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 ropeguruPremium
join:2001-01-25
Mechanicsville, VA
1 edit | reply to Chris 313
Re: Why? said by Chris 313:Why would I wanna buy equipment (Modems excluded, Moto 5100 still going 5 1/2 years later) from Comcast. Back when they were still running under Time Warner Cable, I went through like 5 SA8300 DVR boxes. They kept dying, poor picture quality, losing recordings despite settings. The Moto 6412 DVR box I have now works, but I'm starting to have recordings problems with this box. I'm probably gonna trade it in soon and see if that solves my problem. I wouldn't wanna buy a box like this, especially if I continue to have problems time and time again in the same spots. But that's the thing. Right now you are tied to the crappy stuff put out by Comcast. They contract with a certain company to make their boxes and that is the only choice.
Quit charging rental fees or open up the system for the end user to purchase their own equipment. When the system is opened up there will be more demand, more manufacturers will get into the game and produce better equipment, more features, and an overall better (hardware) experience. | |
fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | The "system" is already open... there is no demand.
But, I'll assume that you're wanting a box that is capable of OnDemand, right?? .. that's that service that people, more so, say that is worthless.. right?
But, since you get your first box free with your package, you're really talking about the second box for most people anyway.
And, let me correct you.. "Comcast" and other cable companies (people need to stop attacking comcast directly as it's the industry in whole that operates the same way in this country) do not "put out crappy stuff"... last time I checked, Motorola and Scientific Atlanta are the ones that "put out the crappy stuff".. | |
ropeguruPremium
join:2001-01-25
Mechanicsville, VA | said by fiberguy:The "system" is already open... there is no demand. But, I'll assume that you're wanting a box that is capable of OnDemand, right?? .. that's that service that people, more so, say that is worthless.. right? But, since you get your first box free with your package, you're really talking about the second box for most people anyway. And, let me correct you.. "Comcast" and other cable companies (people need to stop attacking comcast directly as it's the industry in whole that operates the same way in this country) do not "put out crappy stuff"... last time I checked, Motorola and Scientific Atlanta are the ones that "put out the crappy stuff".. So, you are saying I can go to Motorola or SA and buy a box directly from them and Comcast will accept it and allow me to do so. Forget pricing for right now.
I wasn't meaning to harp on Comcast directly, as it is all cable companies that do this. They just happen to be the subject of the article posted. You are right, it is Motorala and SA that are putting out the "crappy" stuff. However, there is no market for anyone else to really put any effort into building boxes as these companies are the ones "chosen" by the cable companies and the end user cannot buy their own.
If the customer was allowed to BYOD then there would be other companies out there developing their own boxes to sell and more pressure would be put on Motorola and SA to fix theirs. | |
beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH | Comcast is not preventing you from purchsing a box from MOto or SA. Additionally, you can buy a Tivo or a cable card PC/TV if you don't want to rent their box. I don't see what the problem is.
If there were real demand for Tru2Way stuff you'd see it in the marketplace. | | |
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | reply to ropeguru
You can BYOD right now.. Tivo and DCTV Ready sets via cable card.
As for them sticking with Motorola and S/A, well, that's a technology issue as you can' only have one manufacture standard per system at this time when it comes to interactive services. Comcast, Cox, TWC, et all, none of them can simply say "well, we use Moto, but we'll go ahead and let you use S/A too.. " ... not on the interactive side (2way) of the system.. to do so, with current technology, is simply not going to happen. So, if you live in a moto system, you get crappy moto boxes. If you live in an S/A system, you get crappy S/A boxes.
Until the other platforms are up and running (Tru2Way) and systems are retrofitted with the equipment to handle them, this is the way it is for now.. and the companies are compliant with the law.
There are some mis-understandings for some people. These laws that the average person is trying to break down, are not being done so correctly. Some people still believe that every HD box must have a firewire port on them. In fact, the rules say that the system/operator has to HAVE them available.. So long as one model has the option, they are compliant. As for allowing customers to buy their own boxes, that's already available. At this time, the OnDemand service is about the only thing you can't get "as a service" from the company on a customer owned box... and I don't believe the law states that you have to make that available as written. Further, I also don't believe the law, as written, or any other cases being cited in this forum, say that the company has to make available, for purchase, any of the exact equipment with the same features as they offer their own customers. They don't have to sell cable modems.. those are available by retailers.. I see this as the same thing as Tivo and DCTV ready sets and cable cards. And with the cards, I believe you get the first one free.. again, nothing says they have to make available, for free, something for every set you own. They cover you on the first/primary outlet, and that meets requirements.
So as it stands, customers are allowed to BYOD, as you say. | |
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