basenji
join:2006-11-02
Waconia, MN
| reply to wth
Re: Channel Lineup Changes & Additions
They scramble the digital because traps can't take out all the family cable digital. HSD only customers could have the HSD trap on and still hook a QAM tv and get most of the channels. As I have said before, it is a control tool.
Unless things change with where the channels are located or the traps we have, family will always be scrambled. This is only my opinion, not a company policy or any inside knowledge, so take it for what it is worth. |
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Cableman32
join:2007-10-05
Florida, NY
| reply to wth
Ok, so I guess i wasn't clear that only the Family SD channels will be unencrypted. The family cable SD digital will be moved into the trap area, but there currently isn't the bandwidth available to also move the family cable HD channels into the trapped area.... that is until more analog is removed. |
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k9iua6
join:2004-05-23
Dubuque, IA
| reply to wth
Let me restate the part "& HD channels" to read "Family cable HD channels", as there's really no reason to scramble the "family cable" digital channels, inculding the family cable HD channels. Ask your self this question: Mediacom didn't scramble the analog family cable channels, so why scramble the digital family cable channels?
Well, maybe they want to make more money with the value-added service of providing HD? Or maybe technically they can't do it yet due to lack of bandwidth in the clear (non-trapped) spectrum?
I'm sure it costs money for Mediacom to receive both the HD and SD versions of programming. Or money to convert the HD signal to the SD version for Family cable. Mediacom is entitled to get that paid for by subscribers.
Also, you mustn't forget that we are also dealing with franchise agreements with communities about what goes into program tiers. The FCC only dictates what must happen with the basic tier, and the "must carry" declaration by a local broadcaster only applies, IIRC, to the primary "channel". As the digital conversion continues, I expect to see franchise agreements, as they get renegotiated, to try to include more HD and clearQAM as they can. That will all take time, and Mediacom will stage it in a way that hopefully doesn't have them loose customers along the way or quality of service. |
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nicheplayer
join:2008-02-15
Iowa City, IA
| reply to wth
I guess my bottom line is, I'll be damned if I'm going to rent a box from MC when I have an HDTV sitting here. Knowing MC, I'll just have to live with the fact that I'm paying for stuff they're not letting me see. TV rots your brain, anyway.  |
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k9iua6
join:2004-05-23
Dubuque, IA
| said by nicheplayer  :I guess my bottom line is, I'll be damned if I'm going to rent a box from MC when I have an HDTV sitting here. Knowing MC, I'll just have to live with the fact that I'm paying for stuff they're not letting me see. TV rots your brain, anyway. Well, as one who doesn't have an HDTV yet, I would probably feel the same way you do. At least with respect to the local broadcast stations. Lacking the money or the clear need to buy an HDTV yet, I probably won't buy one until I know what shakes out with HD, the different programming tiers, and the progressive shift to digital television.
In the meantime, as a Family-only subscriber with only 4:3 analog televisions, my bigger beef and anxiety with both broadcasters and Mediacom is with letterbox vs. center-cut cropping more than I am with Mediacom about what programming is in the Family tier and whether it is clearQAM. (My preference is letterbox for everything, as it drives me ballistic to see text cut off by center-cut cropping, but that is the subject for a different thread.) But I understand your concern, and am watching this progression very closely. |
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IowaStudent
Premium
join:2008-08-21
Grinnell, IA | reply to basenji
Before I got broadcast basic (cause I wanted everything to go through the house) I hooked up a TV and I recieved the 60's 70's on analog but now that I have a proper setup I only get the 70's channels. Why? |
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k9iua6
join:2004-05-23
Dubuque, IA
| As was mentioned in another discussion thread, the trap that Mediacom puts on your line for basic broadcast only, which is a low-pass filter, does not entirely trap effectively the frequencies above the cutoff. The effectiveness drops for a range of frequencies that correspond to that range of channels, with the signal strength getting through sufficient for some reception. |
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clone73
join:2009-02-02
Iowa City, IA | reply to wth
I just spoke with customer service again and the upgrade in Iowa City is not done. I guess the July 7th date wasn't a deadline like the letter stated. I'm sure the due date on my bill would not be treated with the same casual attitude. |
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hawkeye_wx
join:2009-01-07
Cedar Rapids, IA | reply to wth
Fox News HD and Lifetime HD have just been added to Cedar Rapids' Mediacom service. No Big Ten, Discovery, TLC, or Animal Planet, yet. |
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idjohnston
join:2004-02-09
Iowa City, IA
| reply to wth
This is the digital lineup tuned directly from a digital ready television on Mediacom in Iowa City, IA. (As of 7-07-2009)
1-1 CSPAN
51-1 HALLMARK
51-3 LMN
51-5 ABC FAM
51-7 COMEDY CENTRAL
51-11 DISCOVERY
51-13 FOX NEWS
51-15 TCM
51-19 TLC
51-21 WE TV
51-25 BIG TEN
52-1 FX
52-5 E!
