Re: Give me true metered billing. -

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aaronwt Premium join:2004-11-07 Woodbridge, VA Reviews: ·Verizon FiOS	reply to iansltx_ Re: Give me true metered billing. said by iansltx_ : Did you forget sarcasm tags or are you serious? Because I think that pricing structure would be just fine, I'm serious. I use 1TB to 2TB a month on average. A low month of 1TB would cost me $100 to $150 plus the $10 to $15 connection fee. I currently pay $90 a month for a FIOS 50/20 tier. I think 10 cents to 15 cents per GB is twice what I would even consider.
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Matt All noise, no signal. Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12	1-2 TB/month is in no way an average amount of usage. I pay .50 cents per GB in a high quality data center which doesn't have last mile expenses but also doesn't have the economy of scale that a large ISP does. If I wanted 1TB of transfer, I'd pay close to $1,000 dollars a month for bandwidth alone. So $.10-$.15 is already artifically low and although it would raise your pricing (which sucks) the proposed changes would very likely lower the average bill for most consumers.
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aaronwt Premium join:2004-11-07 Woodbridge, VA Reviews: ·Verizon FiOS	50 cents per GB is artificially high. It doesn't cost anywhere close to that price for them to provide it. said by Matt: 1-2 TB/month is in no way an average amount of usage. I pay .50 cents per GB in a high quality data center which doesn't have last mile expenses but also doesn't have the economy of scale that a large ISP does. If I wanted 1TB of transfer, I'd pay close to $1,000 dollars a month for bandwidth alone. So $.10-$.15 is already artifically low and although it would raise your pricing (which sucks) the proposed changes would very likely lower the average bill for most consumers.
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Matt All noise, no signal. Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12	said by aaronwt: 50 cents per GB is artificially high. It doesn't cost anywhere close to that price for them to provide it. said by Matt: 1-2 TB/month is in no way an average amount of usage. I pay .50 cents per GB in a high quality data center which doesn't have last mile expenses but also doesn't have the economy of scale that a large ISP does. If I wanted 1TB of transfer, I'd pay close to $1,000 dollars a month for bandwidth alone. So $.10-$.15 is already artifically low and although it would raise your pricing (which sucks) the proposed changes would very likely lower the average bill for most consumers. It may. They are multi-homed and have multiple redundant connections to each carrier. I agree they have ample profit built into that however. But every company (including the Evil ISP's ™) are allowed to make money. My point was more that .$10 to .$15 per GB is an extremely fair price. The large ISPs can still profit - although not to the tune of the thousands of a percent that they'd like - light users would pay much less and heavy users (unfortunately, that means you) would pay more. I don't like metered billing any more than the next guy, but if it's going to be implemented, let's implement it properly which means if you're consuming 1-2TB a month, you have to pay more than someone using 1-2GB per month. They should not (in a usage based billing model) subsidize you.
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me1212 join:2008-11-20 Pleasant Hill, MO	reply to Matt said by Matt: So $.10-$.15 is already artifically low and although it would raise your pricing (which sucks) the proposed changes would very likely lower the average bill for most consumers. I agree it would cost me about $60-$90 for 500GB internet. $10-$15 and $0.10-$0.15 per GB. If any ISP wants metered billing IMHO it should be like this: $10 for 5m/2.5 $15 for 10/5 and $0.10 per GB. a price that would actually make light users pay less and heavy pay more, not the lies they are giving us now.
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Matt All noise, no signal. Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12	It will never happen, but I think if the industry wants to move to metered billing, then there shouldn't be speed tiers at all. If I'm paying you by the byte, why should I be limited to 2Mbps? Of course, in practice, that would allow one person to bring a DOCSIS network to its knees, so it's a laughable hope at best.
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DataRiker Premium join:2002-05-19 00000 Reviews: ·RoadRunner Cable	reply to Matt .50 $ per Gigabyte is extremely expensive. Hosting services with everything you described above generally cost about 15.00 $ /per month with 6,500 + GB's transfer per month. You can also get unlimited transfer for not too much more. Actually I have never seen one that expensive before. (costs are more of course if you want a private dedicated server, but that is besides the point.)
