gamer11200
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| Rogers to offer 50 megabit service for $149.99
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 Eahaih
join:2004-03-08
Etobicoke, ON | Re: Rogers to offer 50 megabit service for $149.99 Download speed is irrelevant. What people really want is higher or no caps and faster uploads. While 50MB connection would be great it wont matter if you have 50gb cap to along with it. | |
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JohnDenlin
@rogers.com | Re: Rogers to offer 50 megabit service for $149.99 Yeah.. that way i can hit their monthy cap in 4 hours not 20 | |
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join:2006-08-12
Toronto | Re: Rogers to offer 50 megabit service for $149.99 ^ Someone seriously ought to call in and ask about that, lol. | |
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| spartan002
join:2008-12-22
Brampton, ON | god bless you eeahaih you stole the words out of my mind. | |
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annondaks
@rogers.com
| Rogers dropped the 18/1 service in the downtown T.O core cause they don't have the infrastructure to handle it. Now they want to offer 50??
At 149.99 it's also a rip-off, why is anything to do with the internet 1/3 to 2x more expensive here in Canada than almost any other place in the world. Rogers and Bell have put us below the standards of a lot of "3rd world" countries.
Tell you what Rogers... drop your marketing budget into infrastructure upgrades. I don't want to see you name on every TV commercial and pasted all over junkmail in my mailbox and all over every billboard and sports building. What I do want is a cost competitive internet that is not capped so tight I use my quota up in a week!
Cost of bandwidth is going down for you and for the rest of the world.... yet your prices keep going up and your caps go down.
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| Rayson
join:2004-01-01
Canada
| Re: Rogers to offer 50 megabit service for $149.99 said by annondaks :
At 149.99 it's also a rip-off, why is anything to do with the internet 1/3 to 2x more expensive here in Canada than almost any other place in the world.
I think Canadians are cursed! Not only Internet service, but we also pay much more for gas, books, and pretty much everything else. We will be taxed to death unless we get a job in eHealth! | |
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mlerner
Premium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON | If it's 50 then it'll be DOCSIS 3 and it can handle that kind of speed but the question again is the caps and if they're the same low caps then it's overpriced. | |
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Elwood Blues
join:2006-08-30
Toronto, ON
| Re: Rogers to offer 50 megabit service for $149.99 It's all about having the service available, not about actually being able to use it. And I'm sure it will be UP To 50mb, so if you get 1mb you get hi speed
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Stewy
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join:2007-12-12
Kitchener, ON
| said by mlerner  :If it's 50 then it'll be DOCSIS 3 and it can handle that kind of speed but the question again is the caps and if they're the same low caps then it's overpriced. If 50Mbps is only with DOCSIS 3 then yea caps are not necessary.
My question remains, how is Rogers going to justify caps with docsis 3. If they say that a 250Gig cap is necessary with docsis 3 then there's something wrong with Rogers. | |
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mlerner
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Nepean, ON
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| Re: Rogers to offer 50 megabit service for $149.99 said by Stewy :said by mlerner :If it's 50 then it'll be DOCSIS 3 and it can handle that kind of speed but the question again is the caps and if they're the same low caps then it's overpriced. If 50Mbps is only with DOCSIS 3 then yea caps are not necessary. My question remains, how is Rogers going to justify caps with docsis 3. If they say that a 250Gig cap is necessary with docsis 3 then there's something wrong with Rogers. 38 Mbit/s is the max usable speed on DOCSIS 2 so yes it will have to be DOCSIS 3. | |
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Angelo_
The Network Guy
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join:2002-06-18 | Re: Rogers to offer 50 megabit service for $149.99 this is robbers i wouldnt expect a descent service from them | |
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Tristan
join:2006-09-10
Nepean, ON
·Rogers Hi-Speed
| Faster download speeds would be nice, but what I really need is faster upload speeds, higher caps, and an ISP that can make things happen with less bullshit.
I don't really care about what is possible with DOCSIS2, or that I'll have to upgrade my modem when DOCSIS3 rolls out. Rogers is spoon-feeding us internet service using a baby spoon. I very much prefer dunking my whole head into the internet feeding trough. | |
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apn
join:2009-05-07
canada
| It doesn't look anything like a good deal when a US cable operator is rolling out 101Mbps unlimited service for $99/mo, especially when you also consider the dollar is trading close to parity again.
As usual, Robbers is offering 1/2 the rate at 50% higher price (making 4x more expensive) and no mention of where they'll impose their draconian cap structure.
Sadly, this country is in the dark ages when it comes to mobile phones, internet and other technology services, and Bell, Robbers and the like are doing their best to keep it that way  | |
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Stewy
Premium
join:2007-12-12
Kitchener, ON
| Anyone who pays $150 for 50Mbps with 95Gig cap needs to have their heads examined. Seriously get medical advice immediately. 
I have a friend in Sweden who has an un-throttled true 50Mbps connection with a 15T/month 500Gig/day cap and they pay $42Usd/month tax included.