52-7 VERSUS
52-9 SPEED
52-11 UNIVISION
52-13 BET
52-15 BRAVO
52-17 CNBC
52-19 ANIMAL PLANET
52-21 USA
52-23 TRAVEL
53-1 CNN
53-3 HEADLINE NEWS
53-5 CARTOON NETWORK
53-7 TBS
53-9 TNT
53-11 SPIKE
53-13 TV LAND
53-15 CMT
53-17 MTV
53-19 NICK
53-21 MSNBC
53-23 tru TV
54-1 FOOD
54-3 HGTV
54-7 DISNEY
54-11 A&E
54-13 HISTORY
54-15 VH1
54-17 LIFETIME
54-21 SCI-FI (SY FY?)
54-23 AMC
55-5 ESPN
55-13 ESPN2
55-15 COMCAST SPORTS
55-19 WEATHER
55-27 NAT GEO
56-1 FIT TV
56-5 SOAP
56-9 OXYGEN
82-1 QVC
82-3 CSPAN
82-5 CHRISTIAN PROGRAMMING
82-7 WWF?
82-9 SHOP NBC
82-11 CHRISTIAN PROGRAMMING
82-13 CSPAN3
82-15 CHRISTIAN PROGRAMMING
82-17 CHRISTIAN PROGRAMMING
82-19 CHRISTIAN PROGRAMMING
82-21 CSPAN2
82-23 HSN
89-4 IPTV
99-4 KFXA (FOX) SD
99-6 KCRG (ABC) SD
99-8 CW
99-9
99-10 KGAN (CBS) SD
99-12 KWWL (NBC) SD
99-14 KWWF
99-16 CHRISTIAN PROGRAMMING
99-18 IPTV
99-20
114-1 KWWL (NBC) HD
114-2 THIS
114-3 RTV
114-6 KGAN (CBS) HD
115-2 KCRG (ABC) HD
115-4 KFXA (FOX) HD
115-6 KCRG-2
119-2 ION
There are more, but this is the gist of it. Don't come crying to me because I left out your favorite city council meeting channel... I had to write this by hand because Mediacom doesn't publish this anywhere. |
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Bierboy
join:2008-08-07
East Moline, IL
 ·Mediacom
| reply to wth
said by wth :said by wth :said by Cableman32 :Yes, next month they will begin putting all of the family cable tier in the clear. Reading this would indicate to me that all the family cable channels & HD channels will be "clear" and viewable with a HDTV with qam tuner, and no box. Let me restate the part "& HD channels" to read "Family cable HD channels", as there's really no reason to scramble the "family cable" digital channels, inculding the family cable HD channels. Ask your self this question: Mediacom didn't scramble the analog family cable channels, so why scramble the digital family cable channels? Umm...because they can? And they want to make money off them? |
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idjohnston
join:2004-02-09
Iowa City, IA
| reply to wth
Mediacom as of July 7th, 2009 in Iowa City IA
1-1 CSPAN
51-1 HALLMARK
51-3 LMN
51-5 ABC FAM
51-7 COMEDY CENTRAL
51-11 DISCOVERY
51-13 FOX NEWS
51-15 TCM
51-19 TLC
51-21 WE TV
51-25 BIG TEN
52-1 FX
52-5 E!
