flycuban
join:2005-04-25
Homestead, FL
| Funny
Funny that at the end of the day - consumers still have the option of choosing whomever they want as their ISP, etc. Comcast can compete just as any other provider in the area. Consumers are NOT being forced to purchase services from any one company, unless there isn't any other company to choose from.
I wish we had some type of fiber to the home, instead of at&t's u-verse crap down here in Miami. Florida Power & Light tested BPL technology a few years ago, found out that providing internet access to residential customers would open a whole new can of worms. FPL is in the business of energy not being an ISP. Which is what most large energy companies don't want to get into. |
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TKJunkMail
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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| said by flycuban  :Funny that at the end of the day - consumers still have the option of choosing whomever they want as their ISP, etc. Comcast can compete just as any other provider in the area. Consumers are NOT being forced to purchase services from any one company, unless there isn't any other company to choose from. They are forced to take services from the electric utilty, which may be forced to subsidize the ISP services if that venture proves unprofitable. Then those electric customers could see higher rates to cover the ISP losses.
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Noah Vail
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join:2004-12-10
Lorton, VA
·RoadRunner Cable
| Out of curiosity, would you detail a publicly funded ISP Scenario that you WOULD be in favor of?
I'm just trying to figure out if (such as an O'Bama supporter would do) your conclusions are pre-determined with the supporting facts filled in later.
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digitalfreak
join:2005-12-09
49533 | There isn't one. It's all FUD with him. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
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Since this is a public effort, will others have access to the infrastructure to provide their own services for benefit of the public? Reverse argument of the one that is typically made regarding private companies not sharing their infrastructure built in municipalities' ROWs. That would be a starter for me that I would begin to favor a publicly funded ISP scenario. |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| reply to TKJunkMail
said by TKJunkMail :said by flycuban :Funny that at the end of the day - consumers still have the option of choosing whomever they want as their ISP, etc. Comcast can compete just as any other provider in the area. Consumers are NOT being forced to purchase services from any one company, unless there isn't any other company to choose from. They are forced to take services from the electric utilty, which may be forced to subsidize the ISP services if that venture proves unprofitable. Then those electric customers could see higher rates to cover the ISP losses. Yes, and Puff the Magic Dragon could fly down the street. Hey, it's possible, however it's very unlikely.
From their FAQ:
Is it fair for government to compete with the private sector?
One of government’s key responsibilities is to provide communities with infrastructure and fiber optics is a key infrastructure much like roads, sewer systems and the electric system. Well-functioning infrastructures help private businesses grow and compete which is the primary reason we think Chattanooga should have it.
Yes, we are government but we raised the capital for the construction of this project just like any company, we will have to pay franchising fees to deliver video services in each municipality just like any company, we will pay tax equivalents like any other company would. |
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Pizz
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join:2000-10-27
Astoria, NY
·Verizon Online DSL
·RoadRunner Cable
1 edit | If the Cable/Telco's were smart, they would try and ink an agreement with this FTTH muni, and be their upstream carrier to the internet. ATT in Utah was smart, and inked a deal with Utopia Networks »www.redorbit.com/news/technology···dex.html
Even though ATT is not their ISP, they still provide transit, which sill turns a very nice profit as a carrier. I'm sure Verizon (tier 1 provider) Qwest, Comcast, Time Warner Cable, all have backbones that could easily provide upstream to the internet.
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| said by Pizz :If the Cable/Telco's were smart, they would try and ink an agreement with this FTTH muni, and be their upstream carrier to the internet. ATT in Utah was smart, and inked a deal with Utopia Networks » www.redorbit.com/news/technology···dex.htmlEven though ATT is not their ISP, they still provide transit, which sill turns a very nice profit as a carrier. I'm sure Verizon (tier 1 provider) Qwest, Comcast, Time Warner Cable, all have backbones that could easily provide upstream to the internet. I agree wholeheartedly. Let the muni manage the last mile and let the incumbents provide access over it. |
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digitalfreak
join:2005-12-09
49533
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said by openbox9 :Since this is a public effort, will others have access to the infrastructure to provide their own services for benefit of the public? Reverse argument of the one that is typically made regarding private companies not sharing their infrastructure built in municipalities' ROWs. That would be a starter for me that I would begin to favor a publicly funded ISP scenario. If by "others" you mean the cable and telephone companies, then hell no. They aren't willing to open their own networks, so why should they get access to the municipality's? |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | By others I mean any viable and legal entity that wishes to use the public infrastructure to provide a service. |
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