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Re: I have so little faith that government can do anything right
said by S_engineer  :Thats certainly a cynical veiwpoint. However, the fact that I concur to a certain degree is actually kind of sad! On the other hand, this is also an opportunity to make some actual progress. We'll see... Cough*amtrak*cough.
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00000 | Just about every government program is a disaster of waste and inefficiency especially now that they're being given blank checks with no transparency or oversight.
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| said by Bit :Just about every government program is a disaster of waste and inefficiency especially now that they're being given blank checks with no transparency or oversight. Any government program with the words "Universal", "Landmark", or "Social" in its title means trouble and higher taxes. Not to mention the fact that they all turn out to be money pits with no accountability.
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| said by wifi4milez :said by Bit :Just about every government program is a disaster of waste and inefficiency especially now that they're being given blank checks with no transparency or oversight. Any government program with the words "Universal", "Landmark", or "Social" in its title means trouble and higher taxes. Not to mention the fact that they all turn out to be money pits with no accountability. or worse, something that will inevitably lead to our bankruptcy...amazing how far we are along this path and the SS+medicare problem is still ignored. *sigh* |
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00000 | Unlike GM, the government can simply mandate higher "revenues" as our Governator calls them. Revenues have replaced taxes in California just as "undocumented" has replaced "illegal" here.
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1 edit | said by Bit :Unlike GM, the government can simply mandate higher "revenues" as our Governator calls them. Revenues have replaced taxes in California just as "undocumented" has replaced "illegal" here. That's what happens when you hire pretty people, regardless of their competence on the subject matter, to do important jobs.
You have millions of illegal immigrants because Reagan allowed them in. That's where this bullshit really started.
You don't like the economic mess? ...shouldn't have fired the last governor who was doing a hell of a job managing the shitty hand he was dealt. You want a movie star, you got it! Sadly, real life is a little harder to manage than movies....no stunt doubles here.
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3 edits | Reagan hasn't been president in 20 years. The majority of illegals currently here came to California long after 1988.
Davis was a joke who made California the mess it is with his endless union giveaways. Davis grew California gov't at a rate far exceeding population and inflation.
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| said by Bit :Reagan hasn't been president in 20 years. The majority of illegals currently here came to California long after 1988. Davis was a joke who made California the mess it is with his endless union giveaways. Engaging in a a little historic revisionism, are we? Do your research...Reagan's immigration policy was a disaster. And Davis was handed an actual crisis after the dot com crash...made much worse by Enron's fraudulent energy price manipulation....a byproduct of deregulation championed by republicans. Given the shitty deal he was dealt, he was doing pretty good.
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| Davis wasn't handed shit. He increased gov't spending at rates far exceeding combined population and inflation.
Democrats have run the California legislature since Christ was a corporal, so don't try and pin California's disaster on Republicans.
California is the result of applied Obamanomics.
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| said by Bit :California is the result of ...gross incompetence on the part of the electorate. The citizens of California are inept and selfish. Like little children you took away a governor who was actually trying to manage a crisis and put a movie star in its place. Shame on you!
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1 edit | Yes. The California electorate believes everything that the liberal fascists like Rob Reiner tell them on TV...a result of a failed public education system.
Davis was a failure who put California into it's current mess.
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| said by Bit :Yes. The California electorate believes everything that the liberal fascists like Rob Reiner tell them on TV...a result of a failed public education system. No, the CA electorate wants to be superman when it grows up. Or an astronaut. Wait, that's not possible? Then let's put the terminator in charge of government. Never fucking mind that his only qualification regarding running a government is being married to a Kennedy.
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1 edit | Big words coming from a resident of the most corrupt government in the nation. At least our electorate is alive when it casts its votes.
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| said by Bit :Big words coming from a resident of the most corrupt government in the nation. At least our electorate is alive when it casts its votes. Every corrupt governor we've had has ended up in Jail. Sure we pick a bad apple every so often...but we punish them for doing wrong by the people who put them in power.
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1 edit | Just like we punished Davis who trashed California. Hopefully Obamanomics will be stopped before it does to the nation what the same irresponsible socialist spending policies have done to California. But I doubt it. While the EU has wised up and kicked the crap out of the liberal fascists, the sheeple of America buy the teleprompter rhetoric hook line and sinker.
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| You do realize...Republicans widely favor the rich and big business, right? Whenever a Republican holds office the gap between the rich and poor becomes greater, innovation slows to a crawl, and extreme deregulation leads to fiscal irresponsibility. It was because of Bush our economy was trashed, we developed huge budget deficits, and we entered into 2 wars while alienating all our foreign allies. Bush actively ignored the economic experts at the Federal Reserve while pushing his own agenda, which ultimately helped the rich become even richer. That's been the case with every Republican. |
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2 edits | You do realize that all politicians are whores at the corporate lobbying trough. They're ALL for big business and anyone else who will fill their campaign war chests.
