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Emirates A380 Airbus Lands in Toronto For the First Time

Full video here:

»www.thestar.com/videozone/643788

Story here:

»www.thestar.com/travel/article/643689
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Re: Emirates A380 Airbus Lands in Toronto For the First Time

Cool! Any idea why they appeared to be hosing it down after landing? I couldn't find that in the article or the video commentary.

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Re: Emirates A380 Airbus Lands in Toronto For the First Time

Cooling off: Jets are used to hose down the Airbus after landing
»www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article···row.html (towards the end of the article)

I thought it was some sort of welcome ceremony.

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Hosing must be a ceremony for first landing just like they used to do for ocean liners.

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Yup. Traditional first flight airport greeting.

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Sweet! Huge plane :P

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Can you imagine fitting 840 people in that thing (single class configuration) ? 840 waiting for their luggage(s), customs, boarding etc...

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Re: Emirates A380 Airbus Lands in Toronto For the First Time

T1 Pier F was designed to accommodate the A380. Everything from baggage, fueling, multiple jetways, etc. Or should I say redesigned, because it wasn't originally intended.

Must have been one heck of a change order.

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Wow, kind of makes me wish I was at work today to see it.

Seeing that thing land will be something. Will have to figure out the landing times so I can time to be at the window.
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About 3:30 I was in a parking lot in Burlington (about 30-40 kms west of PIA).

I looked up and saw this MASSIVE plane just floating like a giant bird. At first I thought it wasn't moving--it was flying that low and slow. It did a 180 degree turn and headed back toward Toronto.

p.s.Our city (Burlington) is the home of the pilot. I am sure he was looking to see if his house was still there.
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Some pics of the interior.

The first three are concepts done up by Airbus. The last one is inside one of the luxury-class suites available on Singapore Airlines (SQ). Yep, on some airlines you will be able to book your own private bedroom on these things.

And before anyone gets any ideas, SQ has already thought of it and banned it ...
quote:
"If couples engage in inappropriate activities we will kindly request them to stop. There are acceptable and unacceptable things in an airplane. The same rules apply in the double suites as in the rest of the airplane," a SQ spokesman said.

Australian couple Tony and Julie Elwood who were one of the first couples to book such a suite don't understand. "They give you a double bed, privacy and loads of champagne but won't allow you in the most natural act that could come of this".












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Re: Emirates A380 Airbus Lands in Toronto For the First Time

I doubt very much that aspiring mile-high club members are going to forego what can be done on a double bed if they can do it in the washroom !

If the plane is a rockin', don't come knockin'.
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Re: Emirates A380 Airbus Lands in Toronto For the First Time

Unfortunately, with what airline travel is these days, you don't want to be accused of "failing to comply with the orders of flight crew" -- or barricading yourself in the suite and refusing to open the door! You would get an interesting reception committee when the plane landed!

I suspect, though, that Western airlines wouldn't have such "rules". I think this just reflects Singapore's notoriously strict and conservative culture.
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said by Wolfie00 See Profile :

I suspect, though, that Western airlines wouldn't have such "rules". I think this just reflects Singapore's notoriously strict and conservative culture.
Would Emirates, based in Dubai, be much different?
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said by DKS See Profile :

said by Wolfie00 See Profile :

I suspect, though, that Western airlines wouldn't have such "rules". I think this just reflects Singapore's notoriously strict and conservative culture.
Would Emirates, based in Dubai, be much different?
Thats where they cut off your private parts when having sex with an unmarried woman
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said by DKS See Profile :

said by Wolfie00 See Profile :

I suspect, though, that Western airlines wouldn't have such "rules". I think this just reflects Singapore's notoriously strict and conservative culture.
Would Emirates, based in Dubai, be much different?
Probably not, but Dubai isn't "the west"!
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it looks nice, but i still don't trust Airbus planes.

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said by dirtyjeffer See Profile :

it looks nice, but i still don't trust Airbus planes.
Why not ?

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said by dirtyjeffer See Profile :

it looks nice, but i still don't trust Airbus planes.
Yeah, I'd like to know why too. Airbus have an excellent safety record.

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Probably because they're European. All skill, and no heart.
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Re: Emirates A380 Airbus Lands in Toronto For the First Time

naa...it just seems that a disproportionately high number of issues seem to happen to Airbus planes, that's all.

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said by dirtyjeffer See Profile :

naa...it just seems that a disproportionately high number of issues seem to happen to Airbus planes, that's all.
Proof? I think we had this exact same discussion with you before.
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Re: Emirates A380 Airbus Lands in Toronto For the First Time

yea, i know...that's why i said "seems"...even the latest accident involves an Airbus jet.

»www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/06/0···?ref=rss
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said by dirtyjeffer See Profile :

yea, i know...that's why i said "seems"...even the latest accident involves an Airbus jet.

»www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/06/0···?ref=rss
hey look...another crash, another Airbus (this time an A310):

»www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31638822/ns···s-africa
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Re: Emirates A380 Airbus Lands in Toronto For the First Time

Maybe just the airlines I've flown on but every airbus that I've ever flown on has felt like it's tried to drive the seat through my ass.

