 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
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Jamestown, NC
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Re: I hope so. said by en102:I agree. I still think that manufacturing (chipset) would have to kick it up a notch, as there is no CDMA based iPhone anywhere. T-Mobile 'could' get an iPhone if Apple has a flexible radio for AWS 3G, otherwise its just a 2G version I don't think they'll release a CDMA version. I fully expect Apple to bend AT&T over right now and then stab them in the back on the exclusivity agreement when Verizon and AT&T migrate to LTE. Verizon is saying 2010 for LTE to become available, that's only 6 to 18 months away ...
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Another 12-18 months would be a perfect time to release a new iPhone that has been designed for GSM/LTE. Just in time for the Christmas season but plenty of time for the 3GS to make money -- it's not like the 3GS is THAT different from the 3G, so I doubt there was a huge R&D cost. |
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 gdmPremium,MVM
join:2001-06-15
Mchenry, IL
kudos:3 | That's my thinking as well and reason for not upgrading to 3GS yet. If Verizon can get a LTE iPhone they would win back many customers on AT&T. |
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But LTE doesn't carry voice it only carries data. It's a pure data play right now just like Wimax is. If Apple made an LTE iPhone for Verizon it would need to include a CDMA radio as well for voice. |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | They may be able to use VoIP. LTE has ping times of like as low as 10ms, and is capable of 100/50. |
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bemis
join:2008-07-18
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said by Matt:Another 12-18 months would be a perfect time to release a new iPhone that has been designed for GSM/LTE. I'm not completely familiar w/ LTE--is it an evolutionary step to 1x/EVDO, meaning that an LTE device can fall back to those earlier modes?
If not, then it doesn't seem like a GSM/LTE hybrid would be a magic bullet for VZ as it would require them to switch on LTE networks in a massive number of territories within a very short amount of time--or else be seen as offering only a tiny footprint for iPhone 4G users to operate within.
GSM/LTE makes more sense for AT&T however as when 4G is not available the device could at the very worst fall back to 2G. |
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 en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to Just me chillin
They'd have to deploy 1x/EVDO/LTE. for voice and coverage.
EVDO Rev A / LTE would actually be possible (VoIP all the way), but I don't suspect that everything is quite mature enough yet. 18 months from now - it may be.
It is in Apple's best interest to play the game, and tease AT&T until they have another carrier that works with Apple's chipset. Since Apple doesn't have CDMA or UMTS on AWS, AT&T is the only carrier in the country that 'can' use the iPhone.
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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Verizon is saying 8-12 Mbps down on LTE. 100/50 is in labs. Just like WiMAX is 70 Mbps...in labs n 20MHz channels.
Still, heckuva lot better than 1-2 Mbps on HSPA. EvDO can work just as quickly as the iPhone's current HSPA setup FWIW, so i wouldn't mind a CDMA EvDO iPhone without the LTE... |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | reply to bemis
LTE is a totally new tech. It isn't backward compatible with anything unless you put another "old" radio in the phone. |
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They may yeah but Verizon won't. The anonymous poster above is correct. |
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MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | reply to Just me chillin
said by Just me chillin :
But LTE doesn't carry voice it only carries data. It's a pure data play right now just like Wimax is. If Apple made an LTE iPhone for Verizon it would need to include a CDMA radio as well for voice.
LTE was designed to be an AIPN or All IP Network. They'd simply utilize VoIP or some derivative. |
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| Well I would say they would probably just make a phone that supports it all, but making two hardware versions only increases the chance of selling more devices. |
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | reply to Matt
You know, "say" they are not going to do a CDMA version, yet Apple was recruiting CDMA people about 6 months back... why would they be if they had no plans?
Apple is good at one thing, and that is keeping people confused and guessing. So, it's really hard to say WHAT exactly their plans are. |
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MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | said by fiberguy:You know, "say" they are not going to do a CDMA version, yet Apple was recruiting CDMA people about 6 months back... why would they be if they had no plans? Apple is good at one thing, and that is keeping people confused and guessing. So, it's really hard to say WHAT exactly their plans are. That's a good point. I forgot they were advertising for engineers and developers with CDMA experience. |
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First things first...
Verizon's LTE implementation will have speeds up to 100Mb/s. That will be in the field, not just a lab.
Secondly, while LTE will be for carrying Data, there will be voice running on it. Voice will become "just another service" running over data.
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 NOCManMacChatterPremium
join:2004-09-30
Colorado Springs, CO | reply to Just me chillin
said by Just me chillin :
But LTE doesn't carry voice it only carries data. It's a pure data play right now just like Wimax is. If Apple made an LTE iPhone for Verizon it would need to include a CDMA radio as well for voice.
Wrong, the voice is VOIP basically over the data portion..
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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10 Mbps might be aggregate over a whole tower, which with 700 MHz will cover a lot of territory. Also, lower modulations will be needed to get the signal out to all areas just like any other wireless technollogy. Verizon has been quoted as saying 8-12 Mbps is a realistic estimate for the speeds people will see with LTE gear on their network. Which still isn't bad...that's faster than 99.9% of the areas that don't have cable/DSL but will have LTE. |
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