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Just wondering if the South still exists?

What the heck, thought it time that folks pony up and admit they live in the South and don't be afraid, the North is not going to hit you with a big stick, fess up.

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I'm proud to live in "The South". Never been afraid of yankees. If the War of Northern Aggression were fought today, I don't think the yankees would have enough resources to win. Texas, on the other hand, could probably hold it's own against them, with "a little help from our friends".

Not ashamed of being a Redneck, either. Rednecks don't generally stab you in the back. If they got a problem with you, they say it to your face. (Unlike the ... that inhabit DC these days.)

Oh, BTW, DC is NOT in The South, even though it's below the Mason-Dixon line.
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I'm proud to live in "The South". Never been afraid of yankees. If the War of Northern Aggression were fought today, I don't think the yankees would have enough resources to win. Texas, on the other hand, could probably hold it's own against them, with "a little help from our friends".

Not ashamed of being a Redneck, either. Rednecks don't generally stab you in the back. If they got a problem with you, they say it to your face. (Unlike the ... that inhabit DC these days.)

Oh, BTW, DC is NOT in The South, even though it's below the Mason-Dixon line.
Now, wait....DC is Northern, Thank the stars, all of them.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mason···line.gif

Give a Bull a minute to consider a Cow and low and behold you have a sheep, at least in this case. Wonder how many people knew that!

Seems like a bare few miles are involved, thank goodness Delaware the Capital of Credit Card BS is NOT in the South, that would be just too hard to live down.

Fathers Day [Day for some, week for me] Three Daughters, one Son and NOW, three GrandSons and a GrandDaughter. I think somebody, somewhere, had a sense of humour and expected me to be a parent much longer than anticipated. Well, I get mine, right here X.
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Now, wait....DC is Northern ...
It was originally a swamp which neither side wanted. It is nothing, and nowhere, special; despite what its denizens think.
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said by McSummation See Profile :

Rednecks don't generally stab you in the back. If they got a problem with you, they say it to your face. (Unlike the ... that inhabit DC these days.)
Having experienced a great deal of the public, I disagree.... They'll yell and complain and make a lot of noise about you to everybody else but you. Then again, so does everyone else, so I guess that's not just a redneck trait.
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said by McSummation See Profile :

If the War of Northern Aggression were fought today, I don't think the yankees would have enough resources to win.
What "Northern Aggression"! 'Twas the South as fired on Ft. Sumter; that was "Southern Aggression"!
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said by McSummation See Profile :

I'm proud to live in "The South". Never been afraid of yankees. If the War of Northern Aggression were fought today, I don't think the yankees would have enough resources to win. Texas, on the other hand, could probably hold it's own against them, with "a little help from our friends".
I would say something, but nothing could match the absurdity of all that

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I never considered Texas 'the south'. That's more 'the west'.

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said by MIRV See Profile :

I never considered Texas 'the south'. That's more 'the west'.
Ft. Worth claims it's "Where the West Begins". Dallas is more "Southern". Then, there's West, which is a town on I-35 between Waco and the Metroplex (Dallas/Ft. Worth) and it is Czech. Just east of Round Rock, there are many Swede descendants and, until recently, some of the church services were still in Swedish.

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said by MIRV See Profile :

I never considered Texas 'the south'. That's more 'the west'.
Ft. Worth claims it's "Where the West Begins". Dallas is more "Southern". Then, there's West, which is a town on I-35 between Waco and the Metroplex (Dallas/Ft. Worth) and it is Czech. Just east of Round Rock, there are many Swede descendants and, until recently, some of the church services were still in Swedish.
West has the best kolaches north of Waco...

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As many times as I've been through West, I've never stopped and gotten any kolaches.

BTW, stupid spell check doesn't understand "kolaches".

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That's OK. Most people don't understand kolaches either. When I first moved "up north" to Fort Worth, people here thought a sausage roll was a kolache! I had to explain that a kolache was a pastry with fruit in the middle and what they were dealing with was a pig in a blanket.
Isn't this a fun state?

