Defiance82
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Re: Nice to see...
said by Matt  :said by digiblur :I've watched all the reviews and hands on videos. It looks cute but I don't see what all the hype is about. I felt the same way when the Iphone came out though. Sticking with the TouchPro for now...better keyboard...higher resolution screen...memory card slot...tethering...wmwifirouter...etc. I felt the same way. The huge selling point that iPhone has is the app store. There is literally a very well crafted app for everything you can think of. Here is a quick listing of what I have on my iPhone: Subnet Calculator and Inventory iSSH RDP App Astronomy Planets App US History Documents Reference Twitterfon Skype Fandango Unit/Distance/Time/Weight Conversion App Facebook Blizzard Authenticator Pandora Streaming Radio AIM Google App w/ Voice Recognition Siphon VoIP Client Bank of America App ... plus 10 or so fun apps like brain teasers, games like Doom/Wolfenstein. As a hardware device, I find the iPhone so-so, but the app store is indispensable and precisely why the iPhone is a success. I bet those cost an arm and a leg too  The Apple App Store is a bunch of overpriced junk.
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en102
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| I agree - iTunes/App Store isn't all that cheap for many apps.
Worse things about iPhone - Mobile Me = $99 subscription 
Sync should be FREE. I'm basically paying $199 for an iPhone, and another $199 to sync it  thats nuts.
Removable battery, and access to transfer files (mp3, pictures, take videos, etc should all be STANDARD). iPhone is made mostly to bridge the gap between phone, PDA and ease of use. I'd take a clone.
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said by Defiance82 :said by Matt :said by digiblur :I've watched all the reviews and hands on videos. It looks cute but I don't see what all the hype is about. I felt the same way when the Iphone came out though. Sticking with the TouchPro for now...better keyboard...higher resolution screen...memory card slot...tethering...wmwifirouter...etc. I felt the same way. The huge selling point that iPhone has is the app store. There is literally a very well crafted app for everything you can think of. Here is a quick listing of what I have on my iPhone: Subnet Calculator and Inventory iSSH RDP App Astronomy Planets App US History Documents Reference Twitterfon Skype Fandango Unit/Distance/Time/Weight Conversion App Facebook Blizzard Authenticator Pandora Streaming Radio AIM Google App w/ Voice Recognition Siphon VoIP Client Bank of America App ... plus 10 or so fun apps like brain teasers, games like Doom/Wolfenstein. As a hardware device, I find the iPhone so-so, but the app store is indispensable and precisely why the iPhone is a success. I bet those cost an arm and a leg too The Apple App Store is a bunch of overpriced junk. Nope, most were free and the ones I did purchase were at most $1.99, with the bulk being $.99. Easily 90% of my apps are free and to call them "junk" is silly. |
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said by en102 :I agree - iTunes/App Store isn't all that cheap for many apps. Worse things about iPhone - Mobile Me = $99 subscription Sync should be FREE. I'm basically paying $199 for an iPhone, and another $199 to sync it thats nuts. Removable battery, and access to transfer files (mp3, pictures, take videos, etc should all be STANDARD). iPhone is made mostly to bridge the gap between phone, PDA and ease of use. I'd take a clone. Then why pay $99 for MobileMe? You can sync with several other free services. |
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Actually most of those apps listed above are free. I have 134 free apps on my phone ranging from utilities to games to apps that i use on my iBook, like AIm, Yahoo, Skype, DSLR.com speed test, dictionary, and of course what iPHone would be complete without the FREE shazam app (which tells you what music you're hearing), i also have mywireless, a free app from att to manage my account, abc news feed, iTrans, have2P, have2eat, an app called Sunlight that shows me how much daylight is left in the day via a graphical representation.
I also have solitaire, checkers, chess, a barcode scanner, G-force meter, speedometer etc etc.
The only pay app i have is called Pocket God, and it's worth the 99 cents! 
If i had more $ i'd be buying certain pay apps, as they outnumber the free apps something like 12 to 1.
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en102
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I can upload my own mp3s for free on the iPhone - when did that occur?
Also, I shouldn't need a 'service' to sync.
Should be able to
a) plug it into a PC / Mac / Linux box and xfer data
b) ftp/scp/rsync data off over the web
c) email / calendar sync (IMAP or POP client)
These basic apps/functionality should be included, and a service can make use of them if you want to pay for it. Eg. I should be able to rsync to my own Linux box / Mac or Windows box running cygwin (or another rsync compatible shell).
