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me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO

reply to tmc8080

Re: isn't pursuit of metered billing a little like this?

Maybe good will come out of this. By good I mean new ISPs that give a crap about their costumers. IMHO small business>big business, the small business around here treat you almost like you are family. Maybe some co-ops would help.


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said by me1212:

Maybe good will come out of this. By good I mean new ISPs that give a crap about their costumers. IMHO small business>big business, the small business around here treat you almost like you are family. Maybe some co-ops would help.
Yes, this could be a good opportunity for small ISPs. One problem though: independent ISPs generally don't have true access to next gen networks. There's no resellers for U-verse, and the few FIOS resellers I've heard of are just reselling Verizon connectivity, so it's likely to be subject to the same bandwidth restrictions if they are imposed.

Check out Canada's experiences with metered billing to see how smaller ISPs were pretty much forced to comply.

So if you want unlimited, you're likely to be stuck with ADSL or ADSL2+ if you're really lucky on copper from the CO via Covad or some other CLEC. If you're serviced through an RT or are far from the CO you're in trouble. If Covad jumps on board with metered billing with the rest we're pretty much screwed.
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en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

I'd be going back to DSL-Extreme if they can keep unmetered billing



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Astoria, NY
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reply to djrobx
Small ISPs have to comply with whatever last mile provider they use. It's very sad in 2009 we're having this draconian metered system. Tons of price increases, ton's of new customers, ton's of new revenue streams.. And yet they still claim poverty, still claim there's so some sort of bandwidth crisis, but adding in new subscribers like no tomorrow.

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me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO

reply to djrobx
What about fixed wireless? The speed does not HAVE to be next gen, would you rather have a 50/? with a 250GB(or less) cap or a 5/?-10/? with no cap?



en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

Personally - I'd try fixed wireless if the price / bandwidth /caps (no cap) were decent.
Problem is that its hard to find, and typically not cheap.
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patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
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reply to me1212

said by me1212:

What about fixed wireless? The speed does not HAVE to be next gen, would you rather have a 50/? with a 250GB(or less) cap or a 5/?-10/? with no cap?
Fixed wireless is dead. All the equipment has "rape the business customer with allusions to SLA reliability" prices.

»www.google.com/products/catalog?···-sellers

What about spectrum? Verizon and ATT will buy anything that comes along, and sit on it for decades, kindda like Sprint is doing with its WiMAX spectrum. There is little to no spectrum except for ex-TV channels, and the media lobby groups are making sure whitespace is dead, and ATT/Verizon will buy anything that goes to auction, and with todays "fiscal responsibility" granting away spectrum on merit to small businesses is a political death penalty.

me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO

reply to en102
I know what you mean about price, I use a fixed wireless. Cost $45 a month for 512/128 I get about 500/256 94% of the time, with no cap.


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