52-7 VERSUS
52-9 SPEED
52-11 UNIVISION
52-13 BET
52-15 BRAVO
52-17 CNBC
52-19 ANIMAL PLANET
52-21 USA
52-23 TRAVEL
53-1 CNN
53-3 HEADLINE NEWS
53-5 CARTOON NETWORK
53-7 TBS
53-9 TNT
53-11 SPIKE
53-13 TV LAND
53-15 CMT
53-17 MTV
53-19 NICK
53-21 MSNBC
53-23 tru TV
54-1 FOOD
54-3 HGTV
54-7 DISNEY
54-11 A&E
54-13 HISTORY
54-15 VH1
54-17 LIFETIME
54-21 SCI-FI (SY FY?)
54-23 AMC
55-5 ESPN
55-13 ESPN2
55-15 COMCAST SPORTS
55-19 WEATHER
55-27 NAT GEO
56-1 FIT TV
56-5 SOAP
56-9 OXYGEN
82-1 QVC
82-3 CSPAN
82-5 CHRISTIAN PROGRAMMING
82-7 WWF?
82-9 SHOP NBC
82-11 CHRISTIAN PROGRAMMING
82-13 CSPAN3
82-15 CHRISTIAN PROGRAMMING
82-17 CHRISTIAN PROGRAMMING
82-19 CHRISTIAN PROGRAMMING
82-21 CSPAN2
82-23 HSN
89-4 IPTV
99-4 KFXA (FOX) SD
99-6 KCRG (ABC) SD
99-8 CW
99-9
99-10 KGAN (CBS) SD
99-12 KWWL (NBC) SD
99-14 KWWF
99-16 CHRISTIAN PROGRAMMING
99-18 IPTV
99-20
114-1 KWWL (NBC) HD
114-2 THIS
114-3 RTV
114-6 KGAN (CBS) HD
115-2 KCRG (ABC) HD
115-4 KFXA (FOX) HD
115-6 KCRG-2
119-2 ION |
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Dr X
@bellsouth.net | reply to wth
so which of these are clearqam? |
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Bierboy
join:2008-08-07
East Moline, IL | said by Dr X :
so which of these are clearqam?
As has been stated MANY times in this thread....only the local HDs. |
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Dr X
@bellsouth.net | reply to wth
wrong... research before posting... I know for a fact that i get about 20 clearqam channels under the old lineup...I am out of state right now or i would answer my own question. |
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Dr X
@bellsouth.net
1 edit | reply to wth
Found the answer myself:
»www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/li···p_404815
lists all the clearqam avail for iowa city. |
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wth
Premium
join:2002-02-20
Iowa City, IA
·Mediacom
| reply to Bierboy
said by Bierboy :Umm...because they can? And they want to make money off them? Mediacom can also make money by having the channels in clear qam, as it would be a selling point vs dish & direct. With sat, I think you need some kind of box for each tv. With clear qam you would only need a hdtv w/qam tuner, you wouldn't need any boxes. |
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hawkeye_wx
join:2009-01-07
Cedar Rapids, IA | reply to wth
BigTen HD
Discovery HD
TLC HD
Animal Planet HD
All just added to Mediacom in Cedar Rapids |
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wth
Premium
join:2002-02-20
Iowa City, IA | reply to wth
All 8 new HD's are "on" in Iowa City except BTN-HD says "available shortly" |
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cool318
@mchsi.com | reply to hawkeye_wx
im glad you guys get BTNHD, seems like mediacom doesn't care about big ten fans in indiana. |
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