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Re: TiVo gains second judgment against Echostar OK, I believe you. Why didn't Charlie bring this stuff up in court? 200 million dollars is going to hurt Dish, but its really going to hurt Dish customers who eventually have to pay it. -- "People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use." |
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 | said by pandora:OK, I believe you. Why didn't Charlie bring this stuff up in court? 200 million dollars is going to hurt Dish, but its really going to hurt Dish customers who eventually have to pay it. I believe that "Charlie's" lawyers used every tactic available to them, including ignoring a ruling by the judge, but still lost.
When you run your business by stealing copying intimidating throwing around your weight, and the little guy just happens kick your ass anyway, you have to pay the price.
Unfortunately, this may affect Dish customers, but it certainly won't impact Charles "Charlie" Ergen "...the 89th richest person in the world with a net worth of $9.1 Billion." |
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 BitPremium join:2009-02-19 00000 3 edits | reply to pandora Because our patent system is a joke and allows someone who adds background animation to obvious prior art to get a patent on it. Just ask IBM who was granted a scroll bar patent in 1995, when virually every GUI had already long had it including Windows 3.x
Then you have it tried in front of a bunch of postal workers who haven't a clue as to what they are hearing. They just think that TiVo was the first DVR and switch everything else off. "If it doesn't fit, you must acquit".
The PO is reexamining yet again whether TiVo's patents are valid, but getting the organization who screwed up in the first place to admit that after all this money was spend in litigation that they screwed up won't be easy.
Plain and simple, TiVo did not invent the DVR nor did they invent anything in it including the GUI, content linking, simultaneous recording and playback, none of it. They didn't even invent picking an onscreen program to record. They weren't even first to market. Even if they managed to be the first to get a patent on it, that just leaves us with a users keepers losers weepers system that decimates innovation and rewards thieves who exploit the real patented work of others. Our patent system is a joke and then relies on idiot jurors who make sense of it. That is a recipie for epic fail. -- POKE 65495,1 |
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK | reply to DCIFRTHS Explain your excessive fascination with Ergen. You certainly seem to hate the man with a passion. |
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 | said by KrK:Explain your excessive fascination with Ergen. You certainly seem to hate the man with a passion. TiVo won, Dish didn't. It's nice to see that money couldn't buy justice. That's my fascination with the situation  |
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 BitPremium join:2009-02-19 00000 | TiVo didn't invent anything, they just stole it from everyone else. And before you start barfing up that the patent office gave them the patent on this prior art remember they also game IBM a scroll bar patent in 1995 and the trademark office granted dispair.com a registration for ":-(". Our patent system is a joke.
You are right, there was no justice here. -- POKE 65495,1 |
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| reply to DCIFRTHS said by DCIFRTHS:TiVo won, Dish didn't. It's nice to see that money couldn't buy justice. That's my fascination with the situation  You mean that money couldn't defend Justice, I'm sure. -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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