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 Hayward K A R - 1 2 0 CPremium
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4 edits | Hurricane preparedness the comment thread Always amazizes me how many who never have stay out significant hurricannes with no idea of what they might be, or even a few cans of tuna and some water.
And in my case a full bag of dog food too, though he loves tuna, if I have enough 
We may party the first few hours, but anyone that been in Key West long soon hunkers down and takes them very seriously, if we actualy ARE going to have a significant impact..
Though he and I treaded water out to lost vehicle still inches above water in Wilma when NOTHING in the house was.
Well O kitchen counter still were, but BIG dog, he would be very unconfortable up there if I could get him there.... so would I... both konked out on the rear deck of the Cushman was much more comfortable. His only quest was why are you back here with me and we aren't going for a ride somewhere
But again was glad to see the Red Cross and others come by within 24 hours (probably not if N.Orl. Katrina the month before hadn't happeded) and thank you very much no don't need food or water but the mop, bucket and bleach could come in handy.
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| said by Hayward: We may party the first few hours, but anyone that been in Key West long soon hunkers down and takes them very seriously, if we actualy ARE going to have a significant impact.. Good timing..we're about to launch into "season"
There's never a better time than the present to prepare.
This time of year I'm usually using up my freezer food, and stocking up on bottled water & canned goods & batteries.
Don't wait for the stores to be out of something with last minute shoppers.
If anyone is in an area subject to hurricanes or any other weather disturbances, I recommend you read this.
Lots of good suggestions and info.
»Hurricane Preparedness
As always, more technical forecast type threads belong in:
»Weather
..but anything that affects us (as a community of members) in what to do, how to do it or when to do it is welcomed here
So are contributions to our FAQ. 
...and cans of tuna for Hayward's dog 
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1 edit | And honestly I usually have enough food around the house, but trip to the grocery store is more often than not, initiated by Dog bag of food is getting low.
And in a hurricane ALWAYS a full one of them too days before even if most of one still left. Because if I do decide to bug out, that bag will still be needed, bcause very likely from the Keys you will be going in to an potentially impacted area with store runs on... allows you to concentrate on a place to stay and get there.
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 sfogliatelleWe Is Whut We AmPremium
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Baton Rouge, LA | reply to Hayward
Re: Hurricane preparedness (humorous parody)
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We're about to enter the peak of the hurricane season. Any minute now, you're going to turn on the TV and see a weather person pointing to some radar blob out in the Atlantic Ocean and making two basic meteorological points.
(1) There is no need to panic.
(2) We could all be killed.
Yes, hurricane season is an exciting time to be in Florida. If you're new to the area, you're probably wondering what you need to do to prepare for the possibility that we'll get hit by "the big one."
Based on our insurance industry experiences, we recommend that you follow this simple three-step hurricane preparedness plan:
STEP 1:
Buy enough food and bottled water to last your family for at least three days.
STEP 2:
Put these supplies into your car.
STEP 3:
Drive to Nebraska and remain there until Halloween. Unfortunately, statistics show that most people will not follow this sensible plan. Most people will foolishly stay here in Florida.
We'll start with one of the most important hurricane preparedness items:
HOMEOWNERS' INSURANCE:
If you own a home, you must have hurricane insurance. Fortunately, this insurance is cheap and easy to get, as long as your home meets two basic requirements:
(1) It is reasonably well-built, and
(2) It is located in Wisconsin
Unfortunately, if your home is located in Florida, or any other area that might actually be hit by a hurricane, most insurance companies would prefer not to sell you hurricane insurance, because then they might be required to pay YOU money, and that is certainly not why they got into the insurance business in the first place. So you'll have to scrounge around for an insurance company, which will charge you an annual premium roughly equal to the replacement value of your house. At any moment, this company can drop you like used dental floss.
SHUTTERS:
Your house should have hurricane shutters on all the windows, all the doors. There are several types of shutters, with advantages and disadvantages:
1)Plywood shutters: The advantage is that, because you make them yourself, they're cheap.
