 DaveDudeNo Fear
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New Jersey
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| ATT is way ahead ATT is already GSM, so there is no conversion, they just follow the GSM upgrade path to LTE. So ATT can keep UMTS for a long while.
Verizon has to completely rebuild their network running a cdma network, with a GSM(LTE) network along side for quite awhile. They will suffer exactly like ATT, and Cingular did when they converted from tdma to GSM.
ATT is going to be the winner for a while. Oh Where is sprint ?
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| Sprint is busy building their WiMax Network. Which they're actually head even with only a few markets open. They're still ahead and have prove they are clearly the winners that care about rebuilding. |
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to DaveDude
HAHA. They don't even have much of a 3G network. In my state between Verizon, Sprint an at&t, at&t has the smallest coverage. About 98-99% of the people in my state can get Verizons 3G coverage. I'll see Verizon's 4G here YEARS before at&t bothers to offer it. |
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Alfred, ME
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Sprint is busy keeping quiet and silently pulling ahead. I believe they have some markets where there 4G is already deployed. Say what you will about there support, but there technical side has always been a night and day difference.
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said by DaveDude:ATT is already GSM, so there is no conversion, they just follow the GSM upgrade path to LTE. So ATT can keep UMTS for a long while. Verizon has to completely rebuild their network running a cdma network, with a GSM(LTE) network along side for quite awhile. They will suffer exactly like ATT, and Cingular did when they converted from tdma to GSM. ATT is going to be the winner for a while. Oh Where is sprint ? The question of who will be better or faster will not be a question of who has the "better network". Since carriers each have different signal strengths in different areas its going to be hit or miss. In today's wireless industry there could be 2 people either from the same company or different companies (most likely from different companies) where 1 person gets a good signal in one area and the other doesn't and in another area its visa versa. There is no "AT&T is better so I will stick with them" phrases. Try a carrier in your area, if you get good signal, then stick with them, else switch. In your 30 day trial you should be able to at least see if you get constant dropped calls or no signal in your house. |
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 jmn1207Premium
join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA | reply to BF69
said by BF69:HAHA. They don't even have much of a 3G network. In my state between Verizon, Sprint an at&t, at&t has the smallest coverage. About 98-99% of the people in my state can get Verizons 3G coverage. I'll see Verizon's 4G here YEARS before at&t bothers to offer it. Do you also blame the sun for not shining on your city as much as it does in San Diego? Sprint has a great 3G network, but it's not the best everywhere. The same can be said for all of the major wireless carriers. |
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DaveDudeNo Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
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said by k1ll3rdr4g0n:said by DaveDude:ATT is already GSM, so there is no conversion, they just follow the GSM upgrade path to LTE. So ATT can keep UMTS for a long while. Verizon has to completely rebuild their network running a cdma network, with a GSM(LTE) network along side for quite awhile. They will suffer exactly like ATT, and Cingular did when they converted from tdma to GSM. ATT is going to be the winner for a while. Oh Where is sprint ? There is no "AT&T is better so I will stick with them" phrases. Try a carrier in your area, if you get good signal, then stick with them, else switch. In your 30 day trial you should be able to at least see if you get constant dropped calls or no signal in your house. Well i am not saying ATT has a better network or anything like that and i agree with you. But ATT isnt going to have the growing pains of going LTE, that Verizon is going to have to do. ATT will spend alot less going LTE, then Verizon.
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to jmn1207
said by jmn1207:said by BF69:HAHA. They don't even have much of a 3G network. In my state between Verizon, Sprint an at&t, at&t has the smallest coverage. About 98-99% of the people in my state can get Verizons 3G coverage. I'll see Verizon's 4G here YEARS before at&t bothers to offer it. Do you also blame the sun for not shining on your city as much as it does in San Diego? Sprint has a great 3G network, but it's not the best everywhere. The same can be said for all of the major wireless carriers. Well as a potential customer yeah it kind of matters if a company has coverage in my area or not. Besides it a FACT that almost EVERYWHERE Verizon has better coverge. Try looking at a coverage map.
If you can see the map the yellow is Verizon 3G the orange is where there is Verizon and at&t 3G the red is at&t 3G only areas. I see far more yellow than red. |
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jmn1207Premium
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Ashburn, VA | Yes, and you were making disparaging comments regarding Sprint's coverage area, and I told you that Sprint has excellent 3G coverage. Sprint has the most CDMA roaming agreements, and an agreement with Verizon is included. |
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swintecPremium,VIP
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Alfred, ME
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| said by jmn1207:Sprint has the most CDMA roaming agreements, and an agreement with Verizon is included. Not for 3G data though. I assume because the coverage of both is to lop-sided, Verizon would make out in that deal far more than Sprint customers would.
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glinc
join:2009-04-07
New York, NY | reply to hottboiinnc
Wrong. Sprint is not building their WiMax Network....its the cable companies that are financing it and building it. |
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Interestingly enough, I have a sprint PDA 3G phone and a verizon 3G phone, and in the two towns in Tennessee I spend most of my time in (pop less than 30k), SPRINT was the first carrier to offer EVDO by about 3 months in both cities, beating out verizon. AT&T , heh, they just recently got EDGE here. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | reply to DaveDude
said by DaveDude:Verizon has to completely rebuild their network running a cdma network, with a GSM(LTE) network along side for quite awhile. They will suffer exactly like ATT, and Cingular did when they converted from tdma to GSM. ATT is going to be the winner for a while. Oh Where is sprint ? Its guaranteed Qualcomm will build a hybrid CDMA/LTE chipset. »www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2···hip.html
So There will be no ATT style TDMA to GSM problems, but im sure the typical 3g to 2g handoff call drop will be everywhere. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | reply to hottboiinnc
said by hottboiinnc:Sprint is busy building their WiMax Network. Which they're actually head even with only a few markets open. They're still ahead and have prove they are clearly the winners that care about rebuilding. Sprint isn't building anything, Clearwire is, and they have only upgraded one of they handfull of pre-wimax markets to wimax, this standard and this company are dead. The wimax standard is going to be popular as Motorola Canopy. |
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Verizon won’t have to rebuild their existing network. That is a myth spread by the number 2 wireless carrier. LTE is a totally different standard from CDMA and GSM. No matter what technology a company uses for voice they will be able to build and run a LTE network. And sprint is already live with their 4G. So It looks like ATT will be in third place when I comes to an all I{ network. |
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Verizon won’t have to rebuild their existing network. That is a myth spread by the number 2 wireless carrier. LTE is a totally different standard from CDMA and GSM. No matter what technology a company uses for voice they will be able to build and run a LTE network. And sprint is already live with their 4G. So It looks like ATT will be in third place when I comes to an all I{ network. |
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said by swintec:Sprint is busy keeping quiet and silently pulling ahead. I believe they have some markets where there 4G is already deployed. Say what you will about there support, but there technical side has always been a night and day difference. Um yeah okay. Keep telling yourself that. Sprint is a joke and WiMax won't save them. |
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Sprint has money invested in the network. They may not be building it on their name but it is also their network.
And Moto Canopy is a great product and widely used. This is the only country that isn't using WiMAX. Instead they're waiting on LTE to see if it works in the field. The same as this country has done with GSM. |
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