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Matt All noise, no signal. Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12	said by DataRiker: .50 $ per Gigabyte is extremely expensive. Hosting services with everything you described above generally cost about 15.00 $ /per month with 6,500 + GB's transfer per month. You can also get unlimited transfer for not too much more. Actually I have never seen one that expensive before. (costs are more of course if you want a private dedicated server, but that is besides the point.) I don't deal with Joe's Low-Cost Data Centers Inc. Here is a very old Network Map: »www.nac.net/images/networkmaps/n···kmap.gif Here are the peers my provider is peered with: LINX Peering 1A Networks Akhter Computers AT&T Global Avensys Networks Ltd BBN Planet Belgacom CBU British Broadcasting Corporation British Telecom Cable Inet Cerbernet Chello Broadband Claranet Comdisco Cubecom S.p.A. Datagrama Demon Internet Easynet Ebone Netcom Eclipse Internet Eircom IP Networks Group Energis Esat-X eu-X EuroNet Firstnet Services Ltd FLAG Telecom Freedom 2 Surf plc Frontier Internet Services Limited Global Access Telecom Highspeed Office Limited Highway One I-Nap Limited ICL Internet Services Intelideas NOC Internet for Learning/Research Machines, Plc Interoute Telecommuncations Interweb Design Limited iPcenta Jippii Group European Backbone Kingston Infrastructure Lambdanet Communications Lycos Europe mediaways GmbH Microsoft Minstral Internet NetBenefit NetKonect Communications Ltd Netscalibur UK Ltd NewNet Nextra Nominum NTL Internet NTT Octacon Ltd. Opal Telecom PFM Communications, Inc Primustel Red net Schlund SITA Song Networks Oy Support Net bv Tele Danmark NET, NXN Tele2 AB Teletext VBCnet (GB) Ltd. Verio, Inc. Versatel Telecom International NV VIA NET.WORKS Deutschland GmbH Wirehub! Internet XO Communications European AS XTML Zoo Internet NYIIX Peering AboveNet COLT Internet Demon Internet Digital Island Globecomm, Inc. HarvardNet Hurricane Electric Intelligent Computer Solutions, Inc Japan Network Information Center Lightning Internet Services, LLC Maxim Computer Systems Corp. Mobilcom Cityline GmbH Nacamar NTL Internet Peer1 PFM Communications, Inc Primus Telecommunications Reach Networks Santa Cruz Community Internet Stealth Communications The Internet Solution Time Warner Communications, Inc. United Arab Emirates VillageWorld.com, Inc. Wirehub! Internet XO Communications European AS
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DataRiker Premium join:2002-05-19 00000 Reviews: ·RoadRunner Cable	said by Matt: said by DataRiker: .50 $ per Gigabyte is extremely expensive. Hosting services with everything you described above generally cost about 15.00 $ /per month with 6,500 + GB's transfer per month. You can also get unlimited transfer for not too much more. Actually I have never seen one that expensive before. (costs are more of course if you want a private dedicated server, but that is besides the point.) I don't deal with Joe's Low-Cost Data Centers Inc. Here is a very old Network Map: »www.nac.net/images/networkmaps/n···kmap.gif Here are the peers my provider is peered with: LINX Peering 1A Networks Akhter Computers AT&T Global Avensys Networks Ltd BBN Planet Belgacom CBU British Broadcasting Corporation British Telecom Cable Inet Cerbernet Chello Broadband Claranet Comdisco Cubecom S.p.A. Datagrama Demon Internet Easynet Ebone Netcom Eclipse Internet Eircom IP Networks Group Energis Esat-X eu-X EuroNet Firstnet Services Ltd FLAG Telecom Freedom 2 Surf plc Frontier Internet Services Limited Global Access Telecom Highspeed Office Limited Highway One I-Nap Limited ICL Internet Services Intelideas NOC Internet for Learning/Research Machines, Plc Interoute Telecommuncations Interweb Design Limited iPcenta Jippii Group European Backbone Kingston Infrastructure Lambdanet Communications Lycos Europe mediaways GmbH Microsoft Minstral Internet NetBenefit NetKonect Communications Ltd Netscalibur UK Ltd NewNet Nextra Nominum NTL Internet NTT Octacon Ltd. Opal Telecom PFM Communications, Inc Primustel Red net Schlund SITA Song Networks Oy Support Net bv Tele Danmark NET, NXN Tele2 AB Teletext VBCnet (GB) Ltd. Verio, Inc. Versatel Telecom International NV VIA NET.WORKS Deutschland GmbH Wirehub! Internet XO Communications European AS XTML Zoo Internet NYIIX Peering AboveNet COLT Internet Demon Internet Digital Island Globecomm, Inc. HarvardNet Hurricane Electric Intelligent Computer Solutions, Inc Japan Network Information Center Lightning Internet Services, LLC Maxim Computer Systems Corp. Mobilcom Cityline GmbH Nacamar NTL Internet Peer1 PFM Communications, Inc Primus Telecommunications Reach Networks Santa Cruz Community Internet Stealth Communications The Internet Solution Time Warner Communications, Inc. United Arab Emirates VillageWorld.com, Inc. Wirehub! Internet XO Communications European AS The quote above also has a redundant network, and 99.99 % up-time. Don't see your point, your simply paying many times too much
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