2)Sheet-metal shutters: The advantage is that these work well, once you get them all up. The disadvantage is that once you get them all up, your hands will be useless bleeding stumps, and it will be December.
3)Roll-down shutters: The advantages are that they're very easy to use, and will definitely protect your house. The disadvantage is that you will have to sell your house to pay for them.
4)Hurricane-proof windows: These are the newest wrinkle in hurricane protection: They look like ordinary windows, but they can withstand hurricane winds! You can be sure of this, because the salesman says so. He lives in Nebraska.
HURRICANE PROOFING your property:
As the hurricane approaches, check your yard for movable objects like barbecue grills, planters, patio furniture, visiting relatives, etc... You should, as a precaution, throw these items into your swimming pool (if you don't have a swimming pool,
you should have one built immediately). Otherwise, the hurricane winds will turn these objects into deadly missiles.
EVACUATION ROUTE:
If you live in a low-lying area, you should have an evacuation route planned out. (To determine whether you live in a low-lying area, look at your driver's license; if it says "Florida," you live in a low-lying area). The purpose of having an evacuation route is to avoid being trapped in your home when a major storm hits. Instead, you will be trapped in a gigantic traffic jam several miles from your home, along with two hundred thousand other evacuees. So, as a bonus, you will not be lonely.
HURRICANE SUPPLIES:
If you don't evacuate, you will need a mess of supplies. Do not buy them now! Florida tradition requires that you wait until the last possible minute, then go to the supermarket and get into vicious fights with strangers over who gets the last can of SPAM. In addition to food and water, you will need the following supplies:
1) 23 flashlights.
2)At least $167 worth of batteries that turn out, when the power goes off, to be the wrong size for the flashlights.
3)Bleach. (No, I don't know what the bleach is for. NOBODY knows what the bleach is for, but it's traditional, so GET some!)
4)A big knife that you can strap to your leg. (This will be useless in a hurricane, but it looks cool.)
5)A large quantity of raw chicken, to placate the alligators. (Ask anybody who went through Andrew; after the hurricane, there WILL be irate alligators.)
6)$35,000 in cash or diamonds so that, after the hurricane passes, you can buy a generator from a man with no discernible teeth.
Of course these are just basic precautions. As the hurricane draws near, it is vitally important that you keep abreast of the situation by turning on your television and watching TV reporters in rain slickers stand right next to the ocean and tell you over and over how vitally important it is for everybody to stay away from the ocean.
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I'm almost able to breathe again... | |
Hayward K A R - 1 2 0 CPremium
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Re: Hurricane preparedness the comment thread Just to nudge this back up... there is a not so little disturbance in the SW Carribean... only a 30% chance of development... and from that spot most likely to go straight up into the Gulf.
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Labelle, FL | Hayward what do you think about your emergency managers?
Are they finally listening to people like you?
John
Florida Keys may ease hurricane-evacuation policy
With better forecasting and communications, emergency managers consider easing up on evacuating tourists for every hurricane threat.
»www.miamiherald.com/news/southfl···787.html
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Hayward K A R - 1 2 0 CPremium
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3 edits | said by jmpenguin:Hayward what do you think about your emergency managers? Are they finally listening to people like you? John Florida Keys may ease hurricane-evacuation policy With better forecasting and communications, emergency managers consider easing up on evacuating tourists for every hurricane threat. » www.miamiherald.com/news/southfl···787.html No not at all... just because there is a HUGE difference between new comers who have no clue.... even for a 1 or 2 cat... and been through many. Cat thres is definately the Edge.... actually intended to leave for Wilma, but loosing wallet didn't... That is about the most I ever want to be through.... 70& of island under feet of salt water.... but not old town that is why it is where it is.
But just auto evacuating... because they say so.... NOOOOO.
