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My first attempt at cable "lacing"

Well its not really lacing, its tieing, but Im using lacing bars! :-P

I decided to go with cable ties because its a little more practical for me, and its the only way I'll get my co-workers to use this system (good luck trying to convince them to lace properly, would be as easy as drawing blood from a stone! They wanted to use velcro straps, but I only just won with cable ties)

Cabling in my facilities is pretty static, so I think this system will work out pretty well.

Theres a few more cables to come yet from each of the switches, and also the router, and one more device to slot in between each of the switches, so it'll get a little bit more busy. Perhaps I'll post up another pic later when its all done.

None of the fibre is active yet, its just been patched and is ready and waiting (this PoP was only rolled out this afternoon, ~4 hours ago).

Enjoy!

permalink · 2009-05-22 05:08:03 · Print ·

kewlkeed Grouch Premium join:2005-02-05 Knowlton, QC	Re: My first attempt at cable "lacing" Sexy stuff! The fiber on the second switch looks a little tight, but that I think is more the camera angle. Looks like you've got a good slack on it if I'm right.
	permalink · 2009-05-22 07:08:14 ·

JohnDrenZ Premium join:2000-04-03 Phoenix, AZ	Looks good just don't like the plastic ties and I would have done the fiber slightly different though
	permalink · 2009-05-22 07:13:31 ·

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kewlkeed: Its just the camera angle. It doesnt look so bad from side on.

JohnDrenZ: I would do the fibre better, but there is very little room (physically) to do anything more creative. This was the best way I could think of doing it.

If you wouldnt mind sharing, how would you have done it?

edit: BTW, the fibre is held in place by a velcro strap. I wouldnt be so stupid to use a cable tie on that.

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seanb Premium join:2005-12-20 West Palm Beach, FL	Very nice! We do a ton of cable lacing in our datacenter and there's some easy ways to lace cables -- i'll post it in another thread showing some of our examples.... you can get QUITE complex and creating with lacing, but simple lacing is nothing close to trying to get blood out of a stone anyways -- nice JOB!! The ONLY thing missing is labels on the cords
	permalink · 2009-05-22 10:02:55 ·

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Re: My first attempt at cable "lacing"

said by seanb

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simple lacing is nothing close to trying to get blood out of a stone

You dont know some of the people I work with.

Believe me, it would never happen...

All of the ethernet cabling you see there was custom made by myself on the spot. Such are some of the people that I work with that they wanted to measure up all of the lengths required, and have someone else make them and ship them to us.

Asking them to re-lace everything after adding new cables would be like asking the devil to worship god.

Even using cable ties as I have was a touchy subject. To save having to cut all of the ties and redo them was even apparently too much work, hence them wanting to use velcro straps for everything...

If it were entirely up to me, it'd be laced. But unfortunately, Im not the only one who does cabling, and thats where the problem is.

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back of the DS3 terms
DC power
very hard to see how much cable is up there, but the entire 12
more power.... note skull and cross bones on the label.... (we have a sense of humor here)
top of the colo racks -- three bundles of 24 cat5e cables
bundle splitting off into the rack
24 pairs split into 3 sub-bundles -- for top/middle/bottom of the rack

here's our lacing w/ good 'ole wax line

enjoy!

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Splitpair Premium join:2000-07-29 Cow Towne	Re: My first attempt at cable "lacing" Looks like ADC work. Wayne
	permalink · 2009-05-23 15:51:17 ·

kewlkeed Grouch Premium join:2005-02-05 Knowlton, QC	Awesome stuff! I'd love to see it with all the ports full, but it's at least off on a VERY good foot.
	permalink · 2009-05-22 15:48:06 ·

AMD Phreak Premium join:2003-12-14	Nice work Tom.
	permalink · 2009-05-25 17:56:35 ·

jza80 join:2005-10-29 Sacramento, CA	Looks good to me. Is the router on the bottom configured as a access server? I see something that resembles a octal cable.
	permalink · 2009-05-26 07:33:06 ·

TomS_ debugger it Premium,MVM join:2002-07-19 Australia	Re: My first attempt at cable "lacing" Yep, console server. Its a 2811 terminal server bundle (theres a Cisco part number for it, something along the lines of 2811-16TS). Its basically just a factory shipped combination of a 2811 with a HWIC-16 and 2 high density octal cables. These new HD octal cables are very green.
	permalink · 2009-05-26 09:25:54 ·

cooldude9919 join:2000-05-29 Cape Girardeau, MO clubs: 1 edit	2811's are decent boxes. We have around 120 of them in our dmvpn network. Only thing is that they seem to max out at around ~20mbit - 25mbit throughput with minor services enabled, even less depending on what policy-maps (qos) we have in place and if we have cisco ios based IPS enabled. We also have around ~200 of the 3560 POE series switches, and they are pretty bullet proof.
	permalink · 2009-05-27 16:16:46 ·

NetAdmin CCNA join:2008-05-22	Looks nice. The tie wraps appear to be a little too tight in one or two spots. I'm more of a velcro straps kind of guy. -- "This is a bus. You know how big a bus is?"
	permalink · 2009-05-27 19:33:40 ·