They had a good laugh at my 5-7Mbps Extreme up 10Mbps 95Gig capped throttled and DPI'd connection for $65Usd +tax | |
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| elec999
join:2005-12-19
·Acanac
·Rogers Hi-Speed
| Re: Rogers to offer 50 megabit service for $149.99 Dear friends. $149.99 a month for 50mbits + plus if they have their $25 overage fee, it would be acceptable. Also the Sweden internet, the thing is damn fast within Sweden, outside your connections will drop to slow as help. Connect to a USA server to download a LINUX iso from a 50mbit Swiss ISP, you will get 5mbit or less. | |
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thor_
@bredband2.com
| Re: Rogers to offer 50 megabit service for $149.99 That's actually not true. Some of the larger and cheaper residential Swedish ISPs will throttle external outbound traffic, depending on the time of day, to save on transit fees. Dedicated business lines don't normally have this restriction, the service is left open to its full potential. Bredband2 is a good example of an ISP with such a policy. However, some independent ISPs with very limited availability, and the dominant state-funded ISP, TELIA AB, use an equal network policy for all customers, where it is possible to transfer 10MB/s between say, Stockholm and Sydney. | |
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dazedandconfused
@rogers.com | Bu..bu..bu...but I could load the weather channel so much faster though.
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sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
H0H 0H0
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| Rayson, you haven't been to Europe to see what THEY pay for gas! At one time it was worse than today ... Throughout Europe it's virtually DOUBLE what we pay. At one time, not that many years ago if you used the price of gas in the US as a reference of 1 ... Canada was nearly 2 ... Great Britain was 4 and continental Europe nearly 8!
We don't do so bad on the world stage for gas! | |
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sbrook
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join:2001-12-14
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| This is another case of Rogers having the fastest. Videotron has 30Mbps.
Far more important to most of us is to offer decent bandwidth at lower speeds. I'm a speedfreak because I loathe waiting (those current Rogers ads on TV were aimed at me, I'm sure!).
I would be far happier if they'd sort out some price points and existing speeds. This "increase the price" mode they're in now is ridiculous. | |
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hmmm
@videotron.ca
| Re: Rogers to offer 50 megabit service for $149.99 said by sbrook :This is another case of Rogers having the fastest. Videotron has 30Mbps. videotron has had this out for a while now.. Last fall? (excluding the 300-meg test bed area's)
»www.videotron.com/services/en/in···tion.jsp
-Download speed of 50 Mbps and upload speed of 1 Mbps
-Monthly data transfer capacity of 100 GB combined (upload and download)
with contract: $79.95 / month
w/o contract: $89.95 / month
worthless garbage if you ask me with those ridiculous b/w caps.
..and rogers is charging almost double than videotron?
Insane.
...and no Rogers is not the fastest. 
both are not worth it. | |
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sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
H0H 0H0 | Re: Rogers to offer 50 megabit service for $149.99 I sit corrected, I thought videotron's was 30.
Videotron's price point is far closer the mark though, although the caps for that speed are low. | |
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too pricey
@videotron.ca
| Re: Rogers to offer 50 megabit service for $149.99 caps are very low and its sky is the limit over-charges after 100-gigs. No price cap.
not sure about this Rogers thing though.
Better value can be had with the unlimited videotron business internet (7.5 or 10-meg ~70$ and ~95$). Don't know if Rogers offers that though.
I'd like to see videotron break into Ontario (though they have some small area in Ottawa some place), but that would be something like competition which isn't allowed in Canada.
150$ is totally insane with a 95-gig cap (and I thought videotron was insane).
I agree with stewy. Seek help if you buy this. | |
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daT
CSM 101
Premium
join:2002-09-15
Toronto, ON | mwahahahahaha... oh, sorry.. they're serious.
*cough* nvm.  | |
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CFoo
join:2008-03-19
Nepean, ON | So what was your answer to the question? | |
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JAC70
join:2008-10-20 | Not. A. Chance. In. Hell. | |
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Robrr
join:2008-04-19
Toronto, ON
1 edit | Didn't Shaw offer a 50/10 service at about the same price before dropping it to like $99.99? | |
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Sunfox
join:2003-12-14
Markham, ON
| Doesn't Rogers claim that the vast majority of their customers barely use the internet? At least that's what I call the kind of data they claim those users are pushing. So, since all they're doing is downloading emails and surfing Craigslist, how exactly would wooing them from their current "instant" connection to this "uber expensive instant" really work?
