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KevNYC
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reply to Dodge
Re: Defensive Driving Courses Now Online!

said by Dodge See Profile :

said by KevNYC See Profile :

Yep.. "If you take a DMV-approved accident prevention course, you can"

reduce your driver violation point total by a maximum of four points, and
save 10 percent on your automobile liability and collision insurance premiums."
That's not exactly true. It raises the maximum allowed points to suspension by 4. NYS licenses get suspended for having 11 points. If you have the course you can go as high as 15 points, but if you had 11 on your record you still have 11 not 7.
I quoted from the NYSDMV website. In the end, what's the difference?


Dersgniw
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By quickly reading that your points are reduced by 4, I would (surely ignorantly) think that those points are wiped away. The cop that pulls me over next won't see them and my insurance won't see them.

In his explanation your insurance will still see your points after taking the course. But, you're allowed 4 extra points before you get your license revoked, meaning this part of the program has little incentive to most of us.
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NY Tel
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said by Dersgniw See Profile :

By quickly reading that your points are reduced by 4, I would (surely ignorantly) think that those points are wiped away. The cop that pulls me over next won't see them and my insurance won't see them.

In his explanation your insurance will still see your points after taking the course. But, you're allowed 4 extra points before you get your license revoked, meaning this part of the program has little incentive to most of us.
Yeah, sounds like Abbot and Costello logic to me too.


way2evil
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reply to KevNYC
What a joke. I read the text in five minutes and then waited for the timer to run down. Then I took a 3 question quiz with one of the questions: "What color was the background in the firs comic?" The final exam was "Do you promise to abide by all NY laws?"
I used improv driving school so if you want an easy class go with them.


Dersgniw
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It is easy, but you have to baby sit. You can read the material for each chapter in about 5 minutes (if you choose) and then you have to wait 30 minutes for the timer. And sometime in that 30 minutes you'll have to type your password within 2 minutes.

It is a joke, but what do you expect when you mix government with insurance?
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said by way2evil See Profile :

The final exam was "Do you promise to abide by all NY laws?"
I used improv driving school so if you want an easy class go with them.
I used IMPROV too. One of the questions in the survey was "Has this course had any impact in your driving habits?"

I answered no

lol


Coderedpl
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reply to KevNYC
I visited the DMV today and spoke with one of the guys at the "counter"

I was told the same thing as someone mentioned, it raises your maximum by 4 instead of removing 4. Don't really see a point in this except for the insurance deduction because of my 4 points :/

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If the violations were minor, it wouldn't affect your premiums anyway.

I have five points on mine from two moving violations. GEICO didn't raise my premiums on the last renewal. GEICO did lower the premium by $80 per year with the driving course though.


Coderedpl
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reply to KevNYC
Re: Defensive Driving Courses Now Online!

took the course from myimprov. Did it in one day (both at work and home). Received certificate few days later, sent out to geico and discount was applied.


NY Tel
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said by Coderedpl See Profile :

took the course from myimprov. Did it in one day (both at work and home). Received certificate few days later, sent out to geico and discount was applied.
Ok I am with Geico and thinking of my wife and I taking the course online.. How much was your bill before and how much is it now? In other words, to what portion of the bill is the discount applied?


Coderedpl
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said by NY Tel See Profile :

said by Coderedpl See Profile :

took the course from myimprov. Did it in one day (both at work and home). Received certificate few days later, sent out to geico and discount was applied.
Ok I am with Geico and thinking of my wife and I taking the course online.. How much was your bill before and how much is it now? In other words, to what portion of the bill is the discount applied?
I'm not exactly sure since there is two people on my policy.
I'm only 18 so my discount is higher than my brothers. My brothers was around ~90 and mine was around ~170$ discounted.


NY Tel
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said by Coderedpl See Profile :

said by NY Tel See Profile :

said by Coderedpl See Profile :

took the course from myimprov. Did it in one day (both at work and home). Received certificate few days later, sent out to geico and discount was applied.
Ok I am with Geico and thinking of my wife and I taking the course online.. How much was your bill before and how much is it now? In other words, to what portion of the bill is the discount applied?
I'm not exactly sure since there is two people on my policy.
I'm only 18 so my discount is higher than my brothers. My brothers was around ~90 and mine was around ~170$ discounted.
More money to spend in the girlfriend.....

Thanks

adrman
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New York, NY
reply to NY Tel
I think the discount only applies to liability. I just completed the course while I was sitting in the jury tank this week. Once I get my certificate and hear back from Geico on the $ amount of the discount, I'll post it.


PCInTech
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problem with this is, not everyone in NYS has a COMPUTER and can do this. So it costs them more, and in some cases, having to drive an hour each way or more, to take the test.


way2evil
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said by PCInTech See Profile :

problem with this is, not everyone in NYS has a COMPUTER and can do this. So it costs them more, and in some cases, having to drive an hour each way or more, to take the test.
You are in NY and have to drive an hour to use a computer????


KevNYC
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said by PCInTech See Profile :

problem with this is, not everyone in NYS has a COMPUTER and can do this. So it costs them more, and in some cases, having to drive an hour each way or more, to take the test.
What? Not sure if I understand you correctly. This is by no means required for your insurance, and the regular in-class course is still being offered. Also, don't all public libraries have computers if you REALLY wanted to do it online.
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PCInTech
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said by way2evil See Profile :

You are in NY and have to drive an hour to use a computer????
To take the class in person, not to use a computer. Apparently you don't know much about rural Northern NY State?


PCInTech
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said by KevNYC See Profile :

What? Not sure if I understand you correctly. This is by no means required for your insurance, and the regular in-class course is still being offered. Also, don't all public libraries have computers if you REALLY wanted to do it online.
The in-class course requires a trip across the county, in our case, it's an hour each way to the nearest DMV office. Our public library limits your use to one hour per patron. Then there's people who don't have a clue how to use one of the things. I just had to babysit an older woman taking the FL Driver's course for this reason, and she couldn't operate a mouse. I had to do all the clicking for her. Entire course and tests took us over 6 hours.
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