Selvaed
@com.mx
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Re: Defcon 1?: Massive ATA failure
MJ should immediately make an Iphone APp. It would be worth to me and I am sure to alot of people. MJ people!!!!! This is FEEdBaCK!!! No rocket science.
You could charge for it. I would pay 3-5 bucks.
Otherwise. Another carrier will and lots of people will switch. |
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avd706
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Union, NJ | why would you want a phone on a phone???
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RockyBB
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join:2005-01-31
Longmont, CO
1 edit | reply to amigo_boy
said by amigo_boy  :I've had a funny feeling I don't buy that MJ was waiting for a significant percentage to hack the dongle before closing the door ... remember that MJ needs eyeballs to sell advertising and any internet marketing firm researching MJ will run across the various hack threads ... so that's a door that MJ needs to keep closed. They sent a message that was unheard the first time ... they've now warned a 2nd time. To maintain any integrity in their attempt to sell real advertising, they must continue to police the cheaters. (The Mob can steal from you, but you're not allowed to steal from the Mob!)
I also don't buy the concept that MJ is purposely disabling devices to not have to fulfill the network service -- if we want to talk about Ian Fleming type stuff, let's talk about the purpose of the difficult to UNINSTALL advertising software.
But I am certain that MJ's policy of disrespectful customer service was originally developed with the intent in mind to encourage customers abandoning their prepayments. That's a big "duh" in my book. Customers that are easy to install are cheap to acquire; customers that are difficult to install are a lost cause and aren't worth MJ's time and effort at the selling price. And who cares if they quit the service ... the software remains on the machine! In my mind, there's no way that was not discussed in the development meetings prior to launch. |
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amigo_boy
join:2005-07-22
Tempe, AZ
 ·Cox HSI
 ·magicjack.com
1 edit | said by RockyBB :... if we want to talk about Ian Fleming type stuff, let's talk about the purpose of the difficult to UNINSTALL advertising software. I've never thought the uninstall issue was that important. But...
I just saw this posting on the MJsupport forum:
said by j1sjeep :... perusing my dumpfile learning more about the upgrade. ... When I stumbled upon my usernames and passwords [from] a web-based utility I use at WORK[,] and MY ONLINE BANKING information. -- » www.magicjacksupport.com/potenti···664.html
In case others want to check, he used pmdump to dump the magicjack.exe process from memory to a file.
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RockyBB
Premium
join:2005-01-31
Longmont, CO
| said by amigo_boy :I've never thought the uninstall issue was that important. But... Sounds like it might be time to start printing up some RockyBB Fan Club T-shirts! 
Imagine the complexity of trying to roll-back all the software installs ... it would be like an AIDS investigation ... you'll have to fill out a survey and disclose all the computers your dongle has been inserted into.
Seriously, I hope this is a false alarm, and that no one has been or will be hurt by this. |
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laserjobs
Premium
join:2004-05-02
Las Vegas, NV
·Cox HSI
| reply to amigo_boy
said by amigo_boy :said by RockyBB :... if we want to talk about Ian Fleming type stuff, let's talk about the purpose of the difficult to UNINSTALL advertising software. I've never thought the uninstall issue was that important. But... I just saw this posting on the MJsupport forum: said by j1sjeep :... perusing my dumpfile learning more about the upgrade. ... When I stumbled upon my usernames and passwords [from] a web-based utility I use at WORK[,] and MY ONLINE BANKING information. -- » www.magicjacksupport.com/potenti···664.html In case others want to check, he used pmdump to dump the magicjack.exe process from memory to a file. Mark If you are concerned about privacy, then you should monitor your connection with Wireshark. Nobody has seen any private information transferred to magicJack's servers yet. What you are seeing is the programs resident memory from the IE module. Sorry to disappoint but there is no security breach going on. |
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MJ BYOD
@comcast.net
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said by JPMorgan :What does the TOS have to do with using there service? Using a personal device to use a service you paid for does not violate the TOS. That's not true. See: said by MagicJack ToS :
I'm sure any court would uphold that MJ has the right to secure it's network and require only its devices use it.
Mark
I disagree. Look at what the Department of Justice did to the Bell System back in 1984. They broke it up to allow anyone to attach any device to the network, in addition to spurring innovation and killing the monopoly. The Bell System argued that they were protecting their network by ensuring that their "quality" products could be attached and thereby avoiding outages.
