big increase in the taxes we pay to cover this upcoming fiasco. Money under the matress anyone? Are you seriously that stupid?
Ok it's alreay been discussed that it would cost $150 billion( about what the top ten richest people in the US have ) to built out broadband everywhere. Now let's just say we double that just in case so that's $300 billion. Now it's also been stated it's 10 year project. More likely 12 years. So $300 billion over 12 years is 25 billion a year. Cost per citizen $80 a year. And that if teh governemnt is footing 100% of the bill which they won't be.
Get off the every dime the government spends is bad. Sorry this is REAL life not fantasyland. There will NEVER be a time where there won't be taxes to be paid. I get so sick of idiots that expect everything for free and somehow expect everything to magically get paid for without money. |
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Austinloop
join:2001-08-19
Austin, TX
| Sorry, BF, got to disagree with you, but it is a big deal at $80.00 per month per person, that is just one governmental body putting their had in your wallet, there is universal health care, etc, etc. After all the $80 are combined for each individual, it is a considerable sum. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by Austinloop :Sorry, BF, got to disagree with you, but it is a big deal at $80.00 per month per person, that is just one governmental body putting their had in your wallet, there is universal health care, etc, etc. After all the $80 are combined for each individual, it is a considerable sum. That's $80 a YEAR ninny. Since when do you file income taxes monthly? Reading is not your strong suit I see. And that's the average. The fact is that the top 5% incomes pay 95% of the taxes. I'm going to assume you are in the bottom 95% that pays only 5% of the taxes. So that comes out to be $4.50 per YEAR durring the project's buildout.
Second most people pay more than $80 a year in USF taxes on their phone bills. Why not use that money for it? |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
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·Patriot Media
| said by BF69 :said by Austinloop :Sorry, BF, got to disagree with you, but it is a big deal at $80.00 per month per person, that is just one governmental body putting their had in your wallet, there is universal health care, etc, etc. After all the $80 are combined for each individual, it is a considerable sum. That's $80 a YEAR ninny. Since when do you file income taxes monthly? Reading is not your strong suit I see. And that's the average. The fact is that the top 5% incomes pay 95% of the taxes. I'm going to assume you are in the bottom 95% that pays only 5% of the taxes. So that comes out to be $4.50 per YEAR durring the project's buildout. Second most people pay more than $80 a year in USF taxes on their phone bills. Why not use that money for it? But thats addition too, and with the price of energy and everything else going up all we will only be able to afford will be 128 dsl.
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·RoadRunner Cable
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said by BF69 :said by wifi4milez :Regardless of how you feel about this, we can all expect to see a big increase in the taxes we pay to cover this upcoming fiasco. Money under the matress anyone? Are you seriously that stupid? Are you seriously stupid enough to argue that a nationwide broadband plan that is "the biggest project the FCC has ever undertaken" wont raise taxes?? If so then I guess this is a rhetorical question for you....
said by BF69 :There will NEVER be a time where there won't be taxes to be paid. Exactly, so perhaps we should look at ways to CUT additional taxes from being added on??
said by BF69 :I get so sick of idiots that expect everything for free and somehow expect everything to magically get paid for without money. I 100% agree with that statement. In fact, I think this whole broadband plan is going to screw countless generations of Americans. It going to be the gift that keeps on giving (in a negative way), much like the rest of Obamas "initiatives". This is a bad idea, and if it was truly warranted it would be built out by private companies.
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When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.
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baycreeker
@baycreek.net | reply to Austinloop
It's 80 a year, not a month. hardly a drop in the bucket. well maybe a drop in the bucket but if you people reading this can't afford 80 a year then you suck at life |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | reply to wifi4milez
My friend, you forget that most millennials believe that everything is free to begin with. Your logical points will be lost on most people in that generation.
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH
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said by wifi4milez :This is a bad idea, and if it was truly warranted it would be built out by private companies. It sure seems like private companies are dragging their asses as building out this infrastructure that you speak of. They sure want to get as much money out of the existing infrastructure as they can, and eliminate any competition that they can.
Since most ISPs are also content distributors, I for one believe that they should not have a monopoly over the delivery network. Let the infrastructure be run by public companies regulated by the PUC, and let these greedy idiots fight for the right to be a distributor of content.
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
·Verizon FIOS
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·RoadRunner Cable
·BroadVoice
| said by wentlanc :said by wifi4milez :This is a bad idea, and if it was truly warranted it would be built out by private companies. It sure seems like private companies are dragging their asses as building out this infrastructure that you speak of. Therein lies the dilemma. The reason the private companies havent built it is because its not profitable to do so. Hence, the government would be either forcing them to do it at a loss, OR the government would be spending OUR money on a money losing venture.
Take your pick, both options suck....
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When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH | I call bullshit on the fact that they cannot make a profit by creating an infrastructure. Why are they spending so much money on lobbying and lawsuits to prevent infrastructure by competitors??
cw |
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Skippy25
join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO | reply to BF69
I'm late to the party, but I would say it would be a wash as we will save more than $80 a year on broadband cost savings that we we as consumers would pay with the additional competition this will bring. (Assuming it brings some.) |
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Klinky
join:2002-05-30
Beaverton, OR
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Not profitable or more like they don't have to because there really isn't any competition in most areas? Who really has two cable companies to chose from or two phone companies to chose from in their area? Some don't even have competing telco & cable companies in their area.
It's real simple to keep pushing the same crap when there's no one else to turn to. It's either pay-up or live without & as time goes on the internet is become a very vital resource to most Americans. |
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