Give me true metered billing. -

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sharksfan3 Premium join:2004-02-16 Hyde Park, NY	Give me true metered billing. Charge me $10-$15/mo for the connection, then charge $.10-$.15 per GB. All will be happy!
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aaronwt Premium join:2004-11-07 Woodbridge, VA Reviews: ·Verizon FiOS	said by sharksfan3: Charge me $10-$15/mo for the connection, then charge $.10-$.15 per GB. All will be happy! Not at those high prices!
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RARPSL join:1999-12-08 Suffern, NY	reply to sharksfan3 said by sharksfan3: Charge me $10-$15/mo for the connection, then charge $.10-$.15 per GB. All will be happy! Based on their own price schedule, the connection should be $5 month. That is what they charge you more for Internet if you want no TV so that is what they compute their actual cost is (or why is the bundling discount only that amount)?
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iansltx_ @spcsdns.net	reply to aaronwt Did you forget sarcasm tags or are you serious? Because I think that pricing structure would be just fine,
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Matt All noise, no signal. Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12 1 edit	reply to sharksfan3 said by sharksfan3: Charge me $10-$15/mo for the connection, then charge $.10-$.15 per GB. All will be happy! Agreed. The problem with this is that their ARPU would plummet.
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aaronwt Premium join:2004-11-07 Woodbridge, VA Reviews: ·Verizon FiOS	reply to iansltx_ said by iansltx_ : Did you forget sarcasm tags or are you serious? Because I think that pricing structure would be just fine, I'm serious. I use 1TB to 2TB a month on average. A low month of 1TB would cost me $100 to $150 plus the $10 to $15 connection fee. I currently pay $90 a month for a FIOS 50/20 tier. I think 10 cents to 15 cents per GB is twice what I would even consider.
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Matt All noise, no signal. Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12	1-2 TB/month is in no way an average amount of usage. I pay .50 cents per GB in a high quality data center which doesn't have last mile expenses but also doesn't have the economy of scale that a large ISP does. If I wanted 1TB of transfer, I'd pay close to $1,000 dollars a month for bandwidth alone. So $.10-$.15 is already artifically low and although it would raise your pricing (which sucks) the proposed changes would very likely lower the average bill for most consumers.
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aaronwt Premium join:2004-11-07 Woodbridge, VA Reviews: ·Verizon FiOS	50 cents per GB is artificially high. It doesn't cost anywhere close to that price for them to provide it. said by Matt: 1-2 TB/month is in no way an average amount of usage. I pay .50 cents per GB in a high quality data center which doesn't have last mile expenses but also doesn't have the economy of scale that a large ISP does. If I wanted 1TB of transfer, I'd pay close to $1,000 dollars a month for bandwidth alone. So $.10-$.15 is already artifically low and although it would raise your pricing (which sucks) the proposed changes would very likely lower the average bill for most consumers.
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Matt All noise, no signal. Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12	said by aaronwt: 50 cents per GB is artificially high. It doesn't cost anywhere close to that price for them to provide it. said by Matt: 1-2 TB/month is in no way an average amount of usage. I pay .50 cents per GB in a high quality data center which doesn't have last mile expenses but also doesn't have the economy of scale that a large ISP does. If I wanted 1TB of transfer, I'd pay close to $1,000 dollars a month for bandwidth alone. So $.10-$.15 is already artifically low and although it would raise your pricing (which sucks) the proposed changes would very likely lower the average bill for most consumers. It may. They are multi-homed and have multiple redundant connections to each carrier. I agree they have ample profit built into that however. But every company (including the Evil ISP's ™) are allowed to make money. My point was more that .$10 to .$15 per GB is an extremely fair price. The large ISPs can still profit - although not to the tune of the thousands of a percent that they'd like - light users would pay much less and heavy users (unfortunately, that means you) would pay more. I don't like metered billing any more than the next guy, but if it's going to be implemented, let's implement it properly which means if you're consuming 1-2TB a month, you have to pay more than someone using 1-2GB per month. They should not (in a usage based billing model) subsidize you.
