Re: San Fran - Where is it better to stay? in Northern California http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22492088 en Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:16:50 EDT Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:16:50 EDT Re: San Francisco - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22572784 DavisPhotog : Um, treat a yellow light like you would anywhere else. As long as your front axle crosses the intersection lines before the light turns red, you're in the clear, just like anywhere else. I spent a few hours driving in SF ("Frisco," really???) yesterday and never saw anyone pulled over.

As you get closer to campus there are lots of one-way streets in Berkeley, but all of the main N-S roads, San Pablo, Telegraph, Shattuck are two-way for the better part.
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When you rent the car, treat yellow lights as if they are red lights. The cops in Frisco will ticket you. Try to study your route to and from Berkeley. A lot of streets are one way, lanes aren't clearly marked, etc. Also the bridge have cash only lanes, carpool only, fast track only, etc.

But maybe you shouldn't listen to my suggestions since everyone says I'm wrong :D There's hella love for Oakland on this place for some reason. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22572768 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:00:50 EDT Re: San Francisco - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22562651 Fat City :
said by Goober See Profile :

...For us, though, we need to be close as possible to the main attractions. It's hard to get going with the kids and we just can't afford the transit time is what my feeling is.
Good thinking! Make it easy on yourself and the family.

Spend your time sightseeing, not commuting. :)

Hope your week here is an enjoyable one.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22562651 Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:20:09 EDT Re: San Francisco - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22559282 sfromsf : You made the right call in staying at Union Square. If you were on a tighter budget, staying out of SF would be a good idea. Enjoy your stays, ignore ninja turtle.
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said by PrntRhd See Profile :

RRC is a big transit guy,
Yep, I am, especially in SF, they have about the best transit system in the US, might as well take advantage of it if at all possible :) Like I said, driving and parking in the downtown area is a headache, avoid it if you can.
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said by Goober See Profile :

Is there a benefit to staying outside SF? I chose downtown for the convenience of not having to drive around. We aren't going to rent a car either, so parking shouldn't be an issue.
Accomodations are cheaper, a bit less crowding and traffic. We stayed in Redwood City (I live in Redwood Valley, it's 120 miles northwest of SF up here in Mendocino County) last summer for a couple of weeks on work in the Bay, and it worked out great, we drove some, but used Caltrain, BART and MUNI a lot. No offense to the Bay Areaites, but the drivers there are, well, less than stellar ;)
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It depends on how much "city life" you wish to experience. You can get there either way.

North Beach and Chinatown are unique experiences and should be experienced on foot. Same with the Golden Gate Bridge, walking on it is awesome vs looking at it from afar.
Dress in layers, the weather changes quickly.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22549120 Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:01:42 EDT Re: San Francisco - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22548760 Goober : Is there a benefit to staying outside SF? I chose downtown for the convenience of not having to drive around. We aren't going to rent a car either, so parking shouldn't be an issue.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22548760 Sun, 14 Jun 2009 09:57:19 EDT Re: San Francisco - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22548403 RR Conductor : I'd suggest staying outside of SF, in San Bruno, Redwood City or one of the suburbs, then riding Caltrain or BART into SF, then riding MUNI around, driving in downtown SF is a HEADACHE, and parking is a nightmare, not to mention EXPENSIVE (but then, most of SF is $$$ lol).
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»chabotspace.org/

And I've always been a big fan of the Oakland Museum of California:
»museumca.org/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22525289 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 22:44:58 EDT Re: San Francisco - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22524438 grendal : another place for kids in oakland.

»www.oaklandzoo.org/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22524438 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:02:53 EDT Re: San Francisco - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22523248 DavisPhotog : 1/2 day to get to Berkeley and back? What a load of....

Ninjatutle, all you're doing to Oakland is driving people away who might otherwise have a good time. There are good neighborhoods and bad neighborhoods, and many of the bad ones are actually out of the way for this poor guy.

Don't spread your infectious fear from your cushy suburb.
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As for Oakland (and ony other city, regardless of where we travel) I'll do a check to see where things are located and check for other safety matters. I do it regardless of where we go. Thanks.

edit: I see the Kite Festival is on for the 25th and 26th. My younger son is a huge fan of kites.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22523082 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:31:17 EDT Re: San Francisco - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22523032 ninjatutle : I would just stick to SF and maybe have the family meet you over there. You'll waste half a day getting to Berkeley and back. Or meet up with the family at HS Lordship restaurant at the Berkeley marina. »www.hslordships.com/index.html
Great place to fly a kite afterwards with great views of SF. If you seen the movie The Kite Flyer, the last seen is at the Berkeley marina where they are at the hill flying the kites. They have a giant kite festival there each year. July 25th is the next one.

