fiberguy
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Re: Adios
Let's see....
Television Provided by DirecTV
Cell Phones Provided by Verizon
WiFi Provided by AT&T
I'd Pick on their Internet and say Provided by MSN... (long shot though)
And.. it just leaves them with crappy, over static, unreliable, over priced voice service that no one really wants any more.
Hrmmmm... I wonder where that leaves the big Q... |
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cscottm
join:2002-05-09
Kent, WA | Qwest is actually still the ISP. When you look at the modem's login info & password, it has a qwest.net login name |
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nocabletelcoboi
@mycingular.net
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Funny how you're often the first to criticise people who either generalize or exaggerate.
Any proof that "no one really" wants voice through Qwest?
Any proof that qwest's voice is static and unreliable? Or are you doing the same thing you blast others for doing by talking like your experience speaks for all others?
said by fiberguy  :Let's see.... Television Provided by DirecTV Cell Phones Provided by Verizon WiFi Provided by AT&T I'd Pick on their Internet and say Provided by MSN... (long shot though) And.. it just leaves them with crappy, over static, unreliable, over priced voice service that no one really wants any more. Hrmmmm... I wonder where that leaves the big Q... |
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nocabletelcoboi
@mycingular.net
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Funny how you're often the first to criticise people who either generalize or exaggerate.
Any proof that "no one really" wants voice through Qwest?
Any proof that qwest's voice is static and unreliable? Or are you doing the same thing you blast others for doing by talking like your experience speaks for all others?
said by fiberguy :Let's see.... Television Provided by DirecTV Cell Phones Provided by Verizon WiFi Provided by AT&T I'd Pick on their Internet and say Provided by MSN... (long shot though) And.. it just leaves them with crappy, over static, unreliable, over priced voice service that no one really wants any more. Hrmmmm... I wonder where that leaves the big Q... |
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fiberguy
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said by cscottm :Qwest is actually still the ISP. When you look at the modem's login info & password, it has a qwest.net login name I know they are..  That's why I said it was a stretch. |
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Metatron2008
join:2008-09-02
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said by nocabletelcoboi :Funny how you're often the first to criticise people who either generalize or exaggerate. Any proof that "no one really" wants voice through Qwest? Any proof that qwest's voice is static and unreliable? Or are you doing the same thing you blast others for doing by talking like your experience speaks for all others? said by fiberguy :Let's see.... Television Provided by DirecTV Cell Phones Provided by Verizon WiFi Provided by AT&T I'd Pick on their Internet and say Provided by MSN... (long shot though) And.. it just leaves them with crappy, over static, unreliable, over priced voice service that no one really wants any more. Hrmmmm... I wonder where that leaves the big Q... said by nocabletelcoboi :Funny how you're often the first to criticise people who either generalize or exaggerate. Any proof that "no one really" wants voice through Qwest? Any proof that qwest's voice is static and unreliable? Or are you doing the same thing you blast others for doing by talking like your experience speaks for all others? said by fiberguy :Let's see.... Television Provided by DirecTV Cell Phones Provided by Verizon WiFi Provided by AT&T I'd Pick on their Internet and say Provided by MSN... (long shot though) And.. it just leaves them with crappy, over static, unreliable, over priced voice service that no one really wants any more. Hrmmmm... I wonder where that leaves the big Q... Maybe the fact that most people no longer was POTS? |
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Nocabletelcoboi1
@mycingular.net
|  said by Metatron2008 :Maybe the fact that most people no longer was POTS? Let's see those "facts" that show how "most" people don't want POTS. fiberguy always states people on this website aren't comprised of most people.
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uid1307457
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Tempe, AZ
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1 edit | reply to cscottm
said by cscottm :Qwest is actually still the ISP. When you look at the modem's login info & password, it has a qwest.net login name only for the first time. after that it is your own user name ([first name first two letter] [first name] [bunch of numbers] )and password.
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uid1307457
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said by Nocabletelcoboi1 :said by Metatron2008 :Maybe the fact that most people no longer was POTS? Let's see those "facts" that show how "most" people don't want POTS. fiberguy always states people on this website aren't comprised of most people. Most people do not know what POTS is or even care that it is used. All they want is a phone that has a tone, dials a number, and a person picks up on the other end.
for example, my mother thinks IE, Firefox, and Yahoo IM is all email. She says I need to check my email and if she has trouble I have to look at what she is doing to know what she is doing. if I ask her if she cared that POTS was being used she would respond with what the fuck is POTs...If I ask her what she thought of VOIP, she would respond what the fuck is VOIP. My mother is the average techie American. she could care less about how something works or what is being used to get it to work. all she expects is that the damn thing works (her words).
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Noah Vail
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| said by uid1307457 :for example, my mother...if I ask her if she cared that POTS was being used she would respond with what the ***! is POTs...If I ask her what she thought of VOIP, she would respond what the ***! is VOIP. Your mother has a potty mouth.
I hope she doesn't kiss her....uh never mind.
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fiberguy
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Um... Yea... my proof is the bleed of customers that Qwest is experiencing being the largest land line loss of all the major providers, for one. Is that enough for you?
Second, it's a WELL documented fact, over years, that Qwest, formerly US WEST, of having THE WORST reliable service and THE WORST in call quality of all land line providers.
