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Topic 'Re: Open Your FiOS Network!' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22462796 en Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:08:22 EDT Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:08:22 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22728819
Cable companies through mergers, acquisitions, etc. have been eating up ailing if not any other reasons, content companies.. whats left is few and far between. It doesn't pay for telcos to try to p/u whats left cause ppl are so used to what is already in place out there, the only way to compete fair and square is, for an additional reasonable price or not, they have to open their network.. not just what they decide to pass over the satellite.

When phone co's wanted to offer the internet, they had to open their networks to competitors, did cable.. no. Cable cant have it both ways, if their going to provide phone services, they offer internet without having to open to competitors and I don't even care if they do cause competition should drive down price -- just open your content for a fair price and the arguments can be dropped.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22728819 Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:24:50 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22728776
On the argument of VZ FIOS being a monopoly.. As long as there is at least 1 competitor out there, ie: cable, maybe sat too, then VZ FIOS does not have a monopoly.

On the DSL Extreme route, I don't think its a good thing for VZ to have offered up. What if they change their mind later, is DSL Extreme just going to gracefully back down and hand over all their subs to VZ as FIOS customers? I'm not sure why they elected to go this route.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22728776 Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:11:52 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22475624 MF]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22475624 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 04:15:29 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22472604 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22472604 Sun, 31 May 2009 12:52:42 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22469823 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22469823 Sat, 30 May 2009 17:44:52 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22469807 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22469807 Sat, 30 May 2009 17:40:02 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22467784 said by fifty nine:

said by djrobx:

said by hottboiinnc:

ooooo One reseller... Big Deal!

It's a very big deal. Clearly Verizon is allowing resellers access, which is much more than we can say for AT&T and U-Verse.

Reseller, not resellers.
No, there are resellers. One is just very shy.

It is a very wise move on VZ's part - shields them from anti-trust crusaders (despite the fact they were given a monopoly per FCC, that won't stop pols from making headlines...). Its also a good business decision - shows they're not afraid of wholesale competition.

Lets hope that VZ continues to be smart, and offer lower-cost/lower-rate FIOS, is sensible when considering caps, and fixes their billing problems.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22467784 Sat, 30 May 2009 02:55:44 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22465820
We make exceptions to such rights to promote various things the government deems good, such as racial equality. The government has stated that it is its goal to promote competition between television providers. It doesn't sound as unreasonable as you're making it out to be.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22465820 Fri, 29 May 2009 18:04:39 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22465714 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22465714 Fri, 29 May 2009 17:43:00 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22465638 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22465638 Fri, 29 May 2009 17:28:55 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22465162 said by Skippy25:

So I can create a product / service who choose to sell it to who I want?

Can I exclude blacks, hispanics, and gays?

Can I contract it with a company that has the policy of selling it to only blacks, hispanics and gays?
Verizon is not a protected class.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22465162 Fri, 29 May 2009 15:56:02 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22465158 said by AGX :

said by fifty nine:

Because they are a cable company, not a phone company.

How is that different? CableCo and TeleCo are basically the same thing today.
The phone company was the beneficiary of many Government subsidies that helped them gain the stronghold they have today.

The cable company largely had to build their network on their own, and in many cases had to "pay to play" via concessions in the franchise agreements.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22465158 Fri, 29 May 2009 15:55:24 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22465157
Can I exclude blacks, hispanics, and gays?

Can I contract it with a company that has the policy of selling it to only blacks, hispanics and gays?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22465157 Fri, 29 May 2009 15:54:35 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22463956 said by fifty nine:

Because they are a cable company, not a phone company.
How is that different? CableCo and TeleCo are basically the same thing today.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22463956 Fri, 29 May 2009 14:57:43 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22463903 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22463903 Fri, 29 May 2009 12:41:57 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22463848 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22463848 Fri, 29 May 2009 12:34:49 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22463801 quote:

ooooo One reseller... Big Deal!

How many resellers does Buckeye Cable have for its service? 1 is better than none.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22463801 Fri, 29 May 2009 12:28:50 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22463544 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22463544 Fri, 29 May 2009 11:38:56 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22463412 said by ITALIAN926:

Sharing channels and sharing networks are two different things.
Cablevision has not spent 50billion dollars on msgHD.
The amount of money is irrelevant.

Cablevision developed a product and should be free to sell it to whoever it chooses to. Consumers always have a choice to get MSG HD, and that is to subscribe to Cable. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22463412 Fri, 29 May 2009 11:15:19 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22463407 said by djrobx:

said by hottboiinnc:

ooooo One reseller... Big Deal!

It's a very big deal. Clearly Verizon is allowing resellers access, which is much more than we can say for AT&T and U-Verse.
Reseller, not resellers. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22463407 Fri, 29 May 2009 11:14:21 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22463399 said by hottboiinnc:

ooooo One reseller... Big Deal!
It's a very big deal. Clearly Verizon is allowing resellers access, which is much more than we can say for AT&T and U-Verse.
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said by woooo :

You want cable companies to share their TV networks? How about you share your fiber network so competitors may enter the market. I can get twenty flavors of DSL but only one fiber connection.

What does one have to do with the other?
It's about exclusivity.

Cablevision owns the MSG channel. Verizon owns the FiOS network.

They each have decided to control where those products can be seen - i.e. MSG can be seen only on cable, not on FiOS, and Verizon doesn't open up the FiOS network to competitors as widely as they are mandated to do with the copper network.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22463256 Fri, 29 May 2009 10:52:54 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22463253 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22463253 Fri, 29 May 2009 10:52:21 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22463243 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22463243 Fri, 29 May 2009 10:50:59 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22463240 said by PoloDude:

1 more. Why isn't CV forced to open thier network to resellers?
Because they are a cable company, not a phone company.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22463240 Fri, 29 May 2009 10:50:27 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22463207 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22463207 Fri, 29 May 2009 10:44:44 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22463191
»DSL Extreme Launches Rebranded FiOS]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22463191 Fri, 29 May 2009 10:42:22 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22463055 said by PoloDude:

In some markets FiOS is open resellers. They are just not mandated to do so,or to do it at a reduced rate.
Where? Please provide links.
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You want cable companies to share their TV networks? How about you share your fiber network so competitors may enter the market. I can get twenty flavors of DSL but only one fiber connection.
What does one have to do with the other?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22462998 Fri, 29 May 2009 10:10:11 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22462901 1 more. Why isn't CV forced to open thier network to resellers?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22462901 Fri, 29 May 2009 09:52:18 EDT Re: Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22462894 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22462894 Fri, 29 May 2009 09:50:35 EDT Open Your FiOS Network! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22462796 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Open-Your-FiOS-Network-22462796 Fri, 29 May 2009 09:30:35 EDT