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sbrook
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Re: [ Extreme] Has Rogers ever shut any one down for overusage?

Again, it's absolutely irrelevent whether it's legal or illegal. Remember that Canada's view on legal and illegal in the realm of copyright is NOT the same as that being promoted by the US or the *AAs.

You say if you get a lot of excessive downloaders then you affect the performance. True. But that is between Rogers and the downloaders. Not us here in this forum. IF you feel YOUR performance or the service you are getting (say you may feel that you're paying more than you should because of the cost in satisfyling heavy downloaders), then it's up to you to complain to Rogers and let them work it out, not to go pointing random fingers.


dirtyjeffer
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said by sbrook:
Again, it's absolutely irrelevent whether it's legal or illegal. Remember that Canada's view on legal and illegal in the realm of copyright is NOT the same as that being promoted by the US or the *AAs.
i know, but the fact that our society is in a state of moral decay is still saddening.

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You say if you get a lot of excessive downloaders then you affect the performance. True. But that is between Rogers and the downloaders. Not us here in this forum. IF you feel YOUR performance or the service you are getting (say you may feel that you're paying more than you should because of the cost in satisfyling heavy downloaders), then it's up to you to complain to Rogers and let them work it out, not to go pointing random fingers.

but you can be sure if the users were kicked off, all hell would break loose and people would be complaining about how it isn't illegal and they weren't doing anything wrong, then you wind up with some stupid class action lawsuit (or whatever)...perhaps you have a short memory...several years ago, thousands were dumped off Bell for downloading too much and every one them bitched and moaned about it, because, technically, the service was unlimited, so there was no reason why they shouldn't be allowed to consumer 500 GIGS a month.
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Off topic ...

You know, it's an interesting observation that our society today is in no worse a state of moral decay than societies before it. We often compare life with the Victorians ... but in fact the Victorians were every bit as corrupt. The major difference is that in days of yore, people and politicians were far better able to sweep their moral transgressions under the carpet.

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Back on topic ... what Rogers must then do is to set and publish hard caps allowing a reasonable bit of elbow room above the pay more cap. Make sure every body knows they're there, AND enforce them consistently. Then there are no legit complaints about legality or class action suits etc.

Yes, Bell did eject users with hard caps AFTER Rogers indicated they were going to go with hard caps. Rogers DIDN'T implement caps, so all those Bell users flocked to Rogers. Now, both Bell and Rogers have implemented caps and are facing the same kind of issues. The problem at that time was the caps that were set were quite unreasonable (Rogers was planning 5GB and Bell 5up/5down which became 10 combined and then abandoned. The general concensus of users at that time was that 20GB would have been a far more reasonable cap.

So, all hell probably wouldn't break loose this time with reasonable caps. After all, even with pay extra caps, all hell hasn't broken loose. Where there is hell is the rest of the companies' business practices (all the major ISPs) on top of caps.


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