I'm sure at some point someone will challenge the MJ ToS. Until then, they get to call the shots. |
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bubamarkus
join:2006-08-29
Tampa, FL | reply to Noga
Can somebody figure out how to get MJ to work on ATAs again instead of debating the legal issues? |
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louienow
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bubamarkus
join:2006-08-29
Tampa, FL
| reply to Noga
An easy way to block ATAs use for MagicJack software would be to sync SIP calls with web access (ex. talk4free.com+your account info). They have been doing this already. That is how ads are played. Now they probably use it to block ATAs. If there is no inquiry to ther http server, they simply do not connect the call. |
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r81984
Fair and Balanced
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join:2001-11-14
St John'S, NL
·magicjack.com
·Cox HSI
·Insight Communicat..
 ·AT&T Midwest
| reply to avd706
said by avd706 :why would you want a phone on a phone??? Free calls to Canada. Cheap calls internationally.
Unlimited calls that do not go against your minutes.
...but, there is no way ATT would allow this. They want to steal your money instead.
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dbmaven
There's no shortage
Premium,Mod
join:1999-10-26
Sty in Sky
clubs: |  reply to Noga
(topic move) Why MJ sucks
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RT31P2VDgui
join:2008-09-09
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
1 edit | reply to r81984
Re: Defcon 1?: Massive ATA failure
I've found a solution that brings back the ATA into the picture for not much more than MJ!!!
(Thanks to the admin @ HayTek Gadgets.)
I've been using sipgate since they cut us off from ATA usage. SipGate which launched June 2nd. Hmmm...My ATA/MJ died on that day; Oh well.
They even give you your SIP credentials without trying to hack them! Amazing! Sorry Dan. I know it's your policy; But I need a STABLE SIP provider that doesn't keep me from MY own account SIP credentials.
Best of all it is free to "Test Drive" for a month or 200 free outgoing(Incoming Free!!!) minutes; Whichever comes first. No credit card is needed to try out. After that it is a flat fee of 0.019¢(2¢) a minute. They don't have a monthly phone bill either. They have a really nice online Web UI with prepay service much like Skype & Yahoo Voice. Except much better quality in my opinion(ATA behind sipgate's stable Asterisk servers).
The Downside: They do not have many area codes or prefixes available at the time I signed up. Keep in mind that this service just launched just over a month ago. Also they do not "Port" your old phone number yet either.
Lastly, The only monthly fee they charge is less than 2 dollars a month for mandatory E911 service. I've asked them in an email if it is possible to "OPT Out" of this service & they told me that it is required by the FCC. I guess several people died when 911 couldn't pinpoint their location due to improper forwarded E911 service or no E911 service at all.
Here is an excerpt from a sipgate support email:
As for E911 we offer this service in compliance with federal regulations. As this service is mandated by the FCC we cannot allow you to opt out and it comes with any account which is used for both incoming and outgoing calls. However, as long as you use your sipgate account to solely receive calls on a VoIP phone our service is entirely free of charge and we do not even charge you for E911 as we do not provide E911 in this case. If you like to learn more about E911 as federally mandated, please, visit
»www.fcc.gov/pshs/services/911-se···ome.html
What do you guys & gals think? I know there is other options which may be free but this is a complete package that no one has to try to figure out & is still dirt cheap & reliable. Sorry about hijacking this thread, but as far as I can see; MJ/ATA is dead for now.
RT31P2VDgui
(NA-ized),RT31P2-NA (Unmodded Real 3.1.9 LId) as primary ATA. |
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r81984
Fair and Balanced
Premium
join:2001-11-14
St John'S, NL | That looks interesting.
Free number and free incoming.
Then 1.9 cents a minute for US and Canada for outgoing.
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RT31P2VDgui
join:2008-09-09
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
| Indeed!
Also like most other VOIP providers they don't charge you for outgoing(Or incoming) to other SipGate members. I need to get the rest of my neighbors, family & friends on this; Too bad that there is no referral program[Not that I need it at this price]. Only the $300 a year SIP providers offer this program(Go Figure). |
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viafax999
join:2000-06-03
Westford, MA | reply to avd706
why would you want a phone on a phone???
Because the app could run on the IPOD Touch which with os3 id BT enabled. |
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linusarran
join:2009-02-17
Inkster, MI | reply to Noga
Did any one find a way to make MJ work again using ATA? |
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DamnYouDAN
@mindspring.com | reply to Noga
As of now ATA are dead on magicjack. DAN is too good to be hack  |
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CakeOrDeath
@rr.com | I guess it time to check out OOMA. I've heard good things about it. One good thing is the don't use the G.711 codec like MJ |
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NotTellin
@sbcglobal.net | Those who know do not say... we are grey... we route between the ata and the star. |
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