Topic 'Re: I hope so.' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22529417 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:04:55 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:04:55 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22538319 john]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22538319 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:06:56 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22534012 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22534012 Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:18:48 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22533843
»MMS AT&T, Verizon & the iPhone

Apple is one of the nimblest and broad thinking companies in the technology business. They don't think one or 2 steps ahead of their current plans, but 3 or 4 and a few off to the side as well.

You don't stay ahead of the pack for so long by staying in one spot. Say what you will about Apple, but they sure as shit make their shareholders a nice chunk of change....
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like i said it ISENT a smatphone, you need to re-read what i post
I'm trying!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22533073 Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:43:49 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22533004 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22533004 Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:28:13 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22532878 said by OSUGoose:

And the enV Touch ISENT a smartphone
No. It's not.

»news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10257867-1.html

From the first paragraph:The recently released LG enV Touch is no smartphone like the iPhone or Palm Pre]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22532878 Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:02:38 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22532361 said by Just me chillin :

But LTE doesn't carry voice it only carries data. It's a pure data play right now just like Wimax is. If Apple made an LTE iPhone for Verizon it would need to include a CDMA radio as well for voice.
Wrong, the voice is VOIP basically over the data portion..
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Verizon's LTE implementation will have speeds up to 100Mb/s. That will be in the field, not just a lab.

Secondly, while LTE will be for carrying Data, there will be voice running on it. Voice will become "just another service" running over data.

:p]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22532183 Thu, 11 Jun 2009 02:04:18 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22532124 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22532124 Thu, 11 Jun 2009 01:44:17 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22531700 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22531700 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:43:54 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22531487 could but wouldn't switch to Intel processors - fast forward a few years, and their new OS, 10.6 Snow Leopard, will be Intel-only.
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I agree.
I still think that manufacturing (chipset) would have to kick it up a notch, as there is no CDMA based iPhone anywhere.I can think of 86.6 million reasons why it would be absolutely no problem for Apple to design a CDMA version of the phone in short order if the need be.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22531416 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:53:05 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22530817 said by Matt:

said by chilibball:

This is not true. My brother has the env touch and he has the unlimited vcast vpack for 20 a month. 60 a month is for pc data card plans. if you would like a link, just reply. :)
Smartphones require a $45 a month plan. It's an extra $15 for tethering.
But they at least do specifically allow tethering.
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This is not true. My brother has the env touch and he has the unlimited vcast vpack for 20 a month. 60 a month is for pc data card plans. if you would like a link, just reply. :)
Smartphones require a $45 a month plan. It's an extra $15 for tethering.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22530770 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:48:00 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22530716 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22530716 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:37:26 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22530584 said by fiberguy:

You know, "say" they are not going to do a CDMA version, yet Apple was recruiting CDMA people about 6 months back... why would they be if they had no plans?

Apple is good at one thing, and that is keeping people confused and guessing. So, it's really hard to say WHAT exactly their plans are.
That's a good point. I forgot they were advertising for engineers and developers with CDMA experience.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22530584 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:13:38 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22530575
Apple is good at one thing, and that is keeping people confused and guessing. So, it's really hard to say WHAT exactly their plans are.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22530575 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:12:35 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22530389 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22530389 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:34:28 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22530090 said by Just me chillin :

But LTE doesn't carry voice it only carries data. It's a pure data play right now just like Wimax is. If Apple made an LTE iPhone for Verizon it would need to include a CDMA radio as well for voice.
LTE was designed to be an AIPN or All IP Network. They'd simply utilize VoIP or some derivative.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22530090 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:34:17 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22530067 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22530067 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:30:33 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22530024 --
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Still, heckuva lot better than 1-2 Mbps on HSPA. EvDO can work just as quickly as the iPhone's current HSPA setup FWIW, so i wouldn't mind a CDMA EvDO iPhone without the LTE...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22529904 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:56:22 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22529893
But yes, I'd LOVE to see someone other than AT&T carrying the iPhone.

Though my unlocked first-gen iPhone seems to perform decently on the voice/text side (less than stellar with data at the moment) on a local carrier's EDGE network (Five Star Wireless). Five bars...everywhere.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22529893 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:53:54 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22529821 EVDO Rev A / LTE would actually be possible (VoIP all the way), but I don't suspect that everything is quite mature enough yet. 18 months from now - it may be.

It is in Apple's best interest to play the game, and tease AT&T until they have another carrier that works with Apple's chipset. Since Apple doesn't have CDMA or UMTS on AWS, AT&T is the only carrier in the country that 'can' use the iPhone.
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Another 12-18 months would be a perfect time to release a new iPhone that has been designed for GSM/LTE. I'm not completely familiar w/ LTE--is it an evolutionary step to 1x/EVDO, meaning that an LTE device can fall back to those earlier modes?

If not, then it doesn't seem like a GSM/LTE hybrid would be a magic bullet for VZ as it would require them to switch on LTE networks in a massive number of territories within a very short amount of time--or else be seen as offering only a tiny footprint for iPhone 4G users to operate within.

GSM/LTE makes more sense for AT&T however as when 4G is not available the device could at the very worst fall back to 2G.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22529784 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:32:45 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22529778 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22529778 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:31:55 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22529734 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22529734 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:24:12 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22529709 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22529709 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:19:44 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22529674 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22529674 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:13:31 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22529574 said by en102:

I agree.
I still think that manufacturing (chipset) would have to kick it up a notch, as there is no CDMA based iPhone anywhere.

T-Mobile 'could' get an iPhone if Apple has a flexible radio for AWS 3G, otherwise its just a 2G version
I don't think they'll release a CDMA version. I fully expect Apple to bend AT&T over right now and then stab them in the back on the exclusivity agreement when Verizon and AT&T migrate to LTE. Verizon is saying 2010 for LTE to become available, that's only 6 to 18 months away ...

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Another 12-18 months would be a perfect time to release a new iPhone that has been designed for GSM/LTE. Just in time for the Christmas season but plenty of time for the 3GS to make money -- it's not like the 3GS is THAT different from the 3G, so I doubt there was a huge R&D cost.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22529574 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:57:50 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22529557 I still think that manufacturing (chipset) would have to kick it up a notch, as there is no CDMA based iPhone anywhere.

T-Mobile 'could' get an iPhone if Apple has a flexible radio for AWS 3G, otherwise its just a 2G version
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Do we know when the negotiations are due to be over?
Officially, July 2010. We should know more about any agreements in the months before that.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22529505 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:47:54 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22529501
Apple should be ashamed that they signed an exclucivity deal; its completely unlike the company to let the people that want their product, not have it]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22529501 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:47:16 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22529500 said by me1212:

That would mean more competition which is a good thing. And if sprint got the iphone I would get it, maybe even verizon.
I also think the AT&T exclusivity agreement should be scrapped. AT&T has done a piss poor job of supporting the device and Apple would open the door to 100 million or so new untapped customers on the Verizon/Sprint network.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22529500 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:47:15 EDT Re: I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22529497 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-hope-so-22529497 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:47:08 EDT I hope so. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/I-hope-so-22529417 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/I-hope-so-22529417 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:36:35 EDT