Roche1972
join:2008-02-22
| reply to icemannyr1
Re: WSAH switching to Retro TV July 1st.
Hi Ron_WSAH. I have been contacting VZ_Gustavo in the Direct forum about the audio and video issues with WSAH (channel 19) but he keeps insisting that it's a station problem and that there's nothing Verizon can do about it. It's a shame. I still find it weird that my HD DVR can pick up the audio well without having to raise the volume of my HDTV. That's the only TV set I can watch WSAH on without all the audio issues. |
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Greg2600
join:2008-05-20
Belleville, NJ | reply to icemannyr1
The station was completely black last evening, no video, no audio. |
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Ron_WSAH
join:2009-07-01
Marion, CT
| We had a receiver failure last night, caused by the RTV downlink. The DVB-S2 stream got flaky and the receiver finally gave up and quit. Programming was restored at 22:20 after rebooting the receiver.
RTV is working on this issue with the manufacturer. |
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Ron_WSAH
join:2009-07-01
Marion, CT
| reply to Roche1972
said by Roche1972  :Hi Ron_WSAH. I have been contacting VZ_Gustavo in the Direct forum about the audio and video issues with WSAH (channel 19) but he keeps insisting that it's a station problem and that there's nothing Verizon can do about it. It's a shame. I still find it weird that my HD DVR can pick up the audio well without having to raise the volume of my HDTV. That's the only TV set I can watch WSAH on without all the audio issues. This is due to the fact that most STBs put out a MONO RF feed and when out-of-phase audio is mono-mixed, it cancels. All you end up hearing is little differences in level and phase between channels (no two audio channels are -exactly- the same, then add "joint-stereo" into the equation).
The HD boxes, or the AV jacks will sound OK, but the stereo image will be off to the sides and not in the center like you're used to. This can be very unnerving and the untrained ear just finds it confusing and enraging. |
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sneskid
join:2008-01-10
Arlington, VA
| said by Ron_WSAH :said by Roche1972 :Hi Ron_WSAH. I have been contacting VZ_Gustavo in the Direct forum about the audio and video issues with WSAH (channel 19) but he keeps insisting that it's a station problem and that there's nothing Verizon can do about it. It's a shame. I still find it weird that my HD DVR can pick up the audio well without having to raise the volume of my HDTV. That's the only TV set I can watch WSAH on without all the audio issues. This is due to the fact that most STBs put out a MONO RF feed and when out-of-phase audio is mono-mixed, it cancels. All you end up hearing is little differences in level and phase between channels (no two audio channels are -exactly- the same, then add "joint-stereo" into the equation). The HD boxes, or the AV jacks will sound OK, but the stereo image will be off to the sides and not in the center like you're used to. This can be very unnerving and the untrained ear just finds it confusing and enraging. Yup, and miswiring (before analog to digital conversion) is the culprit.
Comcast of Arlington would do this on their RF modulators from time to time.
They might wire up the left channel positive-positive, negative-negative, ground-ground,
while wiring up the right channel positive-negative, negative-positive, ground-ground.
Since analog audio connections on broadcast equipment (routers, encoders, etc) is usually terminal screws or phoenix connectors where you work with actual bare wiring instead of jacks and plugs, it is actually a very easy mistake to make if you're not careful. |
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sneskid
join:2008-01-10
Arlington, VA
| reply to MacGyver973
said by MacGyver973 :said by matcarl :Oh well, if it doesn't get fixed by the new format, then I'm not watching it. He doesn't care, Verizon doesn't care, then neither do I. Shameful. I think you're over reacting. It's really not that bad. Not ideal, but certainly not unwatchable. I can deal with it. (yes, I know I am replying to an old post)
Actually, out of phase audio is indeed a big deal. If you listen in stereo, the imaging will be way off. If you listen in mono (which some people still do), you basically got a karaoke machine. If you listen in Dolby Surround, all the dialog (and everything else that's equal on left and right) will be sent to the rear speakers. |
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tv watcher
@verizon.net | reply to icemannyr1
i just flipped on channel 19, on fios, had a infomercial with sound!!!!! The sound is just like any other channel. Did the powers that be fix the problem? All the complaining may have worked. congrats |
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nascar
join:2000-02-28
Verona, NJ | reply to icemannyr1
I'm no expert but it sounds pretty good to me now. 
