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Re: OECD still using a flawed counting method
I would say that plain geography counts too. Most countries in europe and SE Asia, where penetration is the highest, are a fraction of the geographical size of the USA.
If I ran a country the size of New Jersey, obviously its much easier to wire that square mileage with fiber, as opposed to the whole USA. |
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| said by baineschile  :I would say that plain geography counts too. Most countries in europe and SE Asia, where penetration is the highest, are a fraction of the geographical size of the USA. If I ran a country the size of New Jersey, obviously its much easier to wire that square mileage with fiber, as opposed to the whole USA. True, it is easier to wire a small country as opposed to a big one. |
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said by baineschile :I would say that plain geography counts too. Most countries in europe and SE Asia, where penetration is the highest, are a fraction of the geographical size of the USA. If I ran a country the size of New Jersey, obviously its much easier to wire that square mileage with fiber, as opposed to the whole USA. They have a few charts that show the correlation of density and broadband penetration.
»www.oecd.org/dataoecd/21/60/39574903.xls
»www.oecd.org/dataoecd/21/62/39574923.xls
»www.oecd.org/dataoecd/22/0/39574933.xls
The 3rd chart probably gives the fairest correlation of density vs penetration.
Those below the line are doing worse than average with Mexico being especially bad.
And those above the line are doing better than average with the Netherlands doing especially well.
Iceland for example is very high in the rankings. But they should be as the country with the densest population. More than 50% of the population live on 1.4% of the land.
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| That's statistics for you... you can always put some form of spin on it to make it look good or bad.
Countries like US/Australia/Canada are large in landmass, relatively low in population density, with the exception of urban centers. The US is a little more even spread than most, with the exception of the western states. |
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said by baineschile :I would say that plain geography counts too. Most countries in europe and SE Asia, where penetration is the highest, are a fraction of the geographical size of the USA. If I ran a country the size of New Jersey, obviously its much easier to wire that square mileage with fiber, as opposed to the whole USA. What does that have to do with anything? That would only matter is ONE company was in charge of building out the entire US and had plans on running lines over hundreds of miles of nothing. None of which is the case.
Japan is the size of Montana yet is more wired than Montana. So going by your logic why isn't Montana more wired? If Japan can do it Montana can do it, they are the same size.
Oh wait I know you'll say Montana has very few people per square mile. Ok well then how come Rhode Island which is not only many times smaller than Japan and has TWICE the population per square mile much less wired than Japan?
60% of the population of the US lives in the top 75 metro areas. No reason why a metro area shouldn't be up date when it comes to being connected to the internet. Even the largest metro areas are smaller than most of the smaller European countries and population density isn't an issue either.
I'm so tired of people making excuses. These people are the same people that continually make excuses as to why their child is a C+ student instead of doing something about it. |
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00000 | How many people live in Montana and how many live in Japan? Then think about the ROI on wiring Montana vs. Japan. |
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Excellent point, and I've been saying that since they started measuring these things!
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said by BF69 :said by baineschile :I would say that plain geography counts too. Most countries in europe and SE Asia, where penetration is the highest, are a fraction of the geographical size of the USA. If I ran a country the size of New Jersey, obviously its much easier to wire that square mileage with fiber, as opposed to the whole USA. I'm so tired of people making excuses. These people are the same people that continually make excuses as to why their child is a C+ student instead of doing something about it. Who cares what your sick of???
This is not a forum about you.....
And why you send everyone else a sick IM talking about your sick preferences...
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said by me1212 :said by baineschile :I would say that plain geography counts too. Most countries in europe and SE Asia, where penetration is the highest, are a fraction of the geographical size of the USA. If I ran a country the size of New Jersey, obviously its much easier to wire that square mileage with fiber, as opposed to the whole USA. True, it is easier to wire a small country as opposed to a big one. Excuse, Excuse, Excuse, always some excuse as to why they can't offer decent next gen internet service in America.
NY, Chicago and LA should have world class networks that compete with the rest of the world since they are dense.
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