Oakland is not a tourist destination. They ranked in the top 5 for murders in the nation. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22523032 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:22:00 EDT Re: San Francisco - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22522617 DavisPhotog : The Rockridge and Claremont areas of Berkeley and Oakland run together seamlessly, so if you end up in this area (I live in a part of Rockridge), you'll undoubtedly cross the line between the two. No preventing it! ;) That said, if you come to Berkeley, please do explore the Telegraph Ave, Shattuck, and College Ave areas.
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We're not really on a budget (within reason of course), so I'm willing to do whatever is most convenient, less fatiguing and most enjoyable.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22522572 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:57:30 EDT Re: San Francisco - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22522352 Goober : We have 5 people.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22522352 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:23:37 EDT Re: San Francisco - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22522162 DavisPhotog : How often do you actually even go to SF? I don't usually trust your advice and this is not an exception, honestly. Do you think he'll be safer driving the streets than taking MUNI or the Bus?

Cabs are ridiculously expensive. Don't get into one in a high-traffic area or it ends up being faster to walk. MUNI (bus or rail) is $1.50 until July 1 when the price goes up to $2.

I agree with downtown SF being a bit hard to navigate; SF is a terrible grid except for places like the mission.

Why not Oakland? There are several museums here and plenty for kids to do. MANY people say they find the atmosphere of the Oakland/Berkeley area much more "home-like" and welcoming than SF.
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Downtown SF is a little hard to navigate, you have these bus only lanes, hills, pedestrians, one way streets, nuts on bikes to swerve around, etc.

No need to venture into Oakland like someone suggested. You don't want to go there. I would do 3 days in Frisco. The last few days would be nice to take a road trip on The Pacific Coast Highway 1 on a rental car. Either north or south and fly out from an airport at a the end of the road trip.

I would skip Napa because your kids would be bored to death. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22521991 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 13:30:40 EDT Re: San Fran - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22519296 Goober : We're also going to do this. That way we can go see things without having to worry about parking a car or anything.

»silverlionservice.com/

Where parking isn't a hassle, we'll try to rent a car on those trips.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22519296 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 00:08:46 EDT Re: San Fran - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22519119 DavisPhotog : That's a good strategy. I'm sure that you can find plenty of cheap car rental places in the city that are not at the airport.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22519119 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:24:49 EDT Re: San Fran - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22519013 Warzau : Oh and also we rented for a day or so, so we got the day trips done and the rest of the week after we returned the car, we used public trans.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22519013 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:01:24 EDT Re: San Fran - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22518559 Goober : That's exactly the lines along what we're thinking.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22518559 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 21:26:05 EDT Re: San Fran - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22518507 Warzau : We did rent a car but only to take day trips to Napa and other places, but for the city we walked or public transportation.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22518507 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 21:14:52 EDT Re: San Francisco - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22508412 grendal : places to go w/ your kids.

»www.calacademy.org/
»www.exploratorium.edu/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22508412 Sat, 06 Jun 2009 19:26:27 EDT Re: San Fran - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22502653 Goober : lol.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22502653 Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:29:49 EDT Re: San Fran - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22502639 BIGMIKE :
said by Goober See Profile :

Thanks. Another question. Is seven days too long to spend there?
One Day is too long.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22502639 Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:26:02 EDT Re: San Francisco - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22502239 Goober : Great. I'll look at the site. Thx.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22502239 Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:35:48 EDT Re: San Francisco - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22502215 DavisPhotog : Summers in SF have gotten progressively warmer in recent years but by no means do you actually *need* AC. You'll find it's a lot less humid out here than it is in IL, so any heat will be a lot drier than you're used to.

Do yourself a favor and don't stay at Fisherman's Wharf. It's a pretty good hike to get to the Embarcadero BART station and traffic sucks on Embarcadero Street.

I'd check the Yelp reviews for those hotels and see what suits your family best.
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I've narrowed down my hotel choices to the following, but could use some help deciding:

Ritz Carlton
Parc Fifty-Five
Prescott
Intercontinental
Westin St. Francis
Grand Hyatt

and maybe

White Swan (no A/C)
Argonaut (Fisherman's Wharf)

Any opinions?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22502158 Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:21:20 EDT Re: San Fran - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22500194 Goober : Okay, fixed.