Harddrive Premium join:2000-09-20 Norwich, CT	thank goodness you're not in Rhode Island USA using tie wraps for data. its against Rhode Island telecommunications laws to use plastic tie wraps for data wiring. you can still use tie wraps for voice lines though. go figure. -- I've come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass and i'm all outta bubblegum.
	permalink · 2009-05-27 19:39:14 ·

battleop join:2005-09-28 00000	The way you have the 7200 mounted sucks. Not how you have done it, the way Cisco has designed it. If I remember the ears only mount with two small screws that you would think can't hold a router that heavy. I've got 4 7206s that have been in the rack mounted the same way yours is mounted. After 4 years all four of them are sagging in the rear.
	permalink · 2009-05-31 10:40:39 ·

Splitpair Premium join:2000-07-29 Cow Towne ·T-Mobile US	Re: My first attempt at cable "lacing" said by battleop : After 4 years all four of them are sagging in the rear. That sounds more like an ex-wife problem than a router issue. Wayne -- If you cannot fix it with a buttset and some beanies you ain't a technician
	permalink · 2009-05-31 15:28:52 ·

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Re: My first attempt at cable "lacing"

One thing I'm curious on is with Cat6A becoming more widely used, on 24-port and 48-port switches would using Lacing be as acceptable? I know with the patch panel's tieing to station side the dress on the rack is pretty slack compared to Cat5 where you can break them into tight bundles.

Reason being with Cat6A you run into an issue with Alien Crosstalk on the higher frequencies which is when your pushing the 10Gbps range. Does this mean Velcro would be the correct way to tie down cables so that your bundles are not so tight where crosstalk would become an issue? This is assuming your coming out of a server room actually pushing that amount of bandwidth between locations.

Just curious to see if anyone as come across this or put any thought into it.

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TomS_ debugger it Premium,MVM join:2002-07-19 Australia	I suppose you could use STP Cat6 to help with that?
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Simple running stitch
Shows overall install
More running stitches
DSX panel - 3 ways

Very decent, Tom - espcially for a first attempt...

Here's a couple of pics of some string work from one of my offices; as well as 3 different ways to do a DSX panel, 1 using string, 2 with tywraps. And yes, that 3 panels in the same rack were done in different ways, DOES make me mental...

Laz

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TomS_ debugger it Premium,MVM join:2002-07-19 Australia	Re: My first attempt at cable "lacing" Looks like someone made a typo too.
	permalink · 2009-06-26 08:38:35 ·

LazMan join:2003-03-26 Angus, ON ·TekSavvy Solutions..	Re: My first attempt at cable "lacing" said by TomS_ : Looks like someone made a typo too. LOL - Nice catch. Been walking past those panels for 3 years, and never noticed!
	permalink · 2009-06-26 08:42:34 ·

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I wonder why on the upper DSX the last 4 low speeds (Lucent C-7-1,4 Fuji 5-7-1,4 are not wired?

And the middle one is only half wired?

Also strange is the DSX's are powered but it looks like the A lead spindowns are not used, noramlly a DSX would have two and a half pair per slot that looks like only two pair per slot.

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permalink · 2009-06-26 17:47:51 ·

LazMan join:2003-03-26 Angus, ON ·TekSavvy Solutions..	These DSX panels are actually used for timing distribution, so they aren't wired fully... Was just using them as an example of lacing. Our DS1 cross-connects are on an ADC frame; not traditional DSX panels. »https://www-wsp.adc.com/ecom/catalog/hie···ND101755 Laz
	permalink · 2009-06-26 19:27:37 ·

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Small update. Last bit of gear has been moved into the rack, that being the AS5350. This was actually in a rack off to the side out of picture, but has since been moved into our rack as it belongs to us and is used to provide a PRI to a customer, who we actually colocate with (go figure

).

Trust me when I say this that even though it looks like the cable ties have been done up really tight and are squeezing the cables, they really arent that tight. They are firm, but still easily rotatable. Just looks a bit funny in the picture for some reason.

All services have now been migrated off the PoP that this one replaces, so I can finally decomission that one and pull the gear out.

This PoP is doing a bit of work now. It services two DSLAMs, and a couple of customers via ethernet and other types of services. Its quickly becomming a major site for us.

Its possible that another switch will be installed to provide fibre based connections, and its looking more likely that the two switches pictured here will be merged together as the top one isnt likely to have much more plugged into it and seems a bit of a waste.

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AMD Phreak Premium join:2003-12-14	Re: My first attempt at cable "lacing" Impressive work there mrkevin. What kind of microwave do you have?
	permalink · 2009-07-27 22:18:03 ·

mrkevin Knowledge comes, but wisdom lingers. Premium join:2007-08-07 Aurora, ME clubs: ·US Cellular ·Dish Network ·magicjack.com ·Rivah.net	Re: My first attempt at cable "lacing" said by AMD Phreak : Impressive work there mrkevin. What kind of microwave do you have? Thanks! it was a lot of fun and frustration. Harris Stratex TruePoint 5000 »www.harrisstratex.com/products/tr5000/ It's been flawless. -- An army of sheep led by a lion, will always defeat an army of lions led by a sheep.
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TomS_ debugger it Premium,MVM join:2002-07-19 Australia	Re: My first attempt at cable "lacing" said by mrkevin : Harris Stratex TruePoint 5000 Cool, I was trying to work out what that was. Is it just me or is that ODU absolutely massive? said by houkouonchi : This is about as pretty as cable management gets where I work: Cool fisheye effect.
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