Now, if only the guide data was correct.  |
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Anonny Moose
@verizon.net
 from:
nascar
| What schedule is WSAH following? Even the online PDF for their affiliate listing isn't even close to be correct.
I set my DVR for Emergency at 1PM and wound up with an hour long infomercial. I set the DVR for the Hardy Boys last night and Airwolf was on instead.
What good is any of this of no one knows what's on? |
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MacGyver973
join:2009-05-18
West Orange, NJ
| said by Anonny Moose :
What schedule is WSAH following? Even the online PDF for their affiliate listing isn't even close to be correct.
This is the schedule. The national schedule provided by the guide is wrong.
M-F
18:00 - 19:00 I-Spy
19:00 - 20:00 Knight Rider
20:00 - 21:00 The A-Team
21:00 - 22:00 Rockford Files
22:00 - 23:00 Quincy
23:00 - 00:00 Magnum PI
SAT
18:00 - 18:30 McHale's Navy
18:30 - 19:00 Dragnet
19:00 - 20:00 Airwolf
20:00 - 21:00 Buck Rogers
21:00 - 22:00 Battlestar Galactica (1978)
22:00 - 00:00 Midnight Monster Hop
SUN
18:00 - 19:00 Voyagers
19:00 - 20:00 Airwolf
20:00 - 20:30 Amen
20:30 - 21:00 Mickey Spillane
21:00 - 22:00 Hardy Boys / Nancy Drew
22:00 - 23:00 Alfred Hitchcock Hour
23:00 - 00:00 Alfred Hitchcock Hour |
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munson15
join:2008-02-19
Brooklyn, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to icemannyr1
Nice! Somehow, this slipped under my radar. It's showing up as "Gems TV" in the guide, but it always seems to take Verizon a few days/weeks to properly update their guide when new channels are added, so no biggie.
I can't remember the last time I watched an episode of "Ironside". Very cool! |
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munson15
join:2008-02-19
Brooklyn, NY | reply to MacGyver973
Awww...so no "Ironside"? Bah! |
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Anonny Moose
@verizon.net
from:
nascar
| reply to MacGyver973
No Emergency???
Awww....then this is one channel I guess I won't be watching then. |
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matcarl
join:2007-03-09
Franklin Square, NY
| reply to tv watcher
said by tv watcher :
i just flipped on channel 19, on fios, had a infomercial with sound!!!!! The sound is just like any other channel. Did the powers that be fix the problem? All the complaining may have worked. congrats
According to someone at Verizon, the sound seems to have finally been fixed by WSAH |
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darcilicious
Cyber Librarian
Premium
join:2001-01-02
Forest Grove, OR | Like either side at this point is going to admit to being at fault  |
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icemannyr1
join:2001-04-11
Township Of Washington, NJ
2 edits | reply to icemannyr1
The audio watching on a regular TV from the Coax in is normal now and sounds fine on my qam tuner.
Thanks to whoever fixed it.
Now we just need a link to the schedule.
The RTV website links to the national schedule pdf.
I wanted to add an EAS Weather Alert for May, 25th 2009 has been suck scrolling on the channel since 10:20pm. |
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matcarl
join:2007-03-09
Franklin Square, NY | Does anyone notice a lip sync issue now? |
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Greg2600
join:2008-05-20
Belleville, NJ | reply to icemannyr1
No Night Gallery! Boo! |
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icemannyr1
join:2001-04-11
Township Of Washington, NJ
| reply to icemannyr1
Quincy was ok but Magnum P.I. looks like it's running at the wrong frame rate.
It's hard to explain but I believe Magnum P.I. was recorded on film but it does not have that film frame rate look and the video is not clean when the camera pans left to right or right to left. |
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tv watcher
@verizon.net
| reply to icemannyr1
maybe i am being too picky. too hung up on the channel. i found it strange to have a tornado warning for may 29th to come across the screen during quincy.i live in new york, connecticut is in another state, but it wasnt even in the same month. seems like gomer pyle is running things, i dont know |
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