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openbox9

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Alexandria, VA
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reply to vinnie97

Re: haha

I don't understand how some can wish such ill-will on a product that brings competition, however questionable it may be in some eyes, to a market. Turning U-verse up in many markets will help push cable. That's what competition is all about.

vinnie97
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My take is: Either do it the right way, or don't do it all. Coddling copper in 2009 and beyond is the height of asininity.


openbox9

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Alexandria, VA
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Copper can work just fine. Fiber isn't the be all and end all.



n2jtx

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said by openbox9:

Copper can work just fine. Fiber isn't the be all and end all.
True, but the bandwidth limits of fiber are only hobbled, at this time, by the electronics on either end. Various physical laws make pushing extremely high speeds over long distance runs of unshielded twisted pair virtually impossible. You can at this moment easily push a 10GB data stream over a 10km fiber run. You cannot do the same with UTP.
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vinnie97
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said by openbox9:

Copper can work just fine. Fiber isn't the be all and end all.
"Fine" is a stretch, especially with all the aging copper out there (my dirty line can barely sustain a 6MB down sync). Fiber is the best wired transmission medium moving forward. The sooner AT&T realizes this, the better off we'll all be. The time for half-measures is over.

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
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reply to n2jtx
I'm not disputing that one bit. And I don't know of any company attempting to push 10 Gbps over a 10 Km run of copper.


openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
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reply to vinnie97
I have no doubt that AT&T (and every other last mile provider, including CATV) will migrate to FTTH at some point. The FTTN and copper to the house is a step on the road to FTTH. My point is that for where we are in the development of the Internet and what most customers are demanding, copper can work and fiber isn't necessary. That will change, I just don't believe we're at that breaking point yet.


cwh

join:2006-05-14
San Antonio, TX

reply to vinnie97
And this 1/2 measure is turning those 6 meg line into 25+meg lines in much less time than a full fiber buildout. Even with ATT slowdown in rollout they are still rolling out at least 2x as fast as verizon. MOre broadband to more people in much less time. Everything in life is a compromise.


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