 RickezGoinginsane
join:2000-09-02
Three Rivers, MA | Current customers Why can't these companies strive with current subscriptions to service?
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | They want more money. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | reply to Rickez
The only way to grow revenue doing so is to increase cost to the consumer. Are you interested in paying more per month? |
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 en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
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While companies can 'survive' on current subscriptions - the reality is that no business is out there to merely survive.
If they don't beat the competition or grow on their own accord,
a) Competition will beat them (force them into BK)
b) Investors will pull their money and find a more attractive (higher profit making) company to invest in. |
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 jmn1207Premium
join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA | reply to Rickez
said by Rickez:Why can't these companies strive with current subscriptions to service? Any publicly traded company has to grow, or promise to grow, in order to gain investment dollars to support their business. |
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said by Rickez:Why can't these companies strive with current subscriptions to service? Do you buy stock to have it stay the same value?
Absolutely not. You buy stock to have it appreciate in value.
The only way to have it appreciate in value is to grow. |
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 wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY | reply to Rickez
said by Rickez:Why can't these companies strive with current subscriptions to service? Its probably best if you re-think that statement....
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 baineschile2600 ways to livePremium
join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI
 ·Comcast
 ·magicjack.com
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said by openbox9:The only way to grow revenue doing so is to increase cost to the consumer. Are you interested in paying more per month? Not true at all. You could decrease operating costs as well, while keeping prices steady. But most people WANT more HD and D3, which is why those costs havent gone down. |
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 kapilThe Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL | reply to jmn1207
said by jmn1207:Any publicly traded company has to grow, or promise to grow, in order to gain investment dollars to support their business. Aah. The fundamental flaw in capitalism that we seem to gloss over all too often as we're busy blaming all the ills of this world on communism.
What goes up must come down, as they say...companies can't grow forever. Expecting them to do that is unrealistic....and it's those unrealistic expectations that have landed us in our current economic turmoil.
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said by me1212:They want more money. Hence the reason for the "cap and overcharge" argument put forth by the carriers.
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Free-market capitalism has nothing to do with our current economic situation. Crony-capitalism, mercantilism, and socialism are to blame. |
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OwlSaverOwlSaverPremium
join:2005-01-30
Berwyn, PA Reviews:
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Actually, it is not really so bad. Companies come and companies go. Early on a company grows very fast, but then it reaches a large size. At this large size, it cannot adapt, it just milks profit by small adjustments or acquisition. Then, along comes a smaller and nimbler company.
For cable/telco/tv/movies, the smaller and nimbler company will be an internet based tv network. YouTube is fun for a while, but it is not the same as tuning in to watch Law and Order (fill in your favorite entertainment) each week.
Some creative entrepreneur is going to create a Web only tv network. It probably already exists. There just needs to be an easy way to ply your cat five cable into the back of your tv set and use the tuner metaphor to browse the web for entertainment.
So, while Comcast cannot grow forever, some other company can grow to take its place. Life goes on. |
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kapilThe Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL | reply to capitalist
said by capitalist :
Free-market capitalism has nothing to do with our current economic situation.
No?
Management of a company has a fiduciary responsibility to guarantee profits and appreciating stock prices....at the peril of everything else....employees, society, nation. A CEO can actually get in trouble if puts the environment, or employee well being above company profits.
The fundamental principal of capitalism is profit for investors. And investors seek growth. It's a catch 22....and one that's been killing this country.
The whole system is broken. The wretched investors who "demand profit" are pension funds and insurance companies...who need those profits to fund insurance payouts, retiree benefits and what not. So it's hard to place all the blame on them.
The management is doing what it was hired to do...turn a profit.
Employees just want a paycheck to pay off their 60" LCD TV.
...and consumers want to buy that damn 60" TV, even if they can't afford it.
The whole damn system has been rotting from the inside out for decades.
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | reply to S_engineer
Actually TW's CEO said that is was to fight off internet video, he even said so in the article they have here on DSLR today. |
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kapilThe Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL | reply to OwlSaver
said by OwlSaver:So, while Comcast cannot grow forever, some other company can grow to take its place. Life goes on. Yes, in theory. But what really happens is that companies pay millions for marketing and lobbying and live well past their "fresh until" date, Terry Schiavo style. That's one hell of a bastardized and perverted way to practice capitalism.
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | "Yes, in theory. But what really happens is that companies pay millions for marketing and lobbying and live well past their "fresh until" date, Terry Schiavo style. That's one hell of a bastardized and perverted way to practice capitalism."
I know we need to stop the companies to stop lobbing to skrew the little guy and let them live on their own with no Government life line. |
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Andy S
join:2009-05-14
Stockbridge, GA | reply to fifty nine
said by fifty nine:said by Rickez:Why can't these companies strive with current subscriptions to service? Do you buy stock to have it stay the same value? Absolutely not. You buy stock to have it appreciate in value. The only way to have it appreciate in value is to grow. Actually your investment can still "grow" without it appreciating in value by dividend reinvestment. I have had stocks that keep thier same value but pay nice dividends. Your thinking of Growth stocks.
Capitolism with no restraint can be as bad as communism with no restraint.
Stock value is nothing more than an arbitrary number that people "believe" it is worth. That is why the market is always in flux. |
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KearnstdElf WizardPremium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to kapil
said by kapil:said by capitalist :
Free-market capitalism has nothing to do with our current economic situation.
No? Management of a company has a fiduciary responsibility to guarantee profits and appreciating stock prices....at the peril of everything else....employees, society, nation. A CEO can actually get in trouble if puts the environment, or employee well being above company profits. The fundamental principal of capitalism is profit for investors. And investors seek growth. It's a catch 22....and one that's been killing this country. The whole system is broken. The wretched investors who "demand profit" are pension funds and insurance companies...who need those profits to fund insurance payouts, retiree benefits and what not. So it's hard to place all the blame on them. The management is doing what it was hired to do...turn a profit. Employees just want a paycheck to pay off their 60" LCD TV. ...and consumers want to buy that damn 60" TV, even if they can't afford it. The whole damn system has been rotting from the inside out for decades. which is why VZN investors where hating FIOS, it was all cost and no instant money even if its long term is lower operating costs and higher profit per sub.
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Better product, more services, cheaper rate.
No brainer.
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NormanSPremium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
kudos:4 Reviews:
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said by kapil:The whole damn system has been rotting from the inside out for decades. More like millennia ... all the way back to the Mesopotamian God-Kings.
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