Topic 'Re: Time to regulate as a utility.....' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Time-to-regulate-as-a-utility-22458011 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:14:51 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:14:51 EDT Re: They better not or else http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-They-better-not-or-else-22469738 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-They-better-not-or-else-22469738 Sat, 30 May 2009 17:21:01 EDT Re: Time to regulate as a utility..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Time-to-regulate-as-a-utility-22462527 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Time-to-regulate-as-a-utility-22462527 Fri, 29 May 2009 08:20:56 EDT Re: They better not or else http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-They-better-not-or-else-22461874
No wonder they are against using their Media Manager software with Netflix, to stream video to their DVR for TV viewing. They want to control what internet video content can be downloaded and watched on a FIOS-connected TV. And, who can watch it.

And, if you use other methods to watch internet video, that where caps and metered billing might come in.
Mark F.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-They-better-not-or-else-22461874 Fri, 29 May 2009 01:06:51 EDT Re: Time to regulate as a utility..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Time-to-regulate-as-a-utility-22460932
Time Warner's 5-40 gig tiers aren't viable for a family. Period. Not even a family of non-piraters. There are too many legitimate and legal uses for bandwidth. They need to reanalyze just what the average amount of bandwidth *households* consume every month rather than the average amount a single person does.
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You're watching Sports Night on CSC so stick around...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Time-to-regulate-as-a-utility-22460932 Thu, 28 May 2009 21:29:49 EDT Re: Time to regulate as a utility..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Time-to-regulate-as-a-utility-22460339 said by S_engineer:

These are hypotheticals that in my opinion are irrelevant.Agreed. My response was to danawhitaker See Profile's allusion that households should be treated differently based on number of inhabitants which is not what we want carriers doing IMO.
said by S_engineer:

demanding even more profit at a time when they're showing no capitol improvements towards the network infrastructure
How can you make that assertion? Carriers are investing in their infrastructure and increasing income can only increase the possibility of additional CAPEX.
said by S_engineer:

I guess Cash is King still holds true!
Of course it is and to believe otherwise is foolish.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Time-to-regulate-as-a-utility-22460339 Thu, 28 May 2009 19:30:27 EDT Re: Time to regulate as a utility..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Time-to-regulate-as-a-utility-22459930 said by openbox9:

So should that family of four or five be charged more money per month than the sole person in a household?
Well what if the one person household is a person thats downloading 24/7?

These are hypotheticals that in my opinion are irrelevant. The carriers business model of averaging usage has been more than profitable for them. Now their holding a knife to the throat demanding even more profit at a time when they're showing no capitol improvements towards the network infrastructure.
This by no means is the case with all carriers, however the precedent once set, will be reigning practice among all providers.

The worst part about this is the futile attempt to educate our legislators about these issues. I guess Cash is King still holds true!
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BF69~~~Please stop suffocating gerbils!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Time-to-regulate-as-a-utility-22459930 Thu, 28 May 2009 18:14:18 EDT Re: They better not or else http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-They-better-not-or-else-22459635 said by fifty nine:

Who ever said that the object of metered billing was to make money from overages?

Metered billing is to protect the video revenue. If you discourage people from Hulu an BitTorrent they will have no choice but to eat the fruit from the walled garden.
Exactly]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-They-better-not-or-else-22459635 Thu, 28 May 2009 17:16:23 EDT Re: They better not or else http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-They-better-not-or-else-22459186 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-They-better-not-or-else-22459186 Thu, 28 May 2009 16:07:29 EDT Re: They better not or else http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-They-better-not-or-else-22458808
Metered billing is to protect the video revenue. If you discourage people from Hulu an BitTorrent they will have no choice but to eat the fruit from the walled garden. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-They-better-not-or-else-22458808 Thu, 28 May 2009 15:08:56 EDT Re: Time to regulate as a utility..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Time-to-regulate-as-a-utility-22458789 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Time-to-regulate-as-a-utility-22458789 Thu, 28 May 2009 15:05:16 EDT Re: Time to regulate as a utility..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Time-to-regulate-as-a-utility-22458730
You just hit on another point there - on a person. Not a household. Some households have just one computer and one user, some have three computers and five users, or six computers and six users. What's a reasonable cap for a single person is an unreasonable cap for a family of four or five, even just doing normal activities.
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You're watching Sports Night on CSC so stick around...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Time-to-regulate-as-a-utility-22458730 Thu, 28 May 2009 14:53:32 EDT Re: They better not or else http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-They-better-not-or-else-22458652 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-They-better-not-or-else-22458652 Thu, 28 May 2009 14:52:24 EDT Re: Time to regulate as a utility..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Time-to-regulate-as-a-utility-22458488
Once caps go in they will never go up but people will use more and more bandwidth as new better working products come on line so screw'em. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Time-to-regulate-as-a-utility-22458488 Thu, 28 May 2009 14:08:49 EDT Re: They better not or else http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-They-better-not-or-else-22458348 said by zoom314:

They better not or else people might get angrier than they are now.
Most people won't even notice. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-They-better-not-or-else-22458348 Thu, 28 May 2009 13:46:29 EDT Time to regulate as a utility..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Time-to-regulate-as-a-utility-22458214
These companies left on their own will not have consumer interests in mind....they are simply following in the footsteps of the financial institutions that have trashed our economy with the attitude of anything goes with regards to gouging!
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BF69~~~Please stop suffocating gerbils!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Time-to-regulate-as-a-utility-22458214 Thu, 28 May 2009 13:19:05 EDT They better not or else http://www.dslreports.com/forum/They-better-not-or-else-22458011 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/They-better-not-or-else-22458011 Thu, 28 May 2009 12:51:03 EDT