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At least Wikipedia knows about them, including West - »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolache.

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Good link!
I grew up about 15 miles from Weimar...

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said by MIRV See Profile :

I never considered Texas 'the south'. That's more 'the west'.
I would place Texas more in South Central. When people refer to "The South" I think more of South Carolina, Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama, parts of North Carolina and Virginia, etc. Definitely not Texas.

Has anyone noticed if you change two letters, Texas becomes Taxes? Funny, funny.

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said by MIRV See Profile :

I never considered Texas 'the south'. That's more 'the west'.
I would place Texas more in South Central. When people refer to "The South" I think more of South Carolina, Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama, parts of North Carolina and Virginia, etc. Definitely not Texas.

Aren't you forgettin, ahem, Louisiana? Please don't tell me you threw Louisiana in the "etc." category!

Edit: It's ok though, I was born in Vicksburg, Mississippi.

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To me, the "South" is comprised of the Confederate States (»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederat···_America). They definitely include Texas.

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Another difference between Texas and other places in the South that are more eastern is BBQ/barbecue/barbque (however you want to spell it). Ours is better than yours.

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I don't know. I like the Carolina style of BBQ quite a bit.
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Re: Just wondering if the South still exists?

After living in the Carolinas for almost thirty years, I still much prefer the Memphis-style, tomato-based BBQ.

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I still love me some NC style BBQ. That is the style I grew up on. Louisiana has good food, but I haven't found a decent BBQ since I have been here. Also the lack of country ham drives me nuts. I have to stock up when I go visit my Mom.
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said by McSummation See Profile :

Another difference between Texas and other places in the South that are more eastern is BBQ/barbecue/barbque (however you want to spell it). Ours is better than yours.
See...now you've just gone and made this personal.

I prefer tomato based BBQ's above all.

There are actually 2 kinds of carolina style BBQ....here in SC, they prefer a mustard based BBQ sauce, which I find disgusting. Very good way to ruin a good piece of meat.

North Carolina uses a vinegar based spiced BBQ sauce that is pretty damn good.
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The last time I ate some of that vinegar based stuff, it made me sick.

There are some really good BBQ joints in central Texas. Cooper's in Llano is one of the best.

When talking to new residents about BBQ, I tell them, "Good BBQ doesn't come from a clean place. If it's not smoky and a little 'dirty', it would be any good. In general, the grungier the place, the better the BBQ." Now, having said that, if it's too dirty, the health department might need to be called.

The best BBQ I've had in years was: feral hog (killed the day before), pit roasted, served on big plates out under a pecan tree on the bank of the Frio River downstream from Concan, TX. There were a couple of piggies and a cabrito in there, too, but the big old hog was the best. For dessert, we had "camp cobbler" of the peach variety. Man, was that a party. Folks from all over the world attended. (It was a "welcome to Texas" party for the new daughter-in-law of an old friend of mine. The party was on one of the ancestral ranches.)

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The last time I ate some of that vinegar based stuff, it made me sick.

There are some really good BBQ joints in central Texas. Cooper's in Llano is one of the best.

When talking to new residents about BBQ, I tell them, "Good BBQ doesn't come from a clean place. If it's not smoky and a little 'dirty', it would be any good. In general, the grungier the place, the better the BBQ." Now, having said that, if it's too dirty, the health department might need to be called.