IKE a prime example many it coming at us as Cat 4, were real scared, but again with modern WX teck, saw it diving south into Cub.... that would much diminish it.... and did... passed through our south here Cat 1-min 2 winds.... as I could see it would likely do...... and at teh sam time being a little FAT isnd a surge is most like to just flow around us (or Wilma maybe even worse)
But you are on shore with nothing but high land about you what do thing is going to happen just like Katrina a HUGE pile up and fluch back.
And lets go back to the 2004 Indiaqn Ocean Tsunami.... where it hit high main land major impact and devestation.... when it could actualy be warned about..... Kenya was evacuated, probably because of the BS politics Somalia was not.... muct bigger fatality.
And the another possibility was the Maldavia Islands.... much like the Keys.... middle of water, and easy to flow around... or QUICKLY was over.....and not pile up and not backwash too.
Which is what got us with Wilma the very shallow Gulf/FL Bay.... hurricane was over, but when Wilma hit Mainland (of course at high tide..... all that surge came washing bach down the bay with few outlets.
Also a good thing at least when the flood happened didn't have to deal with hurricane force winds as well.
Again many TV Doc's I have seen on it never heard of major impacts or deaths on the Maldavia's.
Now the MORONS in Galviston, with nothng in the way (but oil rigs) and with nay ways out (we have ONE 150 road often into a storm coming from the east) As most in NO in 2005 didn't is mind boggling.
ANd Katria could have been MUCH worse.... at leat it dropped back to Cat 3 min 4 form the 5 it was.... when it took its unexpected detour to KW going 1-2.... and ONLY time ever not a tourisdt evacuation... unless you were up after midnight no one knew it was coming.
And just to prove you can NEVER please a tourist.... what do you mean there is no power for under 24 hours.... at least you were't chased out... OK no AC anywhere but still pleny of Generator ice and cold drinks what's the big issue???
And with modern forecasting that is just it PAY ATTENTION.....
Keys have no had a storm fatality sing Hurricane Georges in 98 and both were people being stupid in mid storm... trying to save a boat ets.
But the again pardon my language 100's of MORONS in NO, and Galviston with many l;ast ways out did not.... obvoiusly guess they never took high shool physics.
Water does not compress and has no way to go it piles up, and up as long as wind pushes it.... no question about it, again vs a small island it might flow around or short term flood.
Our worst was Wilma on the flood count in MANY, many years, beut because of the geography came and went in uder 6 hours.
VERY Major damage even then.... but not like Katrina or or IKE.... people just not paying attention to physics and reality... and again with nay ways out not just ONE road, often into the approaching storm (US 1)
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Here's what I think about it as a Florida coast native, it is YOUR responsibility to determine what you are going to do and do it. Don't expect anyone to come save you if you don't plan. Contrary to what has attempted to be done lately (at great disaster) the Governments job is simply to provide the warnings and assist in restoring infrastructure after the storm. If you are in an area that you know will need to be evacuated, leave a day early! If you plan to stay in place, you should already have your supplies, if not get them NOW!
For me I stay in place, and if you were to check my supplies at anytime year round, I have food for two weeks. I also have a well for water, and if all else fails I have a pitcher pump to operate it. So my theory is to protect the fort and circle the wagons.
That may not be the best choice for others, so you should think about what you need to do and when. My parents had made the choice to stay a while back when (I think) Bertha was threatening, then my Mom had second thoughts after the evacuation of the entire East coast of Florida was ordered. She started debating evacuation, I quickly squelched her by telling her evacuation was no longer an option. After the order was given there was no way to leave if you wanted to.
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1 edit | And then again there is on the mainland where yu have many ways out a SENSIBLE choice.
A few years back though, I think during the 2004 back to back same palth Frances and Jeanne.... second time around told the same people to head inland to Orlando ..... well these Jupiterites lved up to the fool me one shame on you and didn't do the second shame on me.....still right in the path but higher ground...traffic and accomodation hell.... that makes any sane sense.
Saw what was going on and said Heck if wee are putting themselves farther in front of it....this time we are going to Key West.... no traffic at all.... all the Lemmings were headed to Disnyworld once again.... and they had a wonderful few days down here.... with non of the hassles.
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