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en102
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Personally, I like the iPhone's display/UI over any other out there... I just wish the iPhone wasn't so locked down.
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said by Defiance82 :said by Matt :said by digiblur :I've watched all the reviews and hands on videos. It looks cute but I don't see what all the hype is about. I felt the same way when the Iphone came out though. Sticking with the TouchPro for now...better keyboard...higher resolution screen...memory card slot...tethering...wmwifirouter...etc. I felt the same way. The huge selling point that iPhone has is the app store. There is literally a very well crafted app for everything you can think of. Here is a quick listing of what I have on my iPhone: Subnet Calculator and Inventory iSSH RDP App Astronomy Planets App US History Documents Reference Twitterfon Skype Fandango Unit/Distance/Time/Weight Conversion App Facebook Blizzard Authenticator Pandora Streaming Radio AIM Google App w/ Voice Recognition Siphon VoIP Client Bank of America App ... plus 10 or so fun apps like brain teasers, games like Doom/Wolfenstein. As a hardware device, I find the iPhone so-so, but the app store is indispensable and precisely why the iPhone is a success. I bet those cost an arm and a leg too The Apple App Store is a bunch of overpriced junk. Hardly. Many of the apps are free.
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Matt
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said by en102 :I can upload my own mp3s for free on the iPhone - when did that occur? Also, I shouldn't need a 'service' to sync. Should be able to a) plug it into a PC / Mac / Linux box and xfer data b) ftp/scp/rsync data off over the web c) email / calendar sync (IMAP or POP client) These basic apps/functionality should be included, and a service can make use of them if you want to pay for it. Eg. I should be able to rsync to my own Linux box / Mac or Windows box running cygwin (or another rsync compatible shell). You can sync your MP3's to iTunes and then sync your iPhone. You seriously didn't know you could do that?
A) You can do that, see my screenshot.
B) Jailbreak your phone and you can do this as well
C) I can do POP/IMAP/Exchange, as well as Gmail, etc. I currently use 1 Exchange, 1 IMAP and my GMail account. I sync contacts, calendar, and tasks over the air. |
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en102
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| I have a Tilt - never used an iPhone (too crippling w/o Jailbreak for me).
I thought that there was some sort of issue in pulling down mp3s/pictures/video across (i.e. making mp3s into ringtones).
I understand apps can't sync w/o iTunes, and Java won't run - that's an Apple restriction (probably for the same reason as scp/ftp,etc.) |
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Matt
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| said by en102 :I have a Tilt - never used an iPhone (too crippling w/o Jailbreak for me). I thought that there was some sort of issue in pulling down mp3s/pictures/video across (i.e. making mp3s into ringtones). I understand apps can't sync w/o iTunes, and Java won't run - that's an Apple restriction (probably for the same reason as scp/ftp,etc.) When you connect an iPhone to iTunes it offers to scan your music for songs it can make ringtones out of.
Apps can sync without iTunes. Actually, you can buy them over the air, along with music and with 3.0, movies. You may be confusing that with backing up apps? You have to have iTunes for that.
You're right about Java, but that hasn't been an issue yet and FWIW, I had to hack Java onto my WinMo phone too as there wasn't an official WinMo Java distribution. |
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en102
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| Interesting.. not that I'm a WinMo fan, but I've had 'Hockey Night In Canada' as a ringtone for my past Motorola phones, and my HTC Tilt. Never had to get it from a 'ringtone vendor' or scan it.
Similarly, Java came with the HTC Tilt, and a few apps (demo) were with it.
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| said by en102 :Interesting.. not that I'm a WinMo fan, but I've had 'Hockey Night In Canada' as a ringtone for my past Motorola phones, and my HTC Tilt. Never had to get it from a 'ringtone vendor' or scan it. Similarly, Java came with the HTC Tilt, and a few apps (demo) were with it. I think some manufacturers license a JVM to include on their phones. WinMo doesn't include one but IBM and Sun do sell them. There was a free one you can download and install, but it was an awful experience trying to get it installed and a lot of the newer apps didn't work.
The scan that iTunes offers has never found a song that couldn't be used as a ringtone, but I imagine that perhaps if a record company wanted to restrict a song purchased through iTunes as such, the iTunes DRM supports it. I have about 10GB of music, probably $500 or so that's been purchased directly through iTunes. |
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