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Logan 5
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REboot... REboot....REboot.

It seems like every time you turn around lately, some movie franchise or another is trying to "reinvent" it's self by 'rebooting' the franchise. This is usually accomplished by bringing writers, producers and directors not known for the franchise as well as casting relative unknown actors in key roles.

The latest franchise to be "rebooted" is the Alien franchise....

»www.darkhorizons.com/news/14259/···reboot-/

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Music video director Carl Erik Rinsch is rumored to be helming a potential and totally unnecessary reboot/prequel to the "Alien" franchise for 20th Century Fox.

Story details are unknown but sources say the idea is to return to the formula of the first film (one alien, one ship) and the film could be a non-Ripley involved film set before the events on the Nostromo in Ridley Scott's 1979 "Alien" to avoid both continuity problems and the scorn of the franchise's fans who'd be very vocally disapproving of a straight up remake.

Sources also claim that Michael Costigan, Ridley Scott and Tony Scott are all on board to produce. At last report back in April, Scott was said to be "toying around with the idea" of another "Alien" film.

Fox's planned reboot of the "Predator" film franchise with Robert Rodriguez announced the other month, combined with the successful relaunch of the "Star Trek" film franchise which also kicked off with its first film in 1979, has understandably led credibility to such a rumor.
I can't wait for the "Reboot" of such classics as the 80's "Flash Gordon" or "spaceballs"........ Pick your crappiest moview of all time and eventually there will be a reboot for it if there isn't one already...


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said by Logan 5:

I can't wait for the "Reboot" of such classics as the 80's "Flash Gordon" ...
Guess you missed »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_Gord···07-08.29


Logan 5
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yep... I remember that stinking pile of....

I was referring to Movies only but TV series are an even crappier example... In most cases, making a TV series 'reboot' of a movie means they probably couldn't trust themselves to make it in to a movie again b/c they know it would suck badly a 2nd time....

All the movie studios are now looking closely at the successes of the JJ Abrams Trek movie and seeing $$$ in their eyes.....

Just more crap to avoid seeing in the coming years I guess.



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I read somewhere recently that they're looking at doing a Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie. Unsure if it will be based on the TV show (which came after the original move) or if it will be a brand-new reboot.

Yeah, I'm kind of sick of hearing the whole reboot thing. But with the success of Star Trek and Battlestar Galactica, it's an inevitable evil we're gonna be stuck with for some time.

As for Alien, I've only seen 3 and 4 in their entirety. I've not gotten through 1 nor 2....just didn't get into them for some reason. Say 3 in the theater with some friends and I don't remember why I watched 4.



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Alien and the Aliens (the second one) were excellent. I saw the second Alien movie at the theatre.

As for them reboots, yes I agree with everyone that it is sickening and maddening. Prime example, Halloween and Friday the 13th were reboots (and a waste). And no, I didn't bother going to see it or waste my bandwidth on them load of excrement.
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I'm bored and since this is my thread (RHIP) I say lets make a list of all the franchise movie "reboots" in the span of +/- 10 years, and lets debate if they've sucked or nor and why...

I'm talking about ONLY those TV or Movie franchises that have taken (or will take) their IP in a completely different direction in an attempt to reinvent it and as such have ruined (or may ruin) the franchise and may (or already have) dilute the already watered down IP with another crap movie or direct-to-tv adaptation.

In keeping with this forum, Sci-Fi, Fantasy & Horror movies/series only please.

My picks in no particular order:

- Texas Chainsaw Massacre:
The latest one was a piece of crap prequel that tried to tell the back story of "why leatherface".
»www.imdb.com/title/tt0324216/

- Star Trek:
Yea Yea, it's doing better then the prior 2 trek movies combined but still no where near "Titanic-esque" numbers or the hype surrounding a movie from the 'god' JJ Abrams... an above average story for a change but not stellar..
»www.imdb.com/title/tt0796366/

- Batman:
The Dark Knight corrected an imbalance that has been growing since the 2nd Batman movie.
»www.imdb.com/title/tt0468569/

- The Hulk:
They've all sucked... period. Even trying to "Make Hulk LESS angry" in the last one didn't help it much..
»www.imdb.com/find?s=all&q=the+hulk&x=0&y=0

Your turn, let's see what 'yall can come up with..


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I think the latest Hulk film was GREAT!



Unlike the other ones, it had a good script, storyline, writing, and acting.

The big green guy isn't for everyone and there will be people who hate ANY Hulk film so...



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One more:

- Lost In Space
All I can say is....ugh it Stars Matt LeBlanc who went on to fame as Joey on Friends... that should be enough right there..
»www.imdb.com/title/tt0120738/



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said by Logan 5:

One more:

- Lost In Space
All I can say is....ugh it Stars Matt LeBlanc who went on to fame as Joey on Friends... that should be enough right there..
»www.imdb.com/title/tt0120738/
LIS could have been alot better. The whole premise was bad, "Oh my the world is a stinking piece of cr@p". Yes LeBlanc was not that good but he was a he11 lot better then William Hurt. The reboot lost me when they did the big reveal of the new J2. After that I lost most if not all interest. At least with the new Star Trek reboot The ships were fairly recognizable.

Now what we need is a reboot of Village of the Giants.


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Logan5, Star Trek is now in the top 100 domestic grossing box office films of all time.
Matt Leblanc, stared in LIS in 1998, he was in friends from 1994 to 2004.
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IMO Star Trek is only succeeding on its humor, which mostly hits the mark. It's doing better than the last two because they were utter crap. The new story is fairly lame, and it would have been better as a straight prequel. This was a reboot just to have a reboot. IMO stories that take place in a non-comic book universe (i.e. supposed to be some version of a consistent reality) generally don't reboot well.

