Topic 'Re: Unbelievable' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22427437 en Sat, 11 Feb 2012 10:51:31 EDT Sat, 11 Feb 2012 10:51:31 EDT Re: Unbelievable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22444328 said by SilentMan:

It only takes a few ounces of IQ to see how biased this CNN trash is. Don't fall for corporate media disinformation.

»www.venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/4462
I think you mean a few ounces of paranoid delusion. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22444328 Tue, 26 May 2009 08:21:48 EDT Re: Unbelievable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22443621
»www.venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/4462]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22443621 Tue, 26 May 2009 00:38:32 EDT Re: Unbelievable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22435537 said by Eat MeI have been to Venezuela many times and the media is not really suppressed there.
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Newsflash: yes it is!

»www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/···dex.html]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22435537 Sun, 24 May 2009 00:59:01 EDT Re: Unbelievable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22432843 said by disconnected :

And the US is not as far behind these other Statist countries either, with it's rush toward Statism in the past decade.
We're not going to be far behind North Korea if the retards in Congress keep spending at this rate.
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said by Matt:

It really is unbelievable that in this day and age that a populace can allow itself to be controlled in such a manner.
It is hard for YOU to imagine. Perhaps you have never been to North Korea? Maybe you don't realize that that population has been under the hand of communism since 1945? Maybe you don't understand that before communism, they were under absolute Japanese rule since the SinoRussian war back around 1910? Maybe you just don't know what you are asserting...

Koreans are some of the most honorable people on this planet. Being a Korean linguist, I can honestly tell you that from experience. The reason that you don't understand what they have been through is that you have not researched it.

The Korean War was the first war fought by the U.N.... It called, "The Forgotten War", by veterans because it was simply forgotten. People think that the Viet-Nam vets were short changed. Well they were but the Korean war vets were not short changed, they were forgotten. Hence the name.

You just don't really know much about Korea, Matt.
I know what I have been taught in college, which is plenty. And I'm assuming you've been to North Korea as most American obviously are very welcome there correct?

As to your second point, I'm not sure why you think I'm slighting Koreans. Some of my best friends (and neighbors) are Koreans and I had a Korean roommate for many years -- and I love Samsung.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22432785 Sat, 23 May 2009 10:50:08 EDT Re: Unbelievable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22432176 said by wifi4milez:

said by Time:

said by S_engineer:

This seems to be the way Venezuala is going too.
Some individuals in our country who praise Chavez would have you believe differently.
Give Obama a break man! ;)
Thanks for that propaganda, the RNC thanks you.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22432176 Sat, 23 May 2009 03:44:30 EDT Re: Unbelievable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22431721 said by Matt:

It really is unbelievable that in this day and age that a populace can allow itself to be controlled in such a manner.
It is hard for YOU to imagine. Perhaps you have never been to North Korea? Maybe you don't realize that that population has been under the hand of communism since 1945? Maybe you don't understand that before communism, they were under absolute Japanese rule since the SinoRussian war back around 1910? Maybe you just don't know what you are asserting...

Koreans are some of the most honorable people on this planet. Being a Korean linguist, I can honestly tell you that from experience. The reason that you don't understand what they have been through is that you have not researched it.

The Korean War was the first war fought by the U.N.... It called, "The Forgotten War", by veterans because it was simply forgotten. People think that the Viet-Nam vets were short changed. Well they were but the Korean war vets were not short changed, they were forgotten. Hence the name.

You just don't really know much about Korea, Matt.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22431721 Fri, 22 May 2009 23:38:26 EDT Re: Unbelievable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22430140 said by Time:

said by S_engineer:

This seems to be the way Venezuala is going too.
Some individuals in our country who praise Chavez would have you believe differently.
Give Obama a break man! ;)
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When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.
-Ronald Reagan-
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Even though I was with in the Army I had to sign a waiver that basically stated if anything happend we(US gov. or South Korea) were not responcible if you die, and do not make any gestures to any North Korean soldiers or dont point to North Korea and then it said have a nice day.

I spent a year there and one of the biggest jokes being there was that the US Military and S. Korean military would just be a speed bump to the N. Korean military. We were so out numbered, it would not even matter if we had the training and weapons, there are just to many of them(n. Korean)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22429754 Fri, 22 May 2009 16:14:13 EDT Re: Unbelievable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22429614 said by fifty nine:

said by Time:

said by S_engineer:

This seems to be the way Venezuala is going too.
Some individuals in our country who praise Chavez would have you believe differently.
I have been to Venezuela many times and the media is not really suppressed there.

Rather, Chavez is viewed as a hero of the poor and working class, which is why he continues to reign.
The kind of opposition that the private media do against Chavez is something that the US Corporate media would never even dream about doing to the US Government.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22429614 Fri, 22 May 2009 15:49:54 EDT Re: Unbelievable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22428536 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22428536 Fri, 22 May 2009 15:02:48 EDT Re: Unbelievable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22428684 said by uid1307457:

if they had a problem, he would have killed (or imprisoned for "re-education") them already.Fixed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22428684 Fri, 22 May 2009 13:16:06 EDT Re: Unbelievable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22428425 When you're raised from a very young age with a specific belief, and no access to anything else - you will believe that it is the truth. All cults (and even most basic ways of living) to a certain degree employ this:

- N. Korea (lack of info - locked down state, dictatorship)
- Cuba
- Cults (David Koresh anyone)
- Religion, or more specific 'religious states' where religion = law
- Political groups (Decocrats/Repulicans here in the US) attempt to recruit young and have you drink their Kool-Aid

All are attempts at controlling you. Media is one of the largest that 'we' in are influenced by. Whether you believe it or not - TV/Radio is a HUGE influence in the US, especially when TVs have become baby sitters in many lifestyles.
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It really is unbelievable that in this day and age that a populace can allow itself to be controlled in such a manner.
if they had a problem they would have killed him already.
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-Jason Levine
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From what I've read, it's just such a tightly-controlled regime that people are too scared to do anything.
Scared and proud. It is very much like the old soviet union. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22427971 Fri, 22 May 2009 11:37:45 EDT Re: Unbelievable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22427952 said by Time:

said by S_engineer:

This seems to be the way Venezuala is going too.
Some individuals in our country who praise Chavez would have you believe differently.
I have been to Venezuela many times and the media is not really suppressed there.

