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tritch

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Static IP price increase on June 12?

Anyone else who has a static IP see this in their recent Embarq statement and why would they be doing this just before the merger?

BTW, I've never heard it called "Earthlink Static IP" before, so this is strange.....

Earthlink® Static IP
We appreciate your business and value you as a customer. From time to time rate adjustments need to be made on some of our
basic plans. Effective June 12, 2009, your Earthlink® Static IP monthly service charge will increase from $4.95 to $9.95. If your
Internet needs have changed since you became a loyal customer, any of our Home Communications Consultants would be
happy to discuss the different Internet plans available from EMBARQ. you can also find more information about our services by
visiting embarq.com/Residential/InternetAccess.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to call us at 866-304-6820.

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RadioDoc 58ef2c0 Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11	Re: Static IP price increase on June 12? I just shuffled my services around last week and they didn't say anything about my static IP going up to $9.95. Are there any Earthlink customers still on Embarq?
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Silentwolf Vaprotan Premium join:2002-07-03 Kingsport, TN clubs:	Not heard anything about it yet. Hopefully they won't increase the price on it..
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tritch join:2007-04-30 Porter, TX 1 edit	Maybe Joey at Embarq can enlighten us. I've had a static IP for 2 years now. I've never heard or seen it referred to as Earthlink static IP before. AFAIK, just the Embarq email service was provided by Earthlink for several years, but even that relationship has ended for some time now.
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rabeatz Premium join:2009-03-21 Apopka, FL	I haven't heard anything about a price increase nor read about it anywhere except on this forum. I'd wait to hear Embarq_Joey 's response
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ajcollins join:2006-11-26 Plymouth, IN	»Review of CenturyLink by AlexNYC Hopefully that $25 static IP price for CenturyTel is gone (the review was done over 3 years ago.) Anyway, if Embarq does raise the price of a static IP, I more than likely will be switching.
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RadioDoc 58ef2c0 Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11	If nobody hears anything by tomorrow night I'll call in and see what this is about.
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Tarheels Fan Premium join:2006-01-05	I know IP pools are getting harder and harder to justify with ARIN and more expensive to get new ones. This may be an effort to force those with statics to rethink their decision and use a dynamic DNS service instead.
	permalink · 2009-05-27 22:34:11 ·

Hazy Arc join:2006-04-10 Greenwood, SC	Re: Static IP price increase on June 12? Agreed. There is very little you can't do with a dynamic DNS service that you could do with a static IP address (legitimately, anyways).
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said by Tarheels Fan

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I know IP pools are getting harder and harder to justify with ARIN and more expensive to get new ones.

Completely agree with this part.

said by Tarheels Fan

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This may be an effort to force those with statics to rethink their decision and use a dynamic DNS service instead.

I'm not sure I follow this though. With either static or dynamic addressing I'm still consuming an IP address.

I understand charging a fee for static addressing, but $10 is a bit much. For $10 Comcast routes me a whole /28 (16 IPs) on my business connection.

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RadioDoc 58ef2c0 Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11	Re: Static IP price increase on June 12? I'll wager the underlying charge for your Comcast business line is far more than $39 per month.
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Re: Static IP price increase on June 12?

Comcast business accounts start at $69.95 for the 8/2 offering, but that's not really the point.

The only reason to bump the static IP fee is to bolster revenue -- not that there is anything overtly wrong with that. I do find it puzzling that Embarq would drop the price on their 10mbps service, which has greater cost implications in terms of provisioning and infrastructure fees, while jacking up the price on static IPs.

Unless the motivation is try to remove support of static IPs by incrementally bumping to cost to deter people from requesting statics?

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RadioDoc 58ef2c0 Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11	Re: Static IP price increase on June 12? That is really the point. You pay almost twice what the mid-priced Embarq tier costs so naturally Comcast is less likely to try to make their profits on ups and extras (as Earl Schieb used to say) like static IP addresses.
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Re: Static IP price increase on June 12?

An equivalent offering in Embarq-land is the $54.95 10/896 service, which for $10 extra I get a whopping single fixed address.

Comcast's $69.95 8/2 tier might be $15 more, but the upstream is more than twice as fast and for $10 I get 12 more usable IP addresses than Embarq will give me.

This move isn't likely to gain Embarq a ton of revenue -- you're going to have a bunch of people dropping their static IP, which most likely isn't going to be offset by the people still willing to pay the $10 premium. They'd be better off bumping the base cost of each of the plans by $1 and partying like rockstars with the extra revenue.

