Re: Autofocus camera is nice... in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22516777 en Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:19:08 EDT Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:19:08 EDT Re: Autofocus camera is nice... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22532771 Bit : Yeah, fail. Meanwhile iPhone outsells all Windows Mobile handsets combined.
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For the record, I tethered my iphone months ago when I was in South Africa (I bought prepaid data and phone service while I was there), but then again I had to jailbreak my phone to do it. Not the ideal situation, but it worked.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22520372 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 09:10:37 EDT Re: Autofocus camera is nice... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22520269 Matt :
said by gdm See Profile :

said by djrobx See Profile :

Control by voice appears to be a 3GS-only feature too.
Which I don't understand why since that really should just be a software update. Something else with the hardware allows that.
I agree with you here. Google's application is 100% voice controlled and works VERY well. There is no reason the regular iPhone can't do that.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22520269 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 08:49:08 EDT Re: Autofocus camera is nice... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22520065 gdm :
said by djrobx See Profile :

Control by voice appears to be a 3GS-only feature too.
Which I don't understand why since that really should just be a software update. Something else with the hardware allows that.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22520065 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 07:35:08 EDT Re: Autofocus camera is nice... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22519335 djrobx : I actually didn't think the iphone 3G was much of an upgrade over the Edge version. Most of the pages I look at are limited by the browser's rendering speed. When I need to do downloads/updates I can always do them when I'm wifi connected. I'm VERY VERY interested in the 3GS's faster performance.

I didn't originally care about the camera, but looking back at my usage of the iPhone, a better camera will be a welcome addition.

Control by voice appears to be a 3GS-only feature too.
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said by rmdir See Profile :

Which happens automatically with my Android phone, courtesy of an app I run. Take a pic or video and right after it's been taken it will upload to Picasa, Youtube, Facebook, Flickr etc. Or I can send a pic or video via GMail, MMS or Twitter. And no jailbreak is needed, because the phone is quite extensible out of the box.
There are a myriad of apps that do this in the iPhone's App Store.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22518969 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 22:52:44 EDT Re: Autofocus camera is nice... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22518887 rmdir : Which happens automatically with my Android phone, courtesy of an app I run. Take a pic or video and right after it's been taken it will upload to Picasa, Youtube, Facebook, Flickr etc. Or I can send a pic or video via GMail, MMS or Twitter. And no jailbreak is needed, because the phone is quite extensible out of the box.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22518887 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 22:36:26 EDT Re: Autofocus camera is nice... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22518533 CrzyCrakr : I have to disagree on that. For a cell phone camera they are adequate. You wouldn't use it for a professional photo shoot but a few quick shots of you and your friends goofing around at your place they are fine. I still don't think that is any excuse not to have one at all though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22518533 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 21:21:19 EDT Re: Autofocus camera is nice... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22518376 dlewis23 :
said by Matt See Profile :

I have had both a WinMo 5 and WinMo 6.1 phone. Tethering aside, WinMo is pretty terrible.
Windows Mobile isn't terrible, its a complete joke. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22518376 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:50:45 EDT Re: Autofocus camera is nice... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22518255 Matt :
said by CrzyCrakr See Profile :

Without a flash...it is just pointless.
To be fair, the flash on most cell phones are worthless.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22518255 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:23:14 EDT Re: Autofocus camera is nice... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22518204 k1ll3rdr4g0n :
said by gdm See Profile :

Who said? I contacted my ATT rep and the area bosses are in a meeting. She will know once they come out.

If they don't let current 3G users upgrade to me that's a very bad move and loss of $$. At that point Verizon would be an option for me.
Hahahaha you think Apple will let you upgrade? Oh my, your funny. Now get ready to whip out that credit card and help stimulate the economy :).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22518204 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:14:06 EDT Re: Autofocus camera is nice... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22518193 CrzyCrakr : Without a flash...it is just pointless.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22518193 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:12:17 EDT Re: Autofocus camera is nice... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22518128 Matt :
said by Cjaiceman See Profile :

Which I have had all of these for a while on my Windows Mobile phone, and I don't have to jailbreak anything to tether, and no tether package needed.

iPhone is full of FAIL :p
I have had both a WinMo 5 and WinMo 6.1 phone. Tethering aside, WinMo is pretty terrible.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22518128 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 19:59:05 EDT Re: Comparison of 3G & 3Gs at this link http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22517987 OverModded :
said by Mike See Profile :

Yeah - I was going to grab one until I saw the upgrade price.

If you're on AT&T, bend over. After you swipe your card, you get "home" delivery.
Yes, that is ridiculous:

»www.crunchgear.com/2009/06/08/wa···upgrade/
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said by Cjaiceman See Profile :

Which I have had all of these for a while on my Windows Mobile phone, and I don't have to jailbreak anything to tether, and no tether package needed.

iPhone is full of FAIL :p
Wrong. It's AT&T fail. The iphone will support tethering in 3.0, AT&T doesn't want them to.
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iPhone is full of FAIL :p
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said by ptrowski See Profile :

MMS at some point near the "end of the summer" for AT&T. What a crock.
It wouldn't surprise me if they are waiting for the 7.2 Mbps network upgrade to be complete because the iPhone is such a killer of cell networks. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22517611 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 18:26:01 EDT Re: Comparison of 3G & 3Gs at this link http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22517274 Mike : Yeah - I was going to grab one until I saw the upgrade price.