The best BBQ I've had in years was: feral hog (killed the day before), pit roasted, served on big plates out under a pecan tree on the bank of the Frio River downstream from Concan, TX. There were a couple of piggies and a cabrito in there, too, but the big old hog was the best. For dessert, we had "camp cobbler" of the peach variety. Man, was that a party. Folks from all over the world attended. (It was a "welcome to Texas" party for the new daughter-in-law of an old friend of mine. The party was on one of the ancestral ranches.)
Nice!! We have what are called "Pig Pickin's" which is essentially the same thing, though I don't know if the hog was feral or not, but yeah...thats good stuff, man. Every year a friend of ours has a loosely based Luau party. She provides the pit and the pig. A lot of the guys hang out and cook it all night, playing cards, etc and then have it at the party the next day. Everyone else brings sides, etc.....its a good time.
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said by McSummation See Profile :

Another difference between Texas and other places in the South that are more eastern is BBQ/barbecue/barbque (however you want to spell it). Ours is better than yours.
Having grown up in Memphis, I have to take strong exception!. Hell, you Texans think BBQ is beef!

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Oh, read my other post about hog, piggies and cabrito. We eat all that plus bovines.

You know, californians might ... Nah, probably taste like plastic.

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Oh, read my other post about hog, piggies and cabrito. We eat all that plus bovines.

You know, californians might ... Nah, probably taste like plastic.
Must have posted that while I was still typing. BTW, wore my cabrito-skin boots the other day - nice and soft.

BTW, when I used to drive between Hobbs, NM and the Odessa/Midland airport, I noticed a lot of German bakeries on the way. Interesting that Germans, Swedes, and Czechs would settle in such dry country.

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There are a lot of them in central Texas. They got "rights" to land here in the mid-1800's. Since they couldn't own land where they came from, this was like Eden to them, even if it did get hot in the summer.

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Was that too much @ once

Southerner, from the far south, moving into mid south off the lower 48's...LOL

It was a wee bit quite, so thought it worth a stir up. Good thing once in awhile, eh...

Besides, some Southern influence once in awhile, is not such a bad thing

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Last time I checked it was still here.

I'm a bit concerned about the West, though.

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Well, rednecks live everywhere, north and south?

Umm, the war comment, REALLY?

And never have I had so many people lie to me than when I worked in Texas for 4 years.

So my overall point is this thread is just going to stir up a bunch of weird opinions. Mine: People are people of different types no matter where they live. I have seen very little difference in integrity or anything else, when you compare the masses, that varies on where they live.

Rural areas compared to urban areas may be a better compare? But really, sometimes people do not choose to live in the north or south. Work? Family (they grew up there). A lot of factors go into where someone lives. There attitudes and personalities come from far more than just their location.

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So my overall point is this thread is just going to stir up a bunch of weird opinions.
The Yay! is strong with this one.
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And never have I had so many people lie to me than when I worked in Texas for 4 years.

Those were probably the people that moved to Texas from California who are slowly ruining our southern way of life here in the Lone Star State.

Now don't get me wrong, I have met a few outsiders that are pretty nice, but a fair majority are yahoos that need to stay in California. What gets me is that all these folks move to Texas and then complain, bitch and moan about it. Well get the hell out if you don't like it!
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Now don't get me wrong, I have met a few outsiders that are pretty nice, but a fair majority are yahoos that need to stay in California. What gets me is that all these folks move to Texas and then complain, bitch and moan about it. Well get the hell out if you don't like it!
You are kidding, right? Damned near 80% of the people currently living in California (other than "undocumented aliens") either came from somewhere else in the U.S. or were born to people who came from somewhere else in the U.S. Maybe even Texas, for all I know!
What gets me is that all these folks move to Texas and then complain, bitch and moan about it. Well get the hell out if you don't like it!
Loved my drill sergeant's bumper sticker (Ft. Polk, Louisiana): "If your heart ain't in Dixie, get your ass out." "Heart" and "ass" were iconic representations of the words. I'm just too lazy to doll it up that way.

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Differences Between North and South
The North has coffee houses, The South has Waffle Houses
The North has dating services, The South has family reunions.
The North has double last names, The South has double first names.
The North has Cream of Wheat, The South has grits.
The North has green salads, The South has collard greens
The North has lobsters, The South has crawdads.
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When a Southerner gets angry their face turns red, eyes narrow, and they shout (yet could also whisper) but do it with a smile.
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This Yankee was always treated with great southern hospitality every time that I was down south.
The people as far as I'm concerned are more laid back and not rushed like we are up north. And get to know them, they will treat you like family.
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"I would place Texas more in South Central. When people refer to "The South" I think more of South Carolina, Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama, parts of North Carolina and Virginia,Tennessee etc."