With as big of an increase as this is, it really does read like they want to drop support for static IPs but right now too many people have them. If that were the strategy, then bumping the cost to reduce the number of people with this configuration would be the first step to eliminating the offering.

I hope I'm wrong -- I like my static address.

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RadioDoc 58ef2c0 Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11 ·AT&T Midwest	Re: Static IP price increase on June 12? Embarq has very limited deployment of 10/.896 and can barely get 5/.768 to most so that tier is not a valid comparison. A better one would be the $39.95 3/.512. Plus, we haven't even verified what this is all about yet, especially considering that "Earthlink" mention. Are you in an Embarq territory?
	permalink · 2009-05-28 17:35:56 ·

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Re: Static IP price increase on June 12?

said by RadioDoc

Plus, we haven't even verified what this is all about yet, especially considering that "Earthlink" mention. Are you in an Embarq territory?

I would say it is confirmed that is an Embarq change for static IPs. Not sure why it's called "Earthlink Static IP", it could just be an outdated name in the billing system.

said by Embarq_Joey

Is it increasing on June 12th, the bill message is correct. Confirmed that this morning

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RadioDoc 58ef2c0 Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11	Re: Static IP price increase on June 12? Pass it upwind that this is a very silly price increase. I would drop the static IP myself if Embarq could manage to get my line to not retrain sixteen times a day.
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said by RadioDoc

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Are you in an Embarq territory?

Yeah - I've been an Embarq DSL customer since 2006. It's my backup normal-use connection to the cable Internet service, and I've been running all my primary SIP/RTP VoIP traffic over DSL to keep it free of other traffic on the cable line.

I have a few obstacles I can't overcome with dyndns, namely firewall rules and SIP trunks / CNAM providers that I use that authenticate based on source IP, so I'm pretty much locked into needing a static IP to retain desired use of the connection.

It is a little frustrating in that I'm just getting over 5 months of having an unusable connection. The RT in my neighborhood was so badly oversubscribed that night peak hours resulted in constant 10-15% packet loss. Luckily cable only went out once in that timespan, but even though my connection was up on DSL I ended up having to call up Sprint and add tethering to my account so I could use my EVDO connection to VPN into work. (15% packet loss resulted in constant disconnects of the VPN) If they had announced this price increase 8 weeks ago I would have just canceled the service altogether. Now either they upgraded capacity or enough people canceled service in my neighborhood so there isn't a capacity crunch anymore and things are working pretty well, so I guess I'll probably just grumble a bit about it in this thread and pay the higher bill.

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Re: Static IP price increase on June 12?

Mine in Florida has been up and running since Dec. 2005 so we're about the same there timewise. I have a static IP address because they can't seem to keep the line from resetting every few hours. The modem retrains very fast but if I had to go DHCP or (gasp!) PPPoE on it, that would pretty much make it unusable. Having the bridged static is the only way it works, but now that Comcast finally got their act together and is offering functional HSI in my area for about the same price I'll have to seriously consider switching (and anyone familiar with me knows how painful it is for me to consider).

The thing that really chaps my ass about it is that I spent the better part of two hours on the phone with Embarq a little over two weeks ago redoing POTS and LD on this line to bring it up to date with current offerings (the line has been active since 1985) and there was not one peep about this increase. They managed to do exactly what I requested they not do (dropped it from 5 to 3 megs) in the process, which was un-done by a very diligent CSR the next week and STILL no mention of this. Yeah I know it's only five bucks but it is a hell of a lot of goodwill to piss away for that amount of increased revenue.

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rabeatz Premium join:2009-03-21 Apopka, FL ·Embarq	Re: Static IP price increase on June 12? afaik they didn't tell the CSR's (but i could be wrong). I'm a data technician and I wasn't aware of this until I read it on the forum. Haven't seen a mention of it on the Data or CSR news/updates pages either.. So I don't think that they intentionally with-held it from you. But that's just my thought - I could be wrong.
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rabeatz Premium join:2009-03-21 Apopka, FL ·Embarq	I guess I should consider myself lucky - i have 10meg service and I have never had the problem you guys are describing - my modem's uptime is over 30 days right now (DHCP, bridged modem) without a loss of sync. But it could be that I have a loop length of only 2800ft.
	permalink · 2009-05-29 16:54:26 ·

Tarheels Fan Premium join:2006-01-05	Radio, Maybe I'm not following how a bridged static keeps the line up? Line connectivity is layer 1 as IP is layer 3.
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Re: Static IP price increase on June 12?