If you're on AT&T, bend over. After you swipe your card, you get "home" delivery. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22517274 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:15:31 EDT Re: Autofocus camera is nice... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516893 anon :
said by ptrowski See Profile :

MMS at some point near the "end of the summer" for AT&T. What a crock.
And it'll be only in major cities when it does, and over 10 years or more trickle down (( if were lucky )) to other locatoins..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516893 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:04:36 EDT Re: Comparison of 3G & 3Gs at this link http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22517025 ptrowski :
said by OverModded See Profile :

»store.apple.com/us/browse/home/s···=MTE2OTU
That doesn't make a huge case to upgrade right now. I might just save my money.
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»www.apple.com/iphone/iphone-3g-s/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516992 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:35:55 EDT Re: Autofocus camera is nice... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516984 atuarre :
said by gdm See Profile :

Not true. Last year 2G iPhone users could upgrade to 3G no matter where you were in the contract.
They allowed you to upgrade because the 2G users payed the full, unsubsidized price.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516984 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:34:51 EDT Re: Autofocus camera is nice... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516962 Matt :
said by gdm See Profile :

Correct. I never said it was the norm for AT&T or any other carriers. I honestly think if they don't it will hurt them in the long run.
I don't think in this case it will. I wouldn't pay $199 to upgrade my 3G right now. I don't see the value in the 3GS over my 3G and I've read a lot of folks who feel the same way. Of course there will be a contingent who HAVE to have it, but by-and-large, I don't think the upgrade is as compelling as the 1G to 3G iPhone upgrade was.

Sure, the new features are nice, but the 3GS itself, minus the 3.0 software, boils down to 4 "upgrades." The new camera, a compass, HSDPA 7.2Mbps, and a faster processor. None of which are as compelling at the EDGE to 3G upgrade.

What is "right now" intriguing to me is the supposed faster processor. The 3G is already pokey and I have a feeling the 3.0 OS will only make it worse.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516962 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:31:34 EDT Re: Autofocus camera is nice... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516946 gopnick : That's because there were no carrier subsidies for the Edge iPhone.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516946 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:29:10 EDT Re: Autofocus camera is nice... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516944 gopnick :
said by gdm See Profile :

Who said? I contacted my ATT rep and the area bosses are in a meeting. She will know once they come out.

If they don't let current 3G users upgrade to me that's a very bad move and loss of $$. At that point Verizon would be an option for me.
It's in this thread.

It's on Apple's site, as well. Go through their "reserve an iPhone" deal and it'll tell you when you can get one for $199/$299.

Apple/AT&T don't owe you a new iPhone.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516944 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:28:38 EDT Re: Autofocus camera is nice... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516868 gdm : Correct. I never said it was the norm for AT&T or any other carriers. I honestly think if they don't it will hurt them in the long run.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516868 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:15:46 EDT Re: Autofocus camera is nice... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516851 Matt :
said by gdm See Profile :

Not true. Last year 2G iPhone users could upgrade to 3G no matter where you were in the contract.
That was a single instance, not the standard operating procedure. Even right now, you can't upgrade any AT&T (or Verizon, or Sprint) phone if you are in a contract without paying full price. The general consensus was AT&T/Apple offered it on the 1G iPhone because there were a lot of outraged users.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516851 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:13:01 EDT Re: Autofocus camera is nice... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516838 gdm : Not true. Last year 2G iPhone users could upgrade to 3G no matter where you were in the contract.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516838 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:10:47 EDT Re: Autofocus camera is nice... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516826 Matt :
said by gdm See Profile :

Who said? I contacted my ATT rep and the area bosses are in a meeting. She will know once they come out.

If they don't let current 3G users upgrade to me that's a very bad move and loss of $$. At that point Verizon would be an option for me.
That is SOP for all wireless carriers. Verizon used to let you if you signed a new contract, but even stopped that practice.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516826 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:09:03 EDT Re: Autofocus camera is nice... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516820 gdm : Who said? I contacted my ATT rep and the area bosses are in a meeting. She will know once they come out.

If they don't let current 3G users upgrade to me that's a very bad move and loss of $$. At that point Verizon would be an option for me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516820 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:07:58 EDT Re: Autofocus camera is nice... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516777 gopnick : I just confirmed that they are not. Until you are eligible for your upgrade, you cannot upgrade from the iPhone 3G to the 3G S unless you pay the big price tag.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516777 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:01:22 EDT Re: Autofocus camera is nice... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516520 Matt :
said by ptrowski See Profile :

MMS at some point near the "end of the summer" for AT&T. What a crock.
I have to agree.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516520 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:21:33 EDT Re: Autofocus camera is nice... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516504 gdm : Doesn't surprise me anymore with AT&T. Honestly I don't think Verizon would be much better with the iPhone either. It's a huge data consumption and the US just stinks when it comes to mobile broadband IMO.

The thing that will be interesting is if they will allow the current 3G owners to upgrade to 3GS while under contract still.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516504 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:20:27 EDT Re: Autofocus camera is nice... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516428 ptrowski : MMS at some point near the "end of the summer" for AT&T. What a crock. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516428 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:09:58 EDT Re: Autofocus camera is nice... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516417 gdm : Plus it can now do video which you can MMS or put up to Youtube/Mobile ME or email.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516417 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:08:25 EDT Autofocus camera is nice... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516409 ptrowski : My old Sony had an autofocus camera. This for me is the most exciting part.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22516409 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:07:21 EDT