Rather, Chavez is viewed as a hero of the poor and working class, which is why he continues to reign. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22427952 Fri, 22 May 2009 11:35:38 EDT Re: Unbelievable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22427897 said by Jeffrey:

said by Matt:


I guess that growing up here with relatively unlimited access to information, we just take it for granted. What I don't understand is why there isn't a revolt ... there has to be an underground movement or at least a group of people who know the truth?
From what I've read, it's just such a tightly-controlled regime that people are too scared to do anything. I just can't figure out how the Government has been able to do this 100% successfully for years, now. As the ability to travel and spread information across the world only keeps increasing as time goes on, it's more and more amazing that the exodus or revolt within N. Korea isn't directly proportional to that thought.
I saw a special on North Korea once, there was a guy who was sneaking in and out of the country with a video camera, risking his life to show the world what its really like there. Also it had some chilling interviews of a few who managed to get out. They also say if you step out of line they will not only kill you but generations of your family as well. Plus they are probably all so weak from not getting enough food so they don't stand a chance against the army.
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From what I've read, it's just such a tightly-controlled regime that people are too scared to do anything. I just can't figure out how the Government has been able to do this 100% successfully for years, now. As the ability to travel and spread information across the world only keeps increasing as time goes on, it's more and more amazing that the exodus or revolt within N. Korea isn't directly proportional to that thought.
It has become a "cult of personality." Kids are taught at a very young age how bad the outside world is and that they need to listen and obey the "Dear Leader" at all costs. Kids are taught from a very young age that the outside world is out to get them and only their Dear Leader can protect them. It is easy to mold young minds.

ANY dissent, whether real or perceived, is dealt with in such a way that would make Stalin blush. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22427896 Fri, 22 May 2009 11:26:37 EDT Re: Unbelievable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22427863 look around the net abit youll find it
they have them sing songs about there "Great" Leader as soon as they can talk

its like a cult ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22427863 Fri, 22 May 2009 11:22:14 EDT Re: Unbelievable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22427654 said by Matt:


I guess that growing up here with relatively unlimited access to information, we just take it for granted. What I don't understand is why there isn't a revolt ... there has to be an underground movement or at least a group of people who know the truth?
From what I've read, it's just such a tightly-controlled regime that people are too scared to do anything. I just can't figure out how the Government has been able to do this 100% successfully for years, now. As the ability to travel and spread information across the world only keeps increasing as time goes on, it's more and more amazing that the exodus or revolt within N. Korea isn't directly proportional to that thought.
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"Honesty may be the best policy, but it's important to remember that apparently, by elimination, dishonesty is the second-best policy." - George Carlin

[my ramblings]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22427654 Fri, 22 May 2009 10:52:22 EDT Re: Unbelievable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22427642 said by Jeffrey:

said by Matt:

It really is unbelievable that in this day and age that a populace can allow itself to be controlled in such a manner.
I find that amazing also. I'm not sure how the status quo sticks around.I guess that growing up here with relatively unlimited access to information, we just take it for granted. What I don't understand is why there isn't a revolt ... there has to be an underground movement or at least a group of people who know the truth?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22427642 Fri, 22 May 2009 10:49:43 EDT Re: Unbelievable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22427627 said by Matt:

It really is unbelievable that in this day and age that a populace can allow itself to be controlled in such a manner.
I find that amazing also. I'm not sure how the status quo sticks around.

My fiancee is Korean - she was born here, but her parents were born in Korea (South) and much of their family remains over there. When my fiancee's cousin visited two years ago, I asked him about what S. Koreans thought about their neighbor, and perhaps how our perceptions thousands of miles away are different from people who live much closer.

In speaking with him, the conversation was short and pointed, not so much because his english was poor (it wasn't - he spoke just about as good as any English-speaking American), but because it obviously made him a little uncomfortable to talk about N. Korea. I think being a few hundred miles away from The Dear Lunatic, that their perceptions of danger are different than ours.

With regard to the Internet in N. Korea--that price tag is a deal-breaker for almost every N. Korean citizen. The rest of the people are figuring out how to put food on the table.

It's a sad situation over there, and frankly, the people need more than censored wireless Internet.
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"Honesty may be the best policy, but it's important to remember that apparently, by elimination, dishonesty is the second-best policy." - George Carlin

[my ramblings]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22427627 Fri, 22 May 2009 10:46:57 EDT Re: Unbelievable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22427532 said by S_engineer:

This seems to be the way Venezuala is going too. Some individuals in our country who praise Chavez would have you believe differently.
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It really is unbelievable that in this day and age that a populace can allow itself to be controlled in such a manner.
Part of it is fear, the other part is pride.

When you control the flow of information to the whole country and lock it completely down, the people don't know any better. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22427488 Fri, 22 May 2009 10:26:21 EDT Re: Unbelievable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22427475 --
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they just dont know any different and government does a damn good job keeping out news from the rest of the world ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Unbelievable-22427472 Fri, 22 May 2009 10:25:00 EDT Unbelievable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Unbelievable-22427437 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Unbelievable-22427437 Fri, 22 May 2009 10:19:51 EDT