Non-comic book reboots:
-James Bond: Casino Royale was fairly good, Quantum of Solace alternated between hyperkinetic and boring. There's never been any real consistency between installments and James Bond is almost a comic book character anyway.
-Battlestar Galactica: A huge improvement, although that's not saying that much since the original sucked canal water.

In the 90s were some TV sitcom reboots:
-Addams Family: the first two with Raul Julia were seriously funny.
-Beverly Hillbillies: a few laughs but mostly a miss.
-The Brady Bunch: worked pretty well as a self-parody.

Comic book stories are a special case since they have rebooted ever since there's been comic books, so it's expected for the genre and no biggie. The stories are mostly independent and character-driven. Some work, some don't. Batman worked well.

More comic book reboots:
-Superman Returns: OK but not outstanding.
-Spider-Man: Great, especially the first one.
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said by Daarken:

Star Trek is now in the top 100 domestic grossing box office films of all time.
Every new movie has a decent chance of doing that because of inflation. It's meaningless marketing. They need to go by number of tickets, but then they wouldn't be able to keep claiming this with every new movie.
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Not sure if they're reboots or just remakes:

War of the Worlds with Tom Cruise

The Day the Earth Stood Still with Keanu Reeves

I haven't seen the second one but neither of these classics needed to be remade.

Oh. Add "The Fog" to the list, too. The remake was just dumb.


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I too dislike reboots, and we are not alone.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPXBkYWeqmc
it has a few bad words.

And space balls got a reboot, in the form a cartoon on G4.


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I agree the War of the Worlds Tom Cruise was an utter POS. Dont forget the C. Thomas Howell version was worse than awful on the Sky Fy channel.
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said by mech1164:

Now what we need is a reboot of Village of the Giants.
I think that it was called Land of the Giants. I loved that show as a kid.


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Land of the Lost with Will Farrell, enough said.
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Land of the Giants was an Irwin Allen series in the 60's

»www.imdb.com/title/tt0062578/

Village of the Giants was a movie better know for who child star, of child of a star was in it.

»www.imdb.com/title/tt0062578/

BTW Gotta love the Paper mache legs and busts.



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said by Boricua:

Land of the Lost with Will Farrell, enough said.
Not that big of a Wil Farrell fan here. Have to say though it looks like a winner. Hope that there are more then what has been shown in the trailer.


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Since we're talking stinking piles of reboots, how about...

Godzilla? Now, THAT was a steaming pile of hell.

»www.imdb.com/title/tt0120685/



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said by Logan 5:

- Batman:
The Dark Knight corrected an imbalance that has been growing since the 2nd Batman movie.
»www.imdb.com/title/tt0468569/
I generally disliked the Batman movies up to the last 2. which IMO made Batman a damn good movie again, with TDK being the best.


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I'm not a big fan of reboots/remakes but I thought the last Hulk movie was good. And the last 2 Batman movies were very good. The original with Michael Keaton and Jack Nicholson was also very good.

I can't think of any others that I really liked, but I'm workin' on it.

Edit: Doh! Battlestar Galactica, my second favorite TV show ever, was a reboot/remake. I minimized the browser, saw my "BSG Last Supper" wallpaper, and remembered.
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Mark Wahlberg, or Charlton Heston?

Planet Of The Apes
»www.imdb.com/title/tt0133152/



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Making this a sticky for a while....seems to have touched a nerve



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IMO, there has been 1 case of a TV show based on a movie being better then the movie.

Well maybe 2.

Alien Nation the movie was ok. Alien nation the TV series was able to go a bit further and explore more in its run.

Highlander the movie and Highlander the series. The first highlander movie was great, the rest should not have been made. The series at least stuck to the premise of the movie.

Buffy the movie and buffy the series. The series is how the creator had wanted it to go, not the way the movie went. The series addressed teen issues [from what I read about it from the creator of the series].

But ya, the reboot craze is wearing a tad thin. Next thing you know they'll try remaking Rocky Horror picture show, lol... as if they could.
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I saw Buffy The Movie. I think Kristy Swanson was the lead. The TV show was much, much better.



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Next thing you know they'll try remaking Rocky Horror picture show, lol... as if they could.
Yes.... They can.

»www.variety.com/article/VR111798···=13&cs=1

»news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainmen···9471.stm
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said by seaquake:

Not sure if they're reboots or just remakes:
The difference between a reboot and a remake is somewhat nebulous, but to me a reboot steals the characters and changes the story, while a remake sticks mostly to the original story.
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said by MrMoody:

said by seaquake:

Not sure if they're reboots or just remakes:
The difference between a reboot and a remake is somewhat nebulous, but to me a reboot steals the characters and changes the story, while a remake sticks mostly to the original story.
Yeah, quite a blurry line there as something more significant than characters has to change in order to even think about remaking a movie.

Just thought of another one while sitting here: Knight Rider. Yeah, TV series, but they tried rebooting it. Unfortunately, I think they were on the verge of figuring out the right character dynamics in the final few episodes before it was canned.

As for BSG, I do like the original (every Saturday at 9pm on RTN) but the remake is certainly more riveting. IMOHO, that's one that they certainly got right.


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Hulu has all the original BSG from '79 available for free streaming via their site....

They also have a fair selection of Anime & Sci-Fi there as well...

I recommend using the Hulu Desktop application for viewing....

»www.hulu.com/labs/hulu-desktop