I think that RadioDoc is saying that his connection keeps dropping, however if he is assigned a static then there is a chance to reconnect before any existing network connections drop. If you have a dynamic account, then you will usually be assigned a different ip address on reconnection so there is no chance of existing network connections being maintained.

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Tarheels Fan Premium join:2006-01-05	Re: Static IP price increase on June 12? Ah ok, well with dynamics assigned to MAC addresses and not dropped but every 15min - 60min - then it would be the same thing.... Radiodoc should see about getting his line fixed permanently.
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Re: Static IP price increase on June 12?

said by Tarheels Fan

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Ah ok, well with dynamics assigned to MAC addresses and not dropped but every 15min - 60min - then it would be the same thing.... Radiodoc should see about getting his line fixed permanently.

Good luck with that. The line has been up for 4-1/2 years and they still haven't figured out what is wrong...after three tries. The only "solution" was to drop the sync rate. The line is 12,500+ feet long.

The static IP address means once the modem retrains things go merrily along as if nothing happened. If they implement PPPoE that makes it completely unusable. Completely. I've been through that BS on my AT&T lines.

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Tarheels Fan Premium join:2006-01-05	Re: Static IP price increase on June 12? Radio - Embarq doesn't use PPPoE - they use dynamic addressing based off your router's MAC address - so I don't think you would see the same issue.
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RadioDoc 58ef2c0 Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11 ·AT&T Midwest	Re: Static IP price increase on June 12? said by Tarheels Fan : Radio - Embarq doesn't use PPPoE - they use dynamic addressing based off your router's MAC address - so I don't think you would see the same issue. Yeah, I know. I've been a customer longer than you've been at this site. There was some speculation about the new boys implementing it in their new playground.
	permalink · 2009-06-02 13:24:06 · Print ·

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Re: Static IP price increase on June 12?

said by RadioDoc

said by Tarheels Fan

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Radio - Embarq doesn't use PPPoE - they use dynamic addressing based off your router's MAC address - so I don't think you would see the same issue.

Yeah, I know. I've been a customer longer than you've been at this site.

There was some speculation about the new boys implementing it in their new playground.

Some things aren't as they seem radio

Also, DHCP is here to stay - No looking back at PPPoE

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scooper join:2000-07-11 Youngsville, NC	said by RadioDoc : Yeah, I know. I've been a customer longer than you've been at this site. I've been around almost as long as you - I was like the 3rd person installed with DSL at my DSLAM - and that's because I was working for Sprint at the time...
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joako Premium join:2000-09-07 /dev/null ·AT&T U-Verse	said by RadioDoc : That is really the point. You pay almost twice what the mid-priced Embarq tier costs so naturally Comcast is less likely to try to make their profits on ups and extras (as Earl Schieb used to say) like static IP addresses. What does it matter? IP addresses are free, worst case they cost Embarq pennies a year in administrative costs and ARIN membership fees. -- PRescott7-2097
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Re: Static IP price increase on June 12?

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said by RadioDoc

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That is really the point. You pay almost twice what the mid-priced Embarq tier costs so naturally Comcast is less likely to try to make their profits on ups and extras (as Earl Schieb used to say) like static IP addresses.

What does it matter? IP addresses are free, worst case they cost Embarq pennies a year in administrative costs and ARIN membership fees.

there's a limited supply for IP addresses with IPv4, and the demand is still growing, so they're far from "free", as they have a natural market value on their own.

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Tarheels Fan Premium join:2006-01-05 ·Embarq	With static IP pools, we may put a /26 in the redback and only half of them are used (much less in residential areas). This leaves A LOT of dormant IP space. With dynamic IP pools we will use a /21 pool and is easier to control and break up further if needed. Hopefully that explains it
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scooper join:2000-07-11 Youngsville, NC 1 edit	No change on my bill - Static IP $4.95 per month (this is with 3M down / 640K up DSL in NC in the Wake Forest area) Edit Didn't anything about it online. Got home - that same statement about static IP doubling is there on the paperbill. Time to call Embarq tomorrow morning....
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bctrainers join:2004-08-03 Olathe, KS	I have not received a message regarding this myself. I have a static IP address as well - will be monitoring my bill coming up this month for if there are any changes. -- --bc
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Alleyman join:2001-12-08 Fuquay Varina, NC	I have seen the notice on my bill. It's not a change yet. If your bill is laid out the same as mine the warning is on page 5 of 5 under the heading EMBARQ Important Information and News You Can Use section. Talks about the Earthlink Static IP. My text in this section reads just like tritch posted. So it does look like we're getting an additional charge.
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scooper join:2000-07-11 Youngsville, NC	Called and cancelled my static IP this morning - supposed to be tomorrow by 7 PM.
	permalink · 2009-05-28 10:05:39 ·

