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en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

reply to Matt

Re: Nice to see...

I have a Tilt - never used an iPhone (too crippling w/o Jailbreak for me).
I thought that there was some sort of issue in pulling down mp3s/pictures/video across (i.e. making mp3s into ringtones).
I understand apps can't sync w/o iTunes, and Java won't run - that's an Apple restriction (probably for the same reason as scp/ftp,etc.)


Matt
All noise, no signal.
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Jamestown, NC
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said by en102:

I have a Tilt - never used an iPhone (too crippling w/o Jailbreak for me).
I thought that there was some sort of issue in pulling down mp3s/pictures/video across (i.e. making mp3s into ringtones).
I understand apps can't sync w/o iTunes, and Java won't run - that's an Apple restriction (probably for the same reason as scp/ftp,etc.)
When you connect an iPhone to iTunes it offers to scan your music for songs it can make ringtones out of.

Apps can sync without iTunes. Actually, you can buy them over the air, along with music and with 3.0, movies. You may be confusing that with backing up apps? You have to have iTunes for that.

You're right about Java, but that hasn't been an issue yet and FWIW, I had to hack Java onto my WinMo phone too as there wasn't an official WinMo Java distribution.


en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

Interesting.. not that I'm a WinMo fan, but I've had 'Hockey Night In Canada' as a ringtone for my past Motorola phones, and my HTC Tilt. Never had to get it from a 'ringtone vendor' or scan it.

Similarly, Java came with the HTC Tilt, and a few apps (demo) were with it.
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Matt
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said by en102:

Interesting.. not that I'm a WinMo fan, but I've had 'Hockey Night In Canada' as a ringtone for my past Motorola phones, and my HTC Tilt. Never had to get it from a 'ringtone vendor' or scan it.

Similarly, Java came with the HTC Tilt, and a few apps (demo) were with it.
I think some manufacturers license a JVM to include on their phones. WinMo doesn't include one but IBM and Sun do sell them. There was a free one you can download and install, but it was an awful experience trying to get it installed and a lot of the newer apps didn't work.

The scan that iTunes offers has never found a song that couldn't be used as a ringtone, but I imagine that perhaps if a record company wanted to restrict a song purchased through iTunes as such, the iTunes DRM supports it. I have about 10GB of music, probably $500 or so that's been purchased directly through iTunes.

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