But, I'd rather live in Naperville than San Francisco. That's why I'm only visiting that place and not moving there.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22500194 Fri, 05 Jun 2009 08:48:05 EDT Re: San Fran - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22499598 Bink63 :
said by DavisPhotog See Profile :

Agreed. Nor do we ever call California "Cali." That drives me NUTS!
"Cali" is a city in Columbia.

There are some drug cartels there.

'Nuff said???

;)
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It's San Francisco, "The City" or "Baghdad by the bay", it is NOT 'Frisco or San Fran!!!

Damn FIB!

;)

maybe you should stay in Naperthrill *yawn*???
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GO Cubs GO!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22499536 Fri, 05 Jun 2009 02:00:52 EDT Re: San Fran - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22499189 Goober : No iPhone. My Blackberry is going to have to do. I think we should do okay . . . famous last words.

I still have to figure out where we're going to stay.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22499189 Fri, 05 Jun 2009 00:08:55 EDT Re: San Fran - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22498560 DavisPhotog : I've parked at that Sheraton lot before and it is amazingly ridiculous to park. Parking in the city, in general, is not cheap. If you don't mind using public transit, 'tis very effective.

Do you have an iPhone by any chance? I've gotten by in the city a number of times recently on MUNI using the "public transit" feature on the Maps application.
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said by RR Conductor See Profile :

you don't have to fight the traffic and horrible Bay Area drivers ;)
HEY!

I RESEMBLE that remark!

But, I was also a Chicago-Area cab driver so...

;)
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said by Goober See Profile :

Thanks. Another question. Is seven days too long to spend there?
Nope I think it's more than enough. Wife and I took public as well as the trolley to get to the usual sites. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22493839 Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:40:39 EDT Re: San Fran - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22493754 Goober : Great suggestions from everyone. I've decided that we'll stay in Union Square. It just seems that it's the better jumping off point to go do other things.

If we have the time, we'll certainly do some of the other things mentioned here. We'll have to spend a day with my cousin, so in reality we'll have 5 full days open. It doesn't seem like that much really.

Sticker shock is okay. So far this is only about 60% of the cost (air and hotel) we were expecting to incur for summer vacation since we were originally going to go to Hawaii. We got too worried, though, about the long flight and how our 7 year old would do. So, we've pushed HI off for a year or so. We figured we still wanted to come out this way though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22493754 Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:16:53 EDT Re: San Fran - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22493666 Boricua65 : Yeah, that's the one. At least I knew it started with an "F".
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I can also recommend going to Oakland by BART and checking out Funderland at the Lake Merritt for the kids. I was in Oakland a few weekends ago and saw there's some construction around some parts of the lake because of bond measure passed a few years ago, so if you want to walk around the lake be careful.
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One day I went from my house to being PARKED in downtown SF (getting there is one thing, parking is another) in that same 12 minutes. :D


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The longer you stay in a city - any city - the more you'll get to know it past its surface elements. Sure, I could tell you a handful of museums that you could see in a day, or you could visit one museum per day and not get museum fatigue, all while taking it in at a more natural pace.

How good are the kids in the car? You wouldn't believe the wealth (and diversity) of stuff to do within 2 hours of here.

You could see Sonoma/Napa wine country one day, go down to Santa Cruz the next (and see a bit of silicon valley on the way down), you could go to the state capitol (midtown Sacramento is quite nice these days), or you could drive up the coast toward Mendocino (which may not be as kid-friendly as you might like).

If you're going to stay in the city, for that whole 7 days, I'm not going to try to dissuade you. Each neighborhood is quite unique and you could easily spend a half day in each neighborhood seeing certain sights.

What kind of food do you like?
What kind of attractions do you like?

I'm a 12 minute drive (w/out traffic) from downtown SF so I manage to make it over there as often as I can.
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»NorCal forum FAQ

»NorCal forum FAQ

»NorCal forum FAQ

Also walking in the city can involve hills. :D
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TH ~ NE ~ EPN ~ NC ~ TD]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22492088 Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:12:25 EDT Re: San Fran - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22492053 Goober : Thanks. Another question. Is seven days too long to spend there?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22492053 Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:06:21 EDT Re: San Fran - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22492030 Warzau : If the kids don't mind walking, Union Square area. My wife and I stayed in that area, we walked alot did the downtown tours, went to Chinatown, did the trolleys. But alot of walking..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22492030 Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:03:22 EDT San Francisco - Where is it better to stay? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22491949 Goober : Fisherman's Wharf or Union Square area?

I'll be there for a week with my wife and 3 kids.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22491949 Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:47:30 EDT