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Rayca
join:2009-05-23
Concord, CA
| Connectivity Issues--Downloading/Internet Radio I'm not able to connect to my internet table radio, while downloading large files on my desktop. Once the download is finished, it works fine. I'm told my router could need prioritizing. My radio's configurations also stated which ports are needed for minimum access. Like I said, everything is fine afte the download. I have no idea how to access and change. Any help would be greatly appreciated. | |
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RockyBB
Premium
join:2005-01-31
Longmont, CO
| Re: Connectivity Issues--Downloading/Internet Radio you're stuck. any modifications you make on the router impact only uploading from you. your router is powerless to affect incoming packets to you -- which are being fought over by the download and the concurrent audio stream. only hope is if whoever you're downloading from can send at a slower speed. | |
| | B
Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28
| Re: Connectivity Issues--Downloading/Internet Radio said by RockyBB  :you're stuck. any modifications you make on the router impact only uploading from you. your router is powerless to affect incoming packets to you -- which are being fought over by the download and the concurrent audio stream. only hope is if whoever you're downloading from can send at a slower speed. Well yes and no; mostly no. 
The router, if it has QoS, does have control over both the upload and download streams it handles. So setting priorities there should clear up all the Internet radio issues.
If the router doesn't have QoS, then perhaps you could tweak your "downloading" application to go a little more gently. If it's actually a P2P application like BitTorrent, then I strongly suggest you limit its upstream to a 1/4 or less of your available upstream bandwidth. That really helped me with VoIP, and my old router doesn't have QoS.
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RockyBB
Premium
join:2005-01-31
Longmont, CO
| Re: Connectivity Issues--Downloading/Internet Radio said by B :The router, if it has QoS, does have control over both the upload and download streams it handles. So setting priorities there should clear up all the Internet radio issues. Your explanation is inconsistent with my knowledge of how these things work, and posts by others, including at »Qwest QoS with GT701 Router + VOIP Since the OP's issue is with listening to streaming audio while downloading, it seems that routers with QoS would be ineffective at any cure as all the packets are incoming. | |
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Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28
| Re: Connectivity Issues--Downloading/Internet Radio But note two things:
The OP's "Internet table radio" is a physically separate device with a separate internal IP address and as such, the router does know which packets are headed for it (since the radio, presumably, initiates the outbound connections and causes an appropriate NAT table entry).
Second, no download is strictly a one-way operation; at the very least, ACK packets are being passed upstream, and as always, it's the upstream limits that tends to screw up consumer applications.
So decent QoS provisions at the router should help... I am more than willing to be corrected though. 
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| Rayca
join:2009-05-23
Concord, CA
| Well yes and no; mostly no.
The router, if it has QoS, does have control over both the upload and download streams it handles. So setting priorities there should clear up all the Internet radio issues.
If the router doesn't have QoS, then perhaps you could tweak your "downloading" application to go a little more gently. If it's actually a P2P application like BitTorrent, then I strongly suggest you limit its upstream to a 1/4 or less of your available upstream bandwidth. That really helped me with VoIP, and my old router doesn't have QoS.
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B, this is precisely (or practically) what I have been told and that's why I wanted a back-up opinion. Having said that, I am a router for dummies type. How do I find out if my router has Qos, which I have been reading about on this site and QoS-Tomato site. I have no idea how to get to the nitty gritty and change this stuff. I've been told at my internet radio forum that the VoIP, streaming services should have high priority and FTP traffic a lower priority. Again, router for dummies here. I have an AT&T 2wire, if that helps decipher whether QoS or P2P. Any ideas where I can go to really get walked through this? AT&T are dummer than me. ---Thanks to both for your replies. | |
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Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28
| Re: Connectivity Issues--Downloading/Internet Radio From what I can see the 2Wires don't do QoS, so you're probably out of luck, unless you replace it (or, conceivably, front-end it with a router that does).
I still suggest rate limiting your file transfers. If it's in fact FTP that you're using, it looks like the FileZilla FTP client can do it...
»filezilla.sourceforge.net/docume···imit.htm
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| | | Rayca
join:2009-05-23
Concord, CA | Re: Connectivity Issues--Downloading/Internet Radio Thanks B | |
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