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me1212 join:2008-11-20 Pleasant Hill, MO	reply to Matt said by Matt: So $.10-$.15 is already artifically low and although it would raise your pricing (which sucks) the proposed changes would very likely lower the average bill for most consumers. I agree it would cost me about $60-$90 for 500GB internet. $10-$15 and $0.10-$0.15 per GB. If any ISP wants metered billing IMHO it should be like this: $10 for 5m/2.5 $15 for 10/5 and $0.10 per GB. a price that would actually make light users pay less and heavy pay more, not the lies they are giving us now.
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Matt All noise, no signal. Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12	It will never happen, but I think if the industry wants to move to metered billing, then there shouldn't be speed tiers at all. If I'm paying you by the byte, why should I be limited to 2Mbps? Of course, in practice, that would allow one person to bring a DOCSIS network to its knees, so it's a laughable hope at best.
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BF69 Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN	reply to sharksfan3 Even with metered electricity or water ( at least in my area ) there a minimum price you pay for so many kilowatts or gallons of water whether you use NONE or up to that limit. THEN you get charged by the kilowatt/gallon. Also the more you use the price per kilowatt/gallon DECREASES. So if these ISPs want to start metered billing they better do it correctly. Also my electricity and water are regulated do ISPs want to be regulated? Can't have your cake and eat it too. Don't use electricity and water as examples then dismiss the idea of regulation.
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RARPSL join:1999-12-08 Suffern, NY	said by BF69: Even with metered electricity or water ( at least in my area ) there a minimum price you pay for so many kilowatts or gallons of water whether you use NONE or up to that limit. THEN you get charged by the kilowatt/gallon. Also the more you use the price per kilowatt/gallon DECREASES. That decrease is done in graduated tiers (like Income Tax). IOW: You pay the fixed fee for the first W units, the $X/Unit for the next block of units, $Y/Unit for the the third block, and so forth. X is more then Y which is more than what you would pay per unit for going over the 3 tier limit. Also, if you the initial tier amount by the 2nd tier price it will/should be less than the fee to cover the cost of delivery/etc. I most cases, unless you use next to nothing, you are going to be paying for 2nd tier usage (IOW: The initial allocation is minimal and does not cover much actual usage).
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DataRiker Premium join:2002-05-19 00000 Reviews: ·RoadRunner Cable	reply to Matt .50 $ per Gigabyte is extremely expensive. Hosting services with everything you described above generally cost about 15.00 $ /per month with 6,500 + GB's transfer per month. You can also get unlimited transfer for not too much more. Actually I have never seen one that expensive before. (costs are more of course if you want a private dedicated server, but that is besides the point.)
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Matt All noise, no signal. Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12	said by DataRiker: .50 $ per Gigabyte is extremely expensive. Hosting services with everything you described above generally cost about 15.00 $ /per month with 6,500 + GB's transfer per month. You can also get unlimited transfer for not too much more. Actually I have never seen one that expensive before. (costs are more of course if you want a private dedicated server, but that is besides the point.) I don't deal with Joe's Low-Cost Data Centers Inc. Here is a very old Network Map: »www.nac.net/images/networkmaps/n···kmap.gif Here are the peers my provider is peered with: LINX Peering 1A Networks Akhter Computers AT&T Global Avensys Networks Ltd BBN Planet Belgacom CBU British Broadcasting Corporation British Telecom Cable Inet Cerbernet Chello Broadband Claranet Comdisco Cubecom S.p.A. Datagrama