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iansltx

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Kerrvile, TX 40M+ (DS3 replacement)

Current provider is Qwest for port, Windstream for loop. Location is fiber-fed, got a DS3 off of that. IP space is a few class C's if I remember correctly (doing this secondhand) and would be preferable, though not required, to keep it (probably would mean staying with Qwest as the ISP for the connection).

Link is at about 70% of capacity at last check, so could move to 40 Mbit Ethernet if there was a substantial price difference between that and a DS3. A less expensive link would be the first priority, but a higher capacity one would be nice as well.

4500 Fredericksburg Road
Kerville, TX 78028
830-895-XXXX

Thx in advance for the quotes! If they're high, alternate locations could be considered, though it would require network changes that would only be doable if the price differential was quite high.
voice_data

join:2006-02-25

Re: Kerrvile, TX 40M+ (DS3 replacement)

Preliminary check of rack rate is: $8,634 per month for a full DS3. However I can check other sources which will take some time. Will get back to you ASAP.
FreedomFire

join:2004-07-23
Chesapeake, VA

Please submit your request for quote and requirements here....with any details you deem important in the comments section (e.g. application(s), # users, price range, timeline, location(s), etc.):

»DS3-Bandwidth.com

Don't let the url fool you. We cover every bandwidth solution option including T1 (bonded/multiple, pt-pt, MPLS), DS3 (fractional, bonded, pt-pt, etc) OCx, metro ethernet (GigE etc), and fiber.

....we'll see what we can find for you comparing multiple Tier 1 and Top Tier 2 providers (over 30). We'll provide snap shot results immediately via email....and more detailed results as follow-up. We'll likely call to answer any questions you have ... and especially to go over all options that may lower your costs. We want to make sure you get the absolute best solution for you.

God Bless,
Michael Lemm
FreedomFire Communications
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iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO

Re: Kerrvile, TX 40M+ (DS3 replacement)

FreedomFire, the quote tool doesn't work without a full phone number, which I don't have. Any other options?
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO

Re: Kerrvile, TX 40M+ (DS3 replacement)

So far best quote is $6250. Loop is a killer here, in case anyone hasn't noticed
voice_data

join:2006-02-25

Re: Kerrvile, TX 40M+ (DS3 replacement)

Just received back another quote for $6,692 MRC. Checking more...
voice_data

join:2006-02-25

Re: Kerrvile, TX 40M+ (DS3 replacement)

Additional quote: $5,065.00 MRC.
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO

Re: Kerrvile, TX 40M+ (DS3 replacement)

To clarify, the $5065 quote is for a different address than Kerrville.

Problem now is that there's nearly two years left on the Qwest DS3 contract...wonder if there's any way to get around that if the port is still Qwest...
djweis

join:2006-04-02
West Des Moines, IA

Re: Kerrvile, TX 40M+ (DS3 replacement)

The 'general' rule for Qwest contracts is that if you recontract for 110% of the previous one (10% more $$) you can roll over the liability. That is generallly similar for QC (local dialtone) and QCC (PRI, Internet, etc). That does limit you to Qwest bandwidth though. It might be easier to talk to whomever sold you the bandwidth in the first place.
FreedomFire

join:2004-07-23
Chesapeake, VA

You don't have a full phone number for that location? Does that mean you don't "have" the building then? Just curious as to why you don't have a full number if you own the site.

Anyway .... just input a valid number that's as close as possible to the actual location (e.g. ssomeone else in the building or an adjacent building). Just be sure to use a valid (sic real) number for the contact phone if there's any questions.

God Bless,
Michael Lemm
FreedomFire Communications
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»www.linkedin.com/in/freedomfirecom

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Re: Kerrvile, TX 40M+ (DS3 replacement)

said by FreedomFire See Profile :

You don't have a full phone number for that location? Does that mean you don't "have" the building then? Just curious as to why you don't have a full number if you own the site.
There are many people, and businesses that don't have a POTS line at their location, more so with WISP's and tower locations.

I hope you really aren't surprised by this!
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ineedatech

join:2002-07-10
Fort Washakie, WY

said by FreedomFire See Profile :

You don't have a full phone number for that location? Does that mean you don't "have" the building then? Just curious as to why you don't have a full number if you own the site.

That way they can sell sell sell to you.