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I guess you missed the part about "completely different type of plane, completely different circumstances, completely different type of failure"!

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it doesn't matter...it's still an Airbus...besides, people curse Ford, GM and Chrysler for different models, different circumstances and different failures...i will hold the aircraft to the same set of standards.
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Re: Emirates A380 Airbus Lands in Toronto For the First Time

So you're accusing Airbus of making shoddy planes, despite the absence of one shred of evidence to support that, or any statistical validity whatsoever? That makes about as much sense as blaming the Tooth Fairy for airline crashes!

If you want some facts, Airbus is very highly regarded in the aerospace community and has delivered more aircraft than Boeing in every single year since 2003. In the ten and a half year period beginning in 1999, Airbus has received more orders than Boeing in every year but three.

OT, but many years ago -- before 9/11 and all the security crackdowns -- I flew to New York with my young son on his very first airplane flight. It was an Air Canada A319 and, rambunctious child that he was, he asked to see the cockpit. They let him in and he plunked himself on the floor behind the two pilots and had such a great time that the stewardess thought I should go up and check it out too. So I spent some time up there and was just blown away by the awesome technology that Airbus is using. I've been a fan every since!
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said by Wolfie00 See Profile :

So you're accusing Airbus of making shoddy planes, despite the absence of one shred of evidence to support that, or any statistical validity whatsoever?
i'm not blaming anything on anyone...just pointing out yet another observation...ANOTHER crash, ANOTHER Airbus.
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said by dirtyjeffer See Profile :

i'm not blaming anything on anyone...just pointing out yet another observation...ANOTHER crash, ANOTHER Airbus.
And what inference are we supposed to make from that?

Here's another equally useful observation. AF447 was headed to Paris. This flight had left from Paris. TWA 800 had also been headed for Paris. Uh-oh!
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Re: Emirates A380 Airbus Lands in Toronto For the First Time

i see where you are going, but i don't want to blame everything on the French.

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said by dirtyjeffer See Profile :

i'm not blaming anything on anyone...just pointing out yet another observation...ANOTHER crash, ANOTHER Airbus.
Pretty good safety record overall. Although the A310 seems a bit dodgy.

Part of the problem is the fleets in 3rd world countries (like...say...France ) with poor maintenance and training, flying older aircraft.



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Re: Emirates A380 Airbus Lands in Toronto For the First Time

Interesting chart -- thanks for posting.

Probably the most direct comparison of Airbus with Boeing is to compare the large population of smaller Airbus models in the A318 to A321 family with the Boeing 737 family. That's quite the tough comparison for Airbus, because the 737 is widely recognized as one of the safest, most robust aircraft ever made.

The result -- from that chart -- is that the Airbus family has a lower accident rate than the 737 "Classic" series -- that is, the "newer" 737 models with efficient turbofan engines -- "Classic" and "NG" together represents almost all 737's flying today*. However, Boeing's "next-generation" (NG) 737's (models 600 and up) have a lower accident rate than the Airbus models. The accident rate for all of them is spectacularly low compared to the world fleet average.

Some of the other conclusions one can draw from that chart:

- passenger jet aircraft have generally been getting safer with newer models

- the two earliest Airbus models had about an average safety record; the majority are way better than the world fleet average

- if any major multi-model manufacturer can be criticized as having a poorer than average record, it would have to be the now-defunct McDonnell Douglas. This is especially so when considering the trouble-plagued DC-10 and its equally defective successor, the MD-11 -- an aircraft with so many flight deck problems that the FAA forced Boeing to redesign the flight software. Ironically, McDonnell Douglas is now part of Boeing!

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* with the exception of the one pollution-belching 737 that was leased from Air Inuit by Stephane Dion's campaign in the last election
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I saw one sitting at Heathrow next to other planes. It was f'in huge!

It doesn't look that big in a picture without a scale of reference because everything in it is proportionally bigger.
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Where is a good spot near the airport to go and sit to watch the planes come in? I've gone over to the Tim Hortons or Wendys parking lot once on Airport road but its not overly ideal. Anyone have some good site seeing tips?
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said by theninjasqua See Profile :

Where is a good spot near the airport to go and sit to watch the planes come in? I've gone over to the Tim Hortons or Wendys parking lot once on Airport road but its not overly ideal. Anyone have some good site seeing tips?
Dixie Road in Mississauga is almost right up against 23-05 and there's almost like a parking area where people go to watch the planes fly in right overhead. Only issue is that I don't think that runway is used as often as the 24-06es further south, but you should still get a good view.
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Another video.

»www.theglobeandmail.com/report-o···1164388/

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Just flew an Airbus 310 from Ottawa to Toronto last weekend with the misses, told her "you know this thing is built in 4 different countries..." 100+ flights for me and every Airbus I fly makes me curse Karl and Brian to hell.

Hey at least they ain't made in China, though it sometimes feels like it. Hoping a 380 comes to Ottawa, I'd make the trip out to plane spot it for sure!
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