Demon Internet Easynet Ebone Netcom Eclipse Internet Eircom IP Networks Group Energis Esat-X eu-X EuroNet Firstnet Services Ltd FLAG Telecom Freedom 2 Surf plc Frontier Internet Services Limited Global Access Telecom Highspeed Office Limited Highway One I-Nap Limited ICL Internet Services Intelideas NOC Internet for Learning/Research Machines, Plc Interoute Telecommuncations Interweb Design Limited iPcenta Jippii Group European Backbone Kingston Infrastructure Lambdanet Communications Lycos Europe mediaways GmbH Microsoft Minstral Internet NetBenefit NetKonect Communications Ltd Netscalibur UK Ltd NewNet Nextra Nominum NTL Internet NTT Octacon Ltd. Opal Telecom PFM Communications, Inc Primustel Red net Schlund SITA Song Networks Oy Support Net bv Tele Danmark NET, NXN Tele2 AB Teletext VBCnet (GB) Ltd. Verio, Inc. Versatel Telecom International NV VIA NET.WORKS Deutschland GmbH Wirehub! Internet XO Communications European AS XTML Zoo Internet NYIIX Peering AboveNet COLT Internet Demon Internet Digital Island Globecomm, Inc. HarvardNet Hurricane Electric Intelligent Computer Solutions, Inc Japan Network Information Center Lightning Internet Services, LLC Maxim Computer Systems Corp. Mobilcom Cityline GmbH Nacamar NTL Internet Peer1 PFM Communications, Inc Primus Telecommunications Reach Networks Santa Cruz Community Internet Stealth Communications The Internet Solution Time Warner Communications, Inc. United Arab Emirates VillageWorld.com, Inc. Wirehub! Internet XO Communications European AS
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DataRiker Premium join:2002-05-19 00000 Reviews: ·RoadRunner Cable	said by Matt: said by DataRiker: .50 $ per Gigabyte is extremely expensive. Hosting services with everything you described above generally cost about 15.00 $ /per month with 6,500 + GB's transfer per month. You can also get unlimited transfer for not too much more. Actually I have never seen one that expensive before. (costs are more of course if you want a private dedicated server, but that is besides the point.) I don't deal with Joe's Low-Cost Data Centers Inc. Here is a very old Network Map: »www.nac.net/images/networkmaps/n···kmap.gif Here are the peers my provider is peered with: LINX Peering 1A Networks Akhter Computers AT&T Global Avensys Networks Ltd BBN Planet Belgacom CBU British Broadcasting Corporation British Telecom Cable Inet Cerbernet Chello Broadband Claranet Comdisco Cubecom S.p.A. Datagrama Demon Internet Easynet Ebone Netcom Eclipse Internet Eircom IP Networks Group Energis Esat-X eu-X EuroNet Firstnet Services Ltd FLAG Telecom Freedom 2 Surf plc Frontier Internet Services Limited Global Access Telecom Highspeed Office Limited Highway One I-Nap Limited ICL Internet Services Intelideas NOC Internet for Learning/Research Machines, Plc Interoute Telecommuncations Interweb Design Limited iPcenta Jippii Group European Backbone Kingston Infrastructure Lambdanet Communications Lycos Europe mediaways GmbH Microsoft Minstral Internet NetBenefit NetKonect Communications Ltd Netscalibur UK Ltd NewNet Nextra Nominum NTL Internet NTT Octacon Ltd. Opal Telecom PFM Communications, Inc Primustel Red net Schlund SITA Song Networks Oy Support Net bv Tele Danmark NET, NXN Tele2 AB Teletext VBCnet (GB) Ltd. Verio, Inc. Versatel Telecom International NV VIA NET.WORKS Deutschland GmbH Wirehub! Internet XO Communications European AS XTML Zoo Internet NYIIX Peering AboveNet COLT Internet Demon Internet Digital Island Globecomm, Inc. HarvardNet Hurricane Electric Intelligent Computer Solutions, Inc Japan Network Information Center Lightning Internet Services, LLC Maxim Computer Systems Corp. Mobilcom Cityline GmbH Nacamar NTL Internet Peer1 PFM Communications, Inc Primus Telecommunications Reach Networks Santa Cruz Community Internet Stealth Communications The Internet Solution Time Warner Communications, Inc. United Arab Emirates VillageWorld.com, Inc. Wirehub! Internet XO Communications European AS The quote above also has a redundant network, and 99.99 % up-time. Don't see your point, your simply paying many times too much
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Give me true metered billing.