RockyBB
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Longmont, CO

Re: Kerrvile, TX 40M+ (DS3 replacement)

said by ineedatech See Profile :

That way they can sell sell sell to you.
That is not correct. Land line phone numbers are used to determine local central office which is necessary to develop local loop pricing. That's why we can't use cell phone numbers and VOIP numbers and CLEC numbers because they don't track to the local central office. It's a "garbage in garbage out" kind of thing.
bandwidthkiw

join:2008-03-12
Cary, NC
True regarding the CLEC etc bit however most carrier pricing tools work just fine on NPA NXX so you can put whatever you want at the end ie 5555

Mizzat
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Re: Kerrvile, TX 40M+ (DS3 replacement)

said by bandwidthkiw See Profile :

True regarding the CLEC etc bit however most carrier pricing tools work just fine on NPA NXX so you can put whatever you want at the end ie 5555
Not always, some blocks are splity, 0000-3999 could be one carrier, 4000-9999 could be anther, such a real phone number is preferred.
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iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO

Re: Kerrvile, TX 40M+ (DS3 replacement)

I know this isn't a direct comparison, but here Verizon cells and Nextel use 830-992.. Maybe some VZ landlines too.
djweis

join:2006-04-02
West Des Moines, IA

Prior to LNP it was more reliable. Even now each landline CO has it's native NPA-NXX that identifies it. It's also called the LSO. For an example 515-243 is DESMIADT near me. If I am getting a quote for any address served from that physical wire center no matter what their real telephone number is I can provide 515-243 and it will be quoted correctly. That doesn't help at all for distance sensitive products like Ethernet over Copper or DSL but is fine for DS1 and DS3.
PAETECT1

join:2009-06-18
Mount Laurel, NJ
Have you considere PAETEC, I can get you a quote through them. Please advise
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO

Re: Kerrvile, TX 40M+ (DS3 replacement)

I'm pretty sure I remember a PAETEC rep calling me, and he couldn't give me as good a rate as I could get elsewhere.
PAETECT1

join:2009-06-18
Mount Laurel, NJ

I'm on the agent side, he was most likely a direct rep. I can get you better pricing. I also found out that we could use your current Qwest loop if needed, So you would just have to pay the port charge. I can get you one year pricing but three year will be more aggressive. also I will see about getting the instalation waived as well. Would this be o.k. Please advise
iansltx

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Re: Kerrvile, TX 40M+ (DS3 replacement)

Unfortunately, the port is Qwest, not the loop. The loop is effectively a combo of AT&T and Windstream (yep, two loops). Also, this side of things probably won't go anywhere...I'll probably be back on here later with a quote request for something, but it won't necessarily be the Kerrville location.
PAETECT1

join:2009-06-18
Mount Laurel, NJ

Good afternoon, I recieved the pricing back for your DS3. I wanted to check with our engineers to ensure we can drop the circuit to you. The great thing is . If we use my Loop & Port I am $3859.91 for a full 45MB with SLA's. That does not include the router. Let me know how we look. Thank you
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO

Re: Kerrvile, TX 40M+ (DS3 replacement)

If that is indeed the price, that is significantly better than anything I've gotten so far, actually.
PAETECT1

join:2009-06-18
Mount Laurel, NJ

Re: Kerrvile, TX 40M+ (DS3 replacement)

The good thing is that The contract can actualy be executed.
and installed. Let me know when you plan on making a descision and we can speak further. Thanks

John
bandwidthkiw

join:2008-03-12
Cary, NC

Not to put a damper on all this but iansltx did state:

Problem now is that there's nearly two years left on the Qwest DS3 contract...wonder if there's any way to get around that if the port is still Qwest...

Going to be some time at a guess before there can be a move

That being said - nice pricing from Paetec
PAETECT1

join:2009-06-18
Mount Laurel, NJ

Re: Kerrvile, TX 40M+ (DS3 replacement)

Thanks for the kind words. If you are able to change or want additional circuits please use me as a source. I'm honest and will ensure your circuits get installed and performance meets your required SLA's.My email is paetect1@yahoo.com
Have a great weekend.

John
iansltx

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Re: Kerrvile, TX 40M+ (DS3 replacement)

Check your PM box. I sent you a different address to check, one that will need bandwidth pretty soon and is exploring options actively. If anything competitive can be found, it'll be nice not being single-homed to TWC fiber...a few miles over at »pvco.net the guy is having a crappy time with them.
PAETECT1

join:2009-06-18
Mount Laurel, NJ

Re: Kerrvile, TX 40M+ (DS3 replacement)

Hello, I recieved the pricing back for your second location.

Try this address:
415 S Washington St
Fredericksburg, TX 78624

Price per month for full 45MB is $6867.39. $500 install...

Is this something they are looking at to install with in the next three months. Please advise

John
iansltx

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Re: Kerrvile, TX 40M+ (DS3 replacement)

Yes, however not at that price.

FYI for everyone else, please give quotes on the Washington St address. Anything lower than $110 per Mbit would be appreciated (TWC fiber is $110 or so per Mbit at that location at the commit being looked at).

Unless there is a major change in the way things are working, the circuit would need to be a bit higher-priority than the "let's see what happens" quote I requested earlier.
bandwidthkiw

join:2008-03-12
Cary, NC
Qwest is in the $5,500 range (not the magic $110/M though)

I am sure you will hear from others with better pricing but at least it gives you a number

Cheers and a happy 4th to all
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