Carr
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Re: Automotive Gauge Cluster Design Runs Linux
LOLOLOLOL. Yep.....
Well.... I run Linux and have run both Linux and Windows for many years.... I stay out of the flame wars...I like SUSe but there are a lot of good distros out there.... as we speak Im loading XP Pro on VMWare on my Linux laptop. Ah well.
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Matt
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said by Carr  :Yeah Matt I think you're right......and after an oil change or tires or brake pad replacement then you would have to re verify the Windoze installation and if it failed then you would spend 4 hours on the phone with someone in some other part of the world swearing that you were who you were supposed to be and the car wasnt a pirated clone....... I feel like the "Windows Defender™" sometimes, but let's be fair. Out of hundreds (or perhaps thousands) of installs I've done, I've had to call Microsoft for one machine and the whole process took all of 5 whopping minutes. And they have no idea where or how you've installed it, only that the hardware hash doesn't match. I've used my laptop's XP OEM key across all sorts of machines I play with at home and yet, not a single problem having MS re-activate it. Same with the original Office 2007 key I have. I activated it numerous times throughout the history of my machines, yet I've never had them deny me a re-activation. (And to be honest, it's been activated a few times on machines that aren't even mine. You get 10 activations before you have to call.)
If you have an issue with Microsoft requiring you to activate your software, deride that based upon its own merits, but when you (not literally you, a figuratively you) exaggerate how horrible the activation process is, you make it harder for me to suggest an open source product for a project because it creates a bad perception of Linux as a whole. I've run into this first hand numerous times in my career and had to fight to implement the Linux solution. I won all of them minus a single Fortune 500 company. I wasn't allowed to mention open source (the word Linux specifically) when I described the technical aspects of the project. I almost had to deploy JBoss on Windows Server because of it. Yikes! |
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Carr
join:2003-06-20
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Yeah Matt I think you're right......and after an oil change or tires or brake pad replacement then you would have to re verify the Windoze installation and if it failed then you would spend 4 hours on the phone with someone in some other part of the world swearing that you were who you were supposed to be and the car wasnt a pirated clone.......
OTOH I ve got to get out of here... I ve been worried about EMP for a while and brain waves from cellular towers and my tinfoil hat itches in this heat! A good dose of EMP would reduce a lot of this useless stuff we all follow back to some pretty shelf ornaments and it would be back to points, condenser and capillary tube gauges..... simpler way of life eh? I wonder what EMP would do to dental fillings... |
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Matt
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said by SUMware :In a Microsoft controlled vehicle you'd get the dreaded 'BDoD'. The Blue Dashboard of Death. Then you'd need to call MS, convince them that you are the vehicle title owner, and get permission from them to restart it. As opposed to Linux, where you'd have to post in a forum, wait 3 days for a reply, only to be told the EMP recovery feature is going to be added in the next release. In the mean time feel free to code the feature yourself.
Seriously though, have you used Sync? It's really slick and the execution is quite impressive for a MS product. Hopefully we'll see some alternatives start to arrive on the scene that are executed equally as well. |
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SUMware
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1 edit | reply to ropeguru
I deleted this. Please recycle. |
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SUMware
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Re: Windows XP Cash Machines Can Steal Your PIN
Never mind. Forget it.
matunga, really. geez. |
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Steve
I'm a PC, so shut up
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join:2001-03-10
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Re: Automotive Gauge Cluster Design Runs Linux
said by No_Strings :Please bicker about who's e-penis is longer elsewhere. But in terms of shortest, that would be No_Strings |
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No_Strings
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(replying to the original post, but to all)
This is my favorite forum. Not only is it dedicated to a topic I care about and use daily, it almost never requires any moderation. How we got from a prototype design for an embedded Linux device to a spat over compromised Windows devices is beyond me..
Please bicker about who's e-penis is longer elsewhere. |
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SUMware
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1 edit | reply to Steve
Re: Windows XP Cash Machines Can Steal Your PIN
I AM NOT, NOR HAVE I EVER BEEN, matunga. I promise! Geez!
Yes, I strongly support FOSS. Guilty.
Yes, I find many of MS' well documented tactics unappealing and frequently skirting legality, if not plunging overboard. Groklaw and numerous others have published the sordid details over the years.
said by Steve :said by Lurkarooski : I think you owe SUMware an apology for that comparison. As do I; this is not even close. Thank you, you are gentlemen. Sorry about being strident, Steve.
said by Matt :Although I think both methods are disingenuous. strident - loud, harsh, grating, or shrill; discordant. See Synonyms at loud, vociferous.
vociferous - loud and forceful
disingenuous - not straightforward or candid; insincere or calculating
Disingenuous? I strive to be accurate and clear.
said by Matt :So if I offended anyone, I apologize. Anyone in particular? |
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Matt
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said by Steve :said by Matt : From what I have seen of both, neither are open minded to dissenting opinions. I was merely attempting to illustrate that Matunga is as anti-Linux as Sumware is anti-Microsoft. No: SUMware has a strident view, but he sticks around to at least attempt to defend his position. matunga engages in drive-by shillery. I agree with that. Although I think both methods are disingenuous.
Regardless, it was tongue in cheek as I don't actually think they are the same person. So if I offended anyone, I apologize. |
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Steve
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said by Matt : From what I have seen of both, neither are open minded to dissenting opinions. I was merely attempting to illustrate that Matunga is as anti-Linux as Sumware is anti-Microsoft. No: SUMware has a strident view, but he sticks around to at least attempt to defend his position.
matunga engages in drive-by shillery. |
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Matt
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said by Steve :said by Lurkarooski : I think you owe SUMware an apology for that comparison. As do I; this is not even close. From what I have seen of both, neither are open minded to dissenting opinions. I was merely attempting to illustrate that Matunga is as anti-Linux as Sumware is anti-Microsoft. |
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Steve
I'm a PC, so shut up
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said by Lurkarooski : I think you owe SUMware an apology for that comparison. As do I; this is not even close. |
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Lurkarooski
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said by Matt :Personally, I think Sumware and Matunga are the same guy. They are both equally zealous if a bit misguided -- a ying and yang if you will. Now that's a low blow, no matter how you look at it.
SUMware may be an unabashed Linux advocate, but he will always engage in discussions of his posts, which are usually informative at least, and legitimate. Matunga's 'smear-and-run' posts are quite a different animal.
I think you owe SUMware an apology for that comparison.
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Matt
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said by Steve :You seem positively determined to make this about Microsoft, but it's not. That sounds positively shilly there Steve 
Personally, I think Sumware and Matunga are the same guy. They are both equally zealous if a bit misguided -- a ying and yang if you will.
As to the original article, that's neat. Linux does a lot of neat things and is perfect for most embedded applications. |
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SUMware
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Re: Automotive Gauge Cluster Design Runs Linux
said by Santa Fe :But how do you update it? Yast, Synaptic Package Manager, or Adept?  Ya know, one day that may be possible. After all, it is software. Why not develop specialized packages, region-specific, or adaptable upgrades for example? |
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usa2k
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US Robotic down-link. |
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Santa Fe
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But how do you update it? Yast, Synaptic Package Manager, or Adept? |
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SUMware
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said by ropeguru :Personally, I think the things it can do are great. But the looks of it are horrible. The design is said to be highly customizable by automotive OEMs, enabling a wide range of dashboard designs for entry-level to high-end cars.
And maybe further on 'down the road', with evolving Linux technology, OEMs might offer dash configuration systems similar to desktops. The car user could tailor dash elements and placement to individual preferences. |
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ropeguru
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Bridgeport, WV
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Personally, I think the things it can do are great. But the looks of it are horrible. |
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