Democrats in have controlled Congress for 3 years. If they wanted to do something, they easily could have. But alas, they are all corporate whores. Now we see that there is no entity more greedy, corrupt or fiscally irresponsible than liberal government. As bad as Bush was, and he was beyond horrible, Obama quadrupled Bush's insane deficits and the CBO says Obama will DOUBLE our national debt over the next decade to the point that just servicing the debt will cost $1 trillion per year. That is a level of debt this country will NEVER be able to pay off. And their answer? Go fleece job creators even more. Steal even more of their money and send even more jobs overseas. It is NEVER shrinking government and controlling spending.
Liberals are such philanthropists when it's other people's money they are stealing and spending. But God forbid their own constituency is expected to pay their fair share, no way.
Obama's deficit spending, greed and corruption makes Bush's idiocy look like amateur hour. Obama and Pelosi's politburo are decimating this economy. Despite spending hundreds of billions, unemployment continues to rise. Now all of this insane spending has the bond markets reeling, sending interest rates higher because higher inflation is inevitable with hyper inflation a serious threat. And what do you think double digit interest rates will do for our consumer debt and housing market? How many people do you think will be able to pay down credit cards with 40% interest? What will home values look like when mortgage interest rates are 11%?
And these same people who are running the country into insolvency are the same ones claiming they can fix the healthcare system? And they are going to RAM a heathcare bill down our throats like Reed, Pelosi and el-tardo Bush did with TARP? This administration and congress are absolutely inept and corrupt. Sure, healthcare costs need to be looked at, but these socialist fools in Washington would only make it 1000X worse.
You want to see the future that is Obamanomics, just look at California. Public services are non-functional while spending is at record levels and out of control. Taxes are insanely high and productive citizens are forced to flee.
The citizens of the EU have wised up and kicked the crap out of the socialists in the recent round of elections. Hopefully in 2012, we will have the same wisdom and kick these liberal Fascists out. Maybe, just maybe we can get leadership who believes in drastically smaller government and meaningful common sense regulation.
Fat chance of that though. The liberal fascists at Move On will try and re-elect their nut jobs while the religious wackos get their latest turds that float to the top of the bowl. Oh well.
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| Bit, I hope you do understand if it wasn't for Obama's "deficit spending" as you so friendly put it, right now, our society would no longer exist. It would have collapsed and taken the world with it. Had it not been done, we'd not posting right now.
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said by Bit :Reagan hasn't been president in 20 years. The majority of illegals currently here came to California long after 1988. LOL they're blaming Reagan because they can't get away with blaming Bush anymore. 
Who's next? Nixon? Eisenhower? Lincoln?
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said by sonicmerlin :You do realize...Republicans widely favor the rich and big business, right? Then why do big Wall Street financial firms support Democrats?
said by sonicmerlin : Whenever a Republican holds office the gap between the rich and poor becomes greater, innovation slows to a crawl, and extreme deregulation leads to fiscal irresponsibility. LOL. Under Bush 43, more low income people than ever before ended up paying no federal income tax. And if you want to blame a particular president for the current so-called crisis, you might want to know that the law deregulating the banking industry was signed into law in 1999. Who was president during that year?
said by sonicmerlin : It was because of Bush our economy was trashed, Outside of 2002 and 2008 we had 6 straight years of solid economic growth.
said by sonicmerlin : we developed huge budget deficits, So has every other president. 0bama makes it an art though. His fiscal irresponsibility makes even W look like the most fiscally conservative president ever.
said by sonicmerlin :and we entered into 2 wars while alienating all our foreign allies. Yawn. 0bama has managed to piss off Israel, Germany, the UK and possibly even France all in 5 months while apologizing for just about everything "bad" that the US has ever done since the time of Adam. Is that impressive or what?
said by sonicmerlin : Bush actively ignored the economic experts at the Federal Reserve while pushing his own agenda, which ultimately helped the rich become even richer. That's been the case with every Republican. You mean the same idiots at the Federal Reserve who dumped tons of money into the financial sector (*cough*AIG*cough*) long before any calls for a bailout?
What happened when Bush did indeed listen to the Fed and started pushing for a bailout? What is happening now that 0bama is continuing these policies? We now have billions of dollars being dumped a black hole and the worst economic "crisis" since the Great Depression with no end in sight. Isn't that nice?
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