 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
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kudos:12 | Unbelievable It really is unbelievable that in this day and age that a populace can allow itself to be controlled in such a manner. |
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 elios
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Springfield, MO | its becouse its still 1950 there and becouse the indoctrination starts at an early age
they just dont know any different and government does a damn good job keeping out news from the rest of the world |
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Their alternative would be death. This seems to be the way Venezuala is going too. It's not so hard to believe...don't you remember the Soviet Union?
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said by Matt:It really is unbelievable that in this day and age that a populace can allow itself to be controlled in such a manner. Part of it is fear, the other part is pride.
When you control the flow of information to the whole country and lock it completely down, the people don't know any better. |
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said by S_engineer:This seems to be the way Venezuala is going too. Some individuals in our country who praise Chavez would have you believe differently.
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said by Matt:It really is unbelievable that in this day and age that a populace can allow itself to be controlled in such a manner. I find that amazing also. I'm not sure how the status quo sticks around.
My fiancee is Korean - she was born here, but her parents were born in Korea (South) and much of their family remains over there. When my fiancee's cousin visited two years ago, I asked him about what S. Koreans thought about their neighbor, and perhaps how our perceptions thousands of miles away are different from people who live much closer.
In speaking with him, the conversation was short and pointed, not so much because his english was poor (it wasn't - he spoke just about as good as any English-speaking American), but because it obviously made him a little uncomfortable to talk about N. Korea. I think being a few hundred miles away from The Dear Lunatic, that their perceptions of danger are different than ours.
With regard to the Internet in N. Korea--that price tag is a deal-breaker for almost every N. Korean citizen. The rest of the people are figuring out how to put food on the table.
It's a sad situation over there, and frankly, the people need more than censored wireless Internet.
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MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
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kudos:12 | said by Jeffrey:said by Matt:It really is unbelievable that in this day and age that a populace can allow itself to be controlled in such a manner. I find that amazing also. I'm not sure how the status quo sticks around. I guess that growing up here with relatively unlimited access to information, we just take it for granted. What I don't understand is why there isn't a revolt ... there has to be an underground movement or at least a group of people who know the truth? |
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| said by Matt:I guess that growing up here with relatively unlimited access to information, we just take it for granted. What I don't understand is why there isn't a revolt ... there has to be an underground movement or at least a group of people who know the truth? From what I've read, it's just such a tightly-controlled regime that people are too scared to do anything. I just can't figure out how the Government has been able to do this 100% successfully for years, now. As the ability to travel and spread information across the world only keeps increasing as time goes on, it's more and more amazing that the exodus or revolt within N. Korea isn't directly proportional to that thought.
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elios
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Springfield, MO | get'em young kids are pulled in to it from day one
look around the net abit youll find it
they have them sing songs about there "Great" Leader as soon as they can talk
its like a cult |
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said by Jeffrey:From what I've read, it's just such a tightly-controlled regime that people are too scared to do anything. I just can't figure out how the Government has been able to do this 100% successfully for years, now. As the ability to travel and spread information across the world only keeps increasing as time goes on, it's more and more amazing that the exodus or revolt within N. Korea isn't directly proportional to that thought. It has become a "cult of personality." Kids are taught at a very young age how bad the outside world is and that they need to listen and obey the "Dear Leader" at all costs. Kids are taught from a very young age that the outside world is out to get them and only their Dear Leader can protect them. It is easy to mold young minds.
ANY dissent, whether real or perceived, is dealt with in such a way that would make Stalin blush. |
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Clementon, NJ | reply to Jeffrey
said by Jeffrey:said by Matt:I guess that growing up here with relatively unlimited access to information, we just take it for granted. What I don't understand is why there isn't a revolt ... there has to be an underground movement or at least a group of people who know the truth? From what I've read, it's just such a tightly-controlled regime that people are too scared to do anything. I just can't figure out how the Government has been able to do this 100% successfully for years, now. As the ability to travel and spread information across the world only keeps increasing as time goes on, it's more and more amazing that the exodus or revolt within N. Korea isn't directly proportional to that thought. I saw a special on North Korea once, there was a guy who was sneaking in and out of the country with a video camera, risking his life to show the world what its really like there. Also it had some chilling interviews of a few who managed to get out. They also say if you step out of line they will not only kill you but generations of your family as well. Plus they are probably all so weak from not getting enough food so they don't stand a chance against the army.
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said by Time:said by S_engineer:This seems to be the way Venezuala is going too. Some individuals in our country who praise Chavez would have you believe differently. I have been to Venezuela many times and the media is not really suppressed there.
Rather, Chavez is viewed as a hero of the poor and working class, which is why he continues to reign. |
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said by Jeffrey:From what I've read, it's just such a tightly-controlled regime that people are too scared to do anything. Scared and proud. It is very much like the old soviet union. |
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From what I know, information is tightly controlled to a degree that makes China look like a free society. In addition, the populace is kept dirt poor. They are literally spending so much time trying to feed their families that they have no time or energy to even think about revolting. And anyone who somehow gets up the courage to question "Dear Leader" is quickly silenced before his questions lead to revolt. In other words, the North Korean regime is very, very good at maintaining power.
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said by Matt:It really is unbelievable that in this day and age that a populace can allow itself to be controlled in such a manner. if they had a problem they would have killed him already.
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 en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to elios
Exactly.
When you're raised from a very young age with a specific belief, and no access to anything else - you will believe that it is the truth. All cults (and even most basic ways of living) to a certain degree employ this:
- N. Korea (lack of info - locked down state, dictatorship)
- Cuba
- Cults (David Koresh anyone)
- Religion, or more specific 'religious states' where religion = law
- Political groups (Decocrats/Repulicans here in the US) attempt to recruit young and have you drink their Kool-Aid
All are attempts at controlling you. Media is one of the largest that 'we' in are influenced by. Whether you believe it or not - TV/Radio is a HUGE influence in the US, especially when TVs have become baby sitters in many lifestyles.
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said by uid1307457:if they had a problem, he would have killed (or imprisoned for "re-education") them already. Fixed. |
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And the US is not as far behind these other Statist countries either, with it's rush toward Statism in the past decade. |
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said by fifty nine:said by Time:said by S_engineer:This seems to be the way Venezuala is going too. Some individuals in our country who praise Chavez would have you believe differently. I have been to Venezuela many times and the media is not really suppressed there. Rather, Chavez is viewed as a hero of the poor and working class, which is why he continues to reign. The kind of opposition that the private media do against Chavez is something that the US Corporate media would never even dream about doing to the US Government. |
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One of the scariest places I have ever been to was on the border of North Korea and South Korea at Panmunjom(truce village).
Even though I was with in the Army I had to sign a waiver that basically stated if anything happend we(US gov. or South Korea) were not responcible if you die, and do not make any gestures to any North Korean soldiers or dont point to North Korea and then it said have a nice day.
I spent a year there and one of the biggest jokes being there was that the US Military and S. Korean military would just be a speed bump to the N. Korean military. We were so out numbered, it would not even matter if we had the training and weapons, there are just to many of them(n. Korean) |
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