Embarq_Joey VIP join:2008-09-22	Is it increasing on June 12th, the bill message is correct. Confirmed that this morning.
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tritch join:2007-04-30 Porter, TX 1 edit	Re: Static IP price increase on June 12? Wow....so it is true! A 100% price increase is too much for me to stomach. I will have to cancel the static IP and start using a dynamic DNS service.
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dsllh join:2005-11-26 Clinton, NJ 1 edit	Man how to create work and expose themselves to support costs. Reasonable increases or incentives to give them up make more sense. Still waiting my bill to see what happens here on a business account.
	permalink · 2009-05-28 12:29:21 ·

scooper join:2000-07-11 Youngsville, NC	Naturally - the switch was not entirely uneventful - but the wife is back online using DHCP and bridged connection
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Well - I've been a DSL customer since July 2000, and except for a brief 2-6 month stint - we had ALWAYS had a static IP. Since the wife is no longer working at home, there's no real reason for us to stay on static, especially with that price hike.

Besides, if your router doesn't go down - you're essentially going to have a static 99% of the time anyway. My network gear is on an UPS, and just about never goes down....

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sestrada join:2008-01-01	rate adjustments need to be made on some of our basic plans --- Dear Embarq_Joey What's service plans are those?
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mdaddyrabbit Premium join:2004-02-05 Clinton, NC	Got my Bill today and my static went from 4.95 to 9.95 why? If they are going to raise prices then I want more service? Everything keeps going up but salaries.
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Re: Static IP price increase on June 12?

said by mdaddyrabbit

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Got my Bill today and my static went from 4.95 to 9.95 why? If they are going to raise prices then I want more service? Everything keeps going up but salaries.

I'm not exactly sure how you're going to get more "service" from a static IP address...maybe they could send you a nice shiny certificate in a frame that shows your IP address.

It is naive to think that broadband prices will stay the same (or anything else for that matter).

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mdaddyrabbit Premium join:2004-02-05 Clinton, NC	Re: Static IP price increase on June 12? Faster upload speed to help digest more fee increases....that would be perfect.
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Titus Pullo I came, I saw, I slept join:2004-06-26 ·Embarq	said by mdaddyrabbit : Everything keeps going up but salaries. That's the dreaded vicious circle; it's business spitting in the wind. --
	permalink · 2009-06-27 12:15:58 ·

bctrainers join:2004-08-03 Olathe, KS	I got notification via embarq.com and it's now 9.95$. I really don't want to rid of my static IP address - It's time consuming to update things (Dynamic DNS doesn't cut it:p). -- --bc
	permalink · 2009-06-27 05:26:50 ·

scooper join:2000-07-11 Youngsville, NC 1 edit	FWIW - my DHCP IP address hasn't changed since we first come online with it. Of course, my DSL modem and router haven't been off since then either.... So in conjunction with the dyndns , it works well enough. And yes - I'm one of the Embarq monitors...
	permalink · 2009-06-27 21:19:21 ·

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Residential price increase on static IPs all the way to $9.99. You guys still have probably the cheapest static IP service any where.

I've had internet service through 6 companies and I was never able to get a static IP for $9.99. Most companies out there won't even talk to you about getting a static IP unless you purchase a heck of an expensive business plan.

One company, Charter, was the one that first made me think of a DynDNS account. But then I found out that they block the hell out of their ports. So that was near useless and too expensive. But on that score it was 6 years ago. So it could be different now.

And in the area I've had services, south eastern MN, western WI, the cheapest option I've had was Centurytel for $20 residential. It is either that or get a business account. And if I get a business account for the internet, they will require a business phone for the internet as well. They don't do PBB on business yet.

So to all of you that are complaining about not getting any 'more' services, you should look around for static IP options. I think you will find that when you did have it for $4.99, Embarq-Earthlink was GIVING it to you. And for nearly $10, they are still being extremely kind.

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