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Re: I have so little faith that government can do anything right
said by Bit  :due to massive corruption that anything that it done will be based on whatever incumbent providers want. Spine or not, Congress pulls the purse strings and votes on this stuff and every member has been bought and paid for by corporate America. Thats certainly a cynical veiwpoint. However, the fact that I concur to a certain degree is actually kind of sad! On the other hand, this is also an opportunity to make some actual progress. We'll see...
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| said by S_engineer :Thats certainly a cynical veiwpoint. However, the fact that I concur to a certain degree is actually kind of sad! On the other hand, this is also an opportunity to make some actual progress. We'll see... Cough*amtrak*cough.
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00000 | Just about every government program is a disaster of waste and inefficiency especially now that they're being given blank checks with no transparency or oversight.
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PapaMidnight
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Cynical or not, past history tell us its true. How about that "LANDMARK HEALTH CARE BILL" of 2005...? |
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S_engineer
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| said by PapaMidnight :Cynical or not, past history tell us its true. How about that "LANDMARK HEALTH CARE BILL" of 2005...? True, maybe...but whats the alternative?
The megacarriers have also proven that they can't build this innitiative on their own. Billions in tax credits were given to these carriers during the Clinton era, and few rewards were seen in rural areas. Few carriers do their own upgrades without pulling the teeth of shareholders, and some carriers only consider surgical upgrades to specific areas rather than system-wide. Yes there are some that stand above, but they get associated with the cutthroats like Time-Warner.
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wifi4milez
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said by Bit :Just about every government program is a disaster of waste and inefficiency especially now that they're being given blank checks with no transparency or oversight. Any government program with the words "Universal", "Landmark", or "Social" in its title means trouble and higher taxes. Not to mention the fact that they all turn out to be money pits with no accountability.
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| said by wifi4milez :said by Bit :Just about every government program is a disaster of waste and inefficiency especially now that they're being given blank checks with no transparency or oversight. Any government program with the words "Universal", "Landmark", or "Social" in its title means trouble and higher taxes. Not to mention the fact that they all turn out to be money pits with no accountability. or worse, something that will inevitably lead to our bankruptcy...amazing how far we are along this path and the SS+medicare problem is still ignored. *sigh* |
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Bit
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00000 | Unlike GM, the government can simply mandate higher "revenues" as our Governator calls them. Revenues have replaced taxes in California just as "undocumented" has replaced "illegal" here.
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kapil
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1 edit | said by Bit :Unlike GM, the government can simply mandate higher "revenues" as our Governator calls them. Revenues have replaced taxes in California just as "undocumented" has replaced "illegal" here. That's what happens when you hire pretty people, regardless of their competence on the subject matter, to do important jobs.
You have millions of illegal immigrants because Reagan allowed them in. That's where this bullshit really started.
You don't like the economic mess? ...shouldn't have fired the last governor who was doing a hell of a job managing the shitty hand he was dealt. You want a movie star, you got it! Sadly, real life is a little harder to manage than movies....no stunt doubles here.
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3 edits | Reagan hasn't been president in 20 years. The majority of illegals currently here came to California long after 1988.
Davis was a joke who made California the mess it is with his endless union giveaways. Davis grew California gov't at a rate far exceeding population and inflation.
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kapil
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| said by Bit :Reagan hasn't been president in 20 years. The majority of illegals currently here came to California long after 1988. Davis was a joke who made California the mess it is with his endless union giveaways. Engaging in a a little historic revisionism, are we? Do your research...Reagan's immigration policy was a disaster. And Davis was handed an actual crisis after the dot com crash...made much worse by Enron's fraudulent energy price manipulation....a byproduct of deregulation championed by republicans. Given the shitty deal he was dealt, he was doing pretty good.
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| Davis wasn't handed shit. He increased gov't spending at rates far exceeding combined population and inflation.
Democrats have run the California legislature since Christ was a corporal, so don't try and pin California's disaster on Republicans.
California is the result of applied Obamanomics.
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kapil
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| said by Bit :California is the result of ...gross incompetence on the part of the electorate. The citizens of California are inept and selfish. Like little children you took away a governor who was actually trying to manage a crisis and put a movie star in its place. Shame on you!
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1 edit | Yes. The California electorate believes everything that the liberal fascists like Rob Reiner tell them on TV...a result of a failed public education system.
Davis was a failure who put California into it's current mess.
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kapil
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| said by Bit :Yes. The California electorate believes everything that the liberal fascists like Rob Reiner tell them on TV...a result of a failed public education system. No, the CA electorate wants to be superman when it grows up. Or an astronaut. Wait, that's not possible? Then let's put the terminator in charge of government. Never fucking mind that his only qualification regarding running a government is being married to a Kennedy.
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1 edit | Big words coming from a resident of the most corrupt government in the nation. At least our electorate is alive when it casts its votes.
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kapil
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| said by Bit :Big words coming from a resident of the most corrupt government in the nation. At least our electorate is alive when it casts its votes. Every corrupt governor we've had has ended up in Jail. Sure we pick a bad apple every so often...but we punish them for doing wrong by the people who put them in power.
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1 edit | Just like we punished Davis who trashed California. Hopefully Obamanomics will be stopped before it does to the nation what the same irresponsible socialist spending policies have done to California. But I doubt it. While the EU has wised up and kicked the crap out of the liberal fascists, the sheeple of America buy the teleprompter rhetoric hook line and sinker.
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said by S_engineer :The megacarriers have also proven that they can't build this innitiative on their own. Billions in tax credits were given to these carriers during the Clinton era, and few rewards were seen in rural areas. Few carriers do their own upgrades without pulling the teeth of shareholders, and some carriers only consider surgical upgrades to specific areas rather than system-wide. Yes there are some that stand above, but they get associated with the cutthroats like Time-Warner. The problem is that ANY solution that doesn't just enforce the status quo that you've outlined above gets labeled as anti-business, un-American, anti-capitalism, etc. and dragged through the mud and tossed out back to be shot like a lame horse.
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Bit
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00000 | That isn't true. The cable and telco bribed members of Congress just call it anti-Consumer...remember, Consumers always want to pay more and get less, at least to hear them tell it.
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