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F430

@qwest.net

reply to CraftyPirate
Re: WPA cracking, are you scared yet?

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This is for AES WPA-PSK standard, just another reason why you should hide your *non-standard* ssid
I was with you until you wrote this. Obviously you have limited knowledge of how wireless works. Otherwise you would know how pointless it is to reduce the number of times your SSID is transmitted (you cannot "hide" it). This kind of FUD destroys any useful message you may have tried to get across.


CraftyPirate

join:2006-03-21
Saint Paul, MN

said by F430 :

quote:
...you would know how pointless it is to reduce the number of times your SSID is transmitted (you cannot "hide" it).
Perhaps I should have reworded it so that it is not being "broadcasted." Limiting the number of times the ssid it is visible in plain-text can reduce the likelihood that it is exposed to being attacked. Both the ssid and passphrase are hashed in the encryption process so therefore without forehand knowledge of the ssid, the attacker is at least somewhat mitigated in his efforts but the mitigation nonetheless does have impact.


JohnInSJ
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join:2003-09-22
San Jose, CA
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So l33t haxxor is sitting at the curb with his 27 node cluster, and me having my ssid hidden is going to protect me? Seriously?

Yeah, I'm not scared yet.
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Lasko

@qwest.net

reply to CraftyPirate
quote:
so therefore without forehand knowledge of the ssid,
You mean like not receiving the signal from the AP? If you are able to receive the signal from the AP you are able to see the SSID in cleartext. So how do you have no forehand knowledge of the SSID? Could you explain this, please? I think F430 and other are correct - use a unique SSID and don't bother trying to hide it since you are only fooling yourself.

BTW - brute force attacks are nothing new - they are far older then electronic communication. The weaker your passphrase the more likely the attack will succeed. If you use a good passphrase knowing the SSID is not going to have a measurable effect on the success/failure of the attack.
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