There, fixed it for you!

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Texas is still the South, I promise...west of that is where it starts to get weird.

I couldn't be more proud to be from the south, and just so you guys know, a yankee is someone from above the Mason-Dixon, a damn yankee is one who moved down here and won't go back home!

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I love my front porch and the rockers from Cracker Barrel that adorn it

Me too..... Can't beat Cracker Barrel rockers!!
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... a damn yankee is one who moved down here and won't go back home!
Where I grew up, damnyankee was one word. I didn't know it was supposed to be 2 words until I was grown. One that won't go home is also called a "carpetbagger".

There are 2 active railroads in this area. One is the "Austin something or other". One was the Missouri-Pacific until recently, called MoPac for short. One of our freeways is named MoPac because it is built on both sides of the track. One rail that has had the track pulled up was the Missouri-Kansas-Texas, otherwise known as The Katy. Some fool carpetbagger that didn't know the difference, started calling it "The MoKan". It has taken decades to get rid of that name.

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When was the last time you heard of the South doing anything? LOL...
Drive much? We probably made your gasoline...

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Re: Just wondering if the South still exists?

There's an even higher probability that the natural gas that heats his house or makes his electricity came from the South, namely Texas or Oklahoma.
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said by Tzale See Profile :

When was the last time you heard of the South doing anything? LOL...
Drive much? We probably made your gasoline...
Most the gasoline around here comes from south of Suisun Bay. Except for that which comes from Benicia (north of Suisun Bay).
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Most the gasoline around here comes from south of Suisun Bay. Except for that which comes from Benicia (north of Suisun Bay).
That's nice.
Tzale lives in New Jersey...
BTW, California does import gasoline. There are a couple of places that make the California blend. Finland and Corpus Christie, TX...
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Well apparently, the South does exist had doubts for a wee bit, particularly when the map shrunk. Always thought anything south of the Mason Dixon was South, apparently that's not entirely true though, CA is not on my list of "South" where FL is. Certainly some places mentioned are decidedly absent for South Central, MS and TN could have been included?

Now, food -That's liable to get pretty deep in a hurry...LOL

Still a few faces missing around here, *Squints* with a *Smile*.

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BTW the best BBQ is in Tennessee

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I like the food here but I think Texas is just a different animal all on it's own. It's a little southwest and a little southern but I would never mistake it for a Tennessee or Alabama.

and I guess I am a carpetbagger cause I don't plan on moving back to the Midwest.
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Re: Just wondering if the South still exists?

Never really had a problem with any of the States I stayed in (Most), the food is certainly different though from one State to another, at least in terms of what each considers a staple everyday fare.

I wonder if there are links that discern the differences?

The most enjoyable meals State side was in Dallas and New Orleans. Always wanted to have a go at the top East for seafood, but as yet have not had a chance.

The Dixy Line seems to change...LOL The MidWest like every other place has it's ups and downs, kids hold me here, but were I live a little culture would go a long way. Real International news is pretty much absent, if not for the net and that also shows around here. "In the World today...." /insert the State.

So, how far North does one go before they leave the South, from West to East...

Koil
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Re: Just wondering if the South still exists?

The Mason-Dixon is generally a good indicator.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mason-Dixon_Line
Kiwi
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Re: Just wondering if the South still exists?

Darn sight shorter than I thought, live and learn.

McSummation
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Re: Just wondering if the South still exists?

When it was surveyed, the western end of it was "out in the wilderness" by quite a few miles.

One thing to remember is that Maryland, West Virginia, and Kentucky were not part of the Confederate States of America, even though they are south of the Mason-Dixon Line. I usually include Kentucky when I think of "The South", whereas Maryland and WV are not.
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