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st7860

join:2004-05-13
San Francisco, CA

reply to insomx
Re: Bell is growing way too large.

what is almost never mentioned is that Teksavvy basically buys wholesale ADSL from Bell and adds on their own stuff (some backhaul, email/web service, authentication, etc).

for almost 10 years, any company in Canada has the right to rent bare copper lines from the ILEC(bell, telus, etc) and colocate their own dslams into central offices and thus avoid any throtting. but most companies choose to instead buy wholesale adsl from the ILEC, which is obviously subject to throttling.

(obviously this doesn't apply to VRADs/remotes and so on)


mlerner
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Nepean, ON
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said by st7860 See Profile :

(obviously this doesn't apply to VRADs/remotes and so on)
That's the problem, more than half of customers can only get a connection through a remote! Putting in DSLAMs in CO's is NOT going to provide a complete solution. Further, now Bell is trying to get rid of co-location in the CO!


adisor19

join:2004-10-11
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reply to st7860
said by st7860 See Profile :

what is almost never mentioned is that Teksavvy basically buys wholesale ADSL from Bell and adds on their own stuff (some backhaul, email/web service, authentication, etc).

for almost 10 years, any company in Canada has the right to rent bare copper lines from the ILEC(bell, telus, etc) and colocate their own dslams into central offices and thus avoid any throtting. but most companies choose to instead buy wholesale adsl from the ILEC, which is obviously subject to throttling.

(obviously this doesn't apply to VRADs/remotes and so on)
What is almost never mentioned as well is that Bell built its network, thus the company itself with huge subsidies from the Canadian government ! And where did the govermnet get the money from ? FROM US, THE CONSUMERS. So, if you wonder why the samall ISPs didn't build their own network from scratch, it's because they didn't get any subsidies from the government to do so and so obviously they went with the wholesale forced offer from Bell.

Adi


derekm

join:2008-02-26
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reply to st7860
said by st7860 See Profile :

(obviously this doesn't apply to VRADs/remotes and so on)
So most of the DSL infrastructure?

MIghtyCicero

join:2008-04-19

reply to adisor19
said by adisor19 See Profile :

FROM US, THE CONSUMERS.
We are NOT consumers. We are CITIZENS.

People have to stop reducing themselves to autonomous profit-generating-waste-producing drones.


adisor19

join:2004-10-11
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said by MIghtyCicero See Profile :

said by adisor19 See Profile :

FROM US, THE CONSUMERS.
We are NOT consumers. We are CITIZENS.

People have to stop reducing themselves to autonomous profit-generating-waste-producing drones.
Ya well there is a very VERY fine line between the two terms..

Adi
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