If anyone actually wants 50mbit and would pay that kind of money for it, then it's safe to say they find the speed levels of Extreme SLOW, which in turm means they have to be downloading significant volumes of data. Because Grandma downloading photos of the grandkids isn't thinking "what I need is a $150 50mbit connection to make these emails really rip". | |
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sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
H0H 0H0 | Re: Rogers to offer 50 megabit service for $149.99 It's a really poor marketing move that's for sure. No way in **** that I'd pay $150 a month ... As it is, I'm having a hard time justifying Extreme any more! | |
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| | Sunfox
join:2003-12-14
Markham, ON | Re: Rogers to offer 50 megabit service for $149.99 Now a 50mbit connection with UNLIMITED data for $150... now THAT I might very well be talking into. | |
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Commodus
join:2002-08-28
Ottawa, ON
| Two things about possible pricing for the 50Mbps tier:
1. Currency values, folks. If Rogers were to exactly match CableVision, it'd be around $110 CDN a month; just a short while ago it would have been higher.
2. CableVision is something of an exception: with the exception of the just-launched Washington DC service, Comcast charges $140 US a month for 50Mbps. Even Verizon's FiOS service is $140 a month.
Also, it's virtually certain that any DOCSIS 3 tier would have higher caps; the real question is whether they'll be reasonable (120GB would still be a joke). I'd prefer Rogers takes the caps off, but if not that then I'd hope for at least something more like Comcast (plus Rogers' overage fee ceiling).
My question: will I have the option of replacing my existing service with faster DOCSIS 3 service? I wouldn't be surprised if there were upgrades to 20Mbps for Extreme customers... preferably with a higher cap there, too. | |
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Some1atRogers
@rogers.com
| Take it from me, it's DOCSIS 3
Word around the office is that it's going to be 50/2. Haven't heard any other numbers thrown around, but take that with a grain of salt. I have no idea what the cap will be like though. | |
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Hello_123
@rogers.com
| A couple things... if they offer 50 MB service, it's DOCSIS 3.0, I'm 100% sure of that.
Second, stop comparing US to CDN pricing... Not the same market size... Comcast has 10x the customers, with the same distance to cover infrastructure builds... economies of scale.. sorry, but that's just Canada... We pay more for gas, cars, consumables, and even taxes.... we buy the from the same suppliers, so it's the same costing... why is this new to anyone??
Rogers haven't even talk about cap limit yet, and ppl are already complaining... Just don't buy the service! Stick with the Extreme or Express...I don't think I'd get it no matter what the cost, speed isn't the issue to me. | |
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static416
join:2007-01-26
Toronto, ON
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| By the way, just heard from my marketing friend who is working for Rogers on this project.
It is 50 down, 1 up, and coming out in August. The rest is so far unconfirmed.
No info on the restrictions or caps, but unless Rogers suddenly decided to reverse their wicked ways, I'm certain they will exist and be sufficiently stifling to make most people question the worth of this plan. Rogers seems to have perfected the ability to make their services just bad enough to make me not want to buy them. | |
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mlerner
Premium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON | Re: Rogers to offer 50 megabit service for $149.99 If there is caps it's a total rip off. | |
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| | static416
join:2007-01-26
Toronto, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
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| Re: Rogers to offer 50 megabit service for $149.99 said by mlerner :If there is caps it's a total rip off. Agreed, just about any caps could easily be overrun in short order. P2P throttling would make this pointless. What am I going to do? Check my email at 50mbit?
However, I don't see why they wouldn't implement them. They already have set the precedent with their other services, and this could be a prime candidate to completely cannibalize their TV offerings if it's not controlled.
The only possible thing I can think of is that at $150 a month, they could market this as an elite, unlimited, super-fast service. And it's not a huge deal if it cannibalizes TV service at that price, because it's more than cable and cheaper to offer provide. But that's just speculation, I know nothing of the cable business. | |
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joshb
Don't sweat the small stuff.
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| Re: Rogers to offer 50 megabit service for $149.99 said by static416 :said by mlerner :If there is caps it's a total rip off. Agreed, just about any caps could easily be overrun in short order. P2P throttling would make this pointless. What am I going to do? Check my email at 50mbit? However, I don't see why they wouldn't implement them. They already have set the precedent with their other services, and this could be a prime candidate to completely cannibalize their TV offerings if it's not controlled. The only possible thing I can think of is that at $150 a month, they could market this as an elite, unlimited, super-fast service. And it's not a huge deal if it cannibalizes TV service at that price, because it's more than cable and cheaper to offer provide. But that's just speculation, I know nothing of the cable business. And you just stated and gave them a reason as to exactly why they will put some sort of cap on this service... And it's most likely going to be stupidly low. The simple fact is TV service makes more money than internet service does. So Rogers and all cable companies basically want to avoid exactly the scenario you just painted... Internet service cannibalizing there TV service.
The fact is the cable companies and many other corporations want to have there cake and eat it too. And this just does not happen in the real world.
Regards,
Joshb
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travisc
join:2001-11-09
Port Perry, ON | Re: Rogers to offer 50 megabit service for $149.99 What makes you think TV service is more profitable than Internet service? | |
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shadowwarrior
@teksavvy.com | I won't spend $149.99 for internet. It wouldn't matter if they had no caps. I just don't need that kind of speed. Half that speed for around $80 would be better. | |
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slaman
join:2007-02-22
Toronto, ON | Wow 1mbit up?
What a joke. | |
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