I'm guessing you're not a Qwest customer, are you!?
Ever had a provider take 8 months to get you a single land line? Ever had a provider lie through their teeth with static at the dmarc and tell you there's nothing wrong? Ever had your service go down for a week or two at a time with no resolution?
When you live in major cities like Minneapolis/St. Paul, Denver, Seattle, Phoenix, you'd not expect to have service like you lived in a remote back woods area where Party lines are the norm.
I don't base this off my own experiences, which have been INCREDIBLY awful, but off of actual data, complaints, and PUC records..
So, I"m sorry to disappoint you, mr anon, by my statement was vague or generalized one bit.
Google will guide you the rest of the way... |
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fiberguy
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join:2005-05-20 | reply to Nocabletelcoboi1
Do your homework.. and stop the non-sense.. you're simply flame bating. |
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nocabletelcoboi2
@qwest.net
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said by fiberguy :Um... Yea... my proof is the bleed of customers that Qwest is experiencing being the largest land line loss of all the major providers, for one. Is that enough for you? That's still far short of "no one really", a claim you made, and is simply the same type of generalization and exaggeration that you blast others for.
said by fiberguy :Second, it's a WELL documented fact, over years, that Qwest, formerly US WEST, of having THE WORST reliable service and THE WORST in call quality of all land line providers. I'm guessing you're not a Qwest customer, are you!? Guess again. Another incorrect assumption on your part.
said by fiberguy :Ever had a provider take 8 months to get you a single land line? Ever had a provider lie through their teeth with static at the dmarc and tell you there's nothing wrong? Ever had your service go down for a week or two at a time with no resolution? Sounds like a personal experience, you know, the type that when others share you blast them because they don't represent the majority?
said by fiberguy :When you live in major cities like Minneapolis/St. Paul, Denver, Seattle, Phoenix, you'd not expect to have service like you lived in a remote back woods area where Party lines are the norm. I don't base this off my own experiences, which have been INCREDIBLY awful, but off of actual data, complaints, and PUC records.. So, I"m sorry to disappoint you, mr anon, by my statement was vague or generalized one bit. Google will guide you the rest of the way... It sure was vague and generalized. Thank-you for being honest. |
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nocabletelcoboi2
@qwest.net
1 edit | reply to fiberguy
said by fiberguy :Do your homework.. and stop the non-sense.. you're simply flame bating. You still have not provided any facts, just personal claims. Where are the facts to support your exaggerated claims and your personal experience that you're passing off as representing the majority? You know, the same thing you blast others for doing on this site?!
You made a claim, I asked for the report. |
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fiberguy
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2 edits | reply to nocabletelcoboi2
US West/Qwest has plenty of documented history of outrageous service issues..
Like I said.. Google it.. enjoy your research.. and really.. knock it off, you're not cute.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_West
Criticisms of U S WEST
Despite the rapid growth and waves of technology, U S WEST began to capture the ire of many customers and even some of the states in which they operated.
U S WEST, in several complaints that landed the company in court, was accused of failing to meet service needs within a reasonable time frame and of practicing predatory billing and collection methods. While the company often claimed that subscriber demands were often greater than their ability to fulfill orders, many critics pointed to high profit margins, spending on bring-to-market technology and lackluster investment in customer support. Critics also accused the company of monopoly-like practices. The charge of monopoly practices was considered quite serious, since the US Courts had specifically broken up the AT&T/Bell operating companies in order to eliminate or minimize such monopolistic effects.
The company was fined multiple times by the State of Oregon for these practices during the 1990s. U S WEST was also, at several times, involved in smaller litigation with other states within its service area for similar complaints from customers.
In business-to-business matters, U S WEST also had a rather sullied reputation shortly before its demise. Namely, Qwest, MCI and smaller CLECs who had recently been allowed to offer local service within U S WEST's service area (as a result of the Telecommunications Act of 1996) complained to the FCC that U S WEST was uncooperative in releasing their formerly owned lines to these new companies. These types of complaints landed U S WEST in court yet again and offered the complex question of whether or not the government could legally offer the sale of owned property to other companies in the event of deregulation. |
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Nocabletelcoboi3
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Fact is, you claimed that "no one really" wants qwest's phone. I asked for evidence to support your claim and you avoid it. You freqently blast users for exaggerating and assuming their experience represents the majority Then you make complaints about your own service as some sort of proof that it represents the majority or backs your exaggerated claims. If everyone had these issues qwest would not be around. Period. You state reports that not only don't state "no one really" wants qwest's phone, but reports about service issues that nearly all probably have.
Let's also remember qwest has one of the worst territories compared to other telcos. That doesn't help their business or upgrade path. |
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uid1307457
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Tempe, AZ
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said by Noah Vail :said by uid1307457 : Your mother has a potty mouth. I have no fucking idea what the fuck you mean. 
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Hydroshock
join:2002-09-12
Colorado Springs, CO
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I like my Qwest service 
but I would prefer if Verizon could buy the whole company. (I wanna be able to jump on the Fios bandwagon ) |
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cyclone_z
join:2006-06-19
Ames, IA
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| reply to Metatron2008
said by Metatron2008 :Maybe the fact that most people no longer was POTS? Very true. How the hell can you terrorize the roads when your home phone won't reach out to your car and the cordless maybe has a range of 2 blocks? |
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