 ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
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| I don't agree about the upgrades.... People forget that there is a contract piece to getting the subsidized phones. I wanted a 3G and was not eligible so I paid full price. It is what you do when you want something out of contract. AT&T/Apple set a bad precedence the first time around, but a contract is a contract.
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Palm Coast, FL | said by ptrowski:People forget that there is a contract piece to getting the subsidized phones. I wanted a 3G and was not eligible so I paid full price. It is what you do when you want something out of contract. AT&T/Apple set a bad precedence the first time around, but a contract is a contract. Sometimes it costs more money to be on the bleeding edge. If you really need the toy NOW, you have to pay to play. I agree. They did set a precedence the first time but remember that customers paid much more for the original iPhone. It was not subsidized as the 3G and 3G S. I paid $599 for my first iPhone and while I extended my contract two years when I activated it I did not pay the subsidized price.
AT&T is going to need to take a serious look at their network if they plan on keeping the iPhone exclusive. |
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said by ptrowski:People forget that there is a contract piece to getting the subsidized phones. I wanted a 3G and was not eligible so I paid full price. It is what you do when you want something out of contract. AT&T/Apple set a bad precedence the first time around, but a contract is a contract. Sometimes it costs more money to be on the bleeding edge. If you really need the toy NOW, you have to pay to play. Maybe AT&T should do 1 year contracts on iPhones instead of 2 years.
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| said by Rob:said by ptrowski:People forget that there is a contract piece to getting the subsidized phones. I wanted a 3G and was not eligible so I paid full price. It is what you do when you want something out of contract. AT&T/Apple set a bad precedence the first time around, but a contract is a contract. Sometimes it costs more money to be on the bleeding edge. If you really need the toy NOW, you have to pay to play. Maybe AT&T should do 1 year contracts on iPhones instead of 2 years. Why though? I don't see any reason as to why they should make any exceptions at all. A phone is a phone no matter who makes it.
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RobIn Deo speramus, God Bless the USAPremium
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kudos:2 | said by ptrowski:said by Rob:said by ptrowski:People forget that there is a contract piece to getting the subsidized phones. I wanted a 3G and was not eligible so I paid full price. It is what you do when you want something out of contract. AT&T/Apple set a bad precedence the first time around, but a contract is a contract. Sometimes it costs more money to be on the bleeding edge. If you really need the toy NOW, you have to pay to play. Maybe AT&T should do 1 year contracts on iPhones instead of 2 years. Why though? I don't see any reason as to why they should make any exceptions at all. A phone is a phone no matter who makes it. Because the iPhone has given AT&T a huge boost in customer base and if they want to keep riding this wave, they better make better accommodations, or come 2010, Apple will take their phone to another carrier - and so will the millions of iPhone users.
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| said by Rob:Because the iPhone has given AT&T a huge boost in customer base and if they want to keep riding this wave, they better make better accommodations, or come 2010, Apple will take their phone to another carrier - and so will the millions of iPhone users. They very well might, but to me it would be a bad business practice to the rest of their customers that don't use an iPhone. I could see that creating a big problem with them.
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kudos:2 | said by ptrowski:said by Rob:Because the iPhone has given AT&T a huge boost in customer base and if they want to keep riding this wave, they better make better accommodations, or come 2010, Apple will take their phone to another carrier - and so will the millions of iPhone users. They very well might, but to me it would be a bad business practice to the rest of their customers that don't use an iPhone. I could see that creating a big problem with them. Problems never seem to have stopped AT&T before 
On a serious note, it could turn out to be better for everyone. The iPhone is already forcing AT&T to upgrade their network, and even bring their data price down (rumored). Other changes could impact other phone users, in a positive way.
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 tubbynetreminds me of the danse russePremium,MVM
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said by Rob:Because the iPhone has given AT&T a huge boost in customer base and if they want to keep riding this wave, they better make better accommodations, or come 2010, Apple will take their phone to another carrier - and so will the millions of iPhone users. exactly. att is trying *everything* to keep customers happy with the iphone (short of giving everyone who has an iphone a free "rub and tug"). however, what they've done is cater to the whiniest people who feel that they should have anything they want when they want it, contract be damned.
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I bet you AT&T tries to add another two years to your contract if you pay at full price (not getting any subsidized, reduced price).
Noone seems to be asking this question. If I pay the full price because I don't qualify for the reduced price will they extend my contract?
I bet so. They tried to do that when I returned a phone for warranty work. AT&T are the scumbags of the earth.
But then again, Apple isn't much better.
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I have to agree with this. If you under contract you need to wait. Eligible customers should be able to get the discount. Otherwise you pay full retail price for the device. It does not matter if one thinks its too expensive, its a brand new PDA device by Apple....think about that for a second....APPLE......PDA....those two combined would = very expensive. |
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said by kfsutops:I bet you AT&T tries to add another two years to your contract if you pay at full price (not getting any subsidized, reduced price). Noone seems to be asking this question. If I pay the full price because I don't qualify for the reduced price will they extend my contract? I bet so. They tried to do that when I returned a phone for warranty work. AT&T are the scumbags of the earth. But then again, Apple isn't much better. They did when I bought the 3G. I asked them about how that could be, and they said that it was the way it was done with the iPhone.but have since changed it. I told them I should then receive a credit since I did not get the susidized price but my contract was extended. We are still going round and round.
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Wow. And I suppose in your opinion we should assuage the aches and pains of a giant, ultra-wealthy corporation the likes of which we haven't seen since Ma Bell, is that right?
What you call "whiny", I call power users constantly riding the wave of new technology, subsidizing it with the exorbitant fees they pay for the inevitable masses of followers. |
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People forget that there is a contract piece to getting the subsidized phones Yep. I think people got confused because original iPhone owners got to upgrade to the 3G without having to pay the higher price.
They paid $399+ for that original iPhone. The subsidy was already "paid off". The whole point behind the new lower pricing is that you'd pay it off over the course of 2 years. If you didn't keep it that long, well, of course they need to charge you the "ineligible for upgrade" price. Seems pretty logical to me.
Noone seems to be asking this question. If I pay the full price because I don't qualify for the reduced price will they extend my contract? If you're not eligible for the reduced pricing, it means you're still in the process of paying off your previous phone. So, figure the extra money you're paying is going to pay off previous phone, and now you're getting a new subsidy on your new phone. So they should extend your contract again.
There's another price point ($599) for a completely contract free phone. You'd need to buy that to not extend your contract.
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yeah. Stoopid elitist whiny pigs...
*drools over new MacBook Pro*
Anyway, not going with AT&T on the iphone, still. They're EDGE-only here and though their network is faster than anyone else's it's still only 70-100 kbps. On the CDMA side we've got 3G from Sprint and VZW... |
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AT&T will allow you to get the iPhone unsubsidized, no contract extension. it's just $400 more than a contract purchase. Likewise if you're halfway through your contract and are willing to sign another 2-year agreement they'll give you a $200 discount over retail.
Personally, since nobody else in the US has 3G on 850/1900 via GSM, my first-gen iPhone is just fine if I don't want to use AT&T. |
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Chandler, AZ | reply to sonicmerlin
said by sonicmerlin:What you call "whiny", I call power users constantly riding the wave of new technology, subsidizing it with the exorbitant fees they pay for the inevitable masses of followers. but they signed a c-o-n-t-r-a-c-t. that c-o-n-t-r-a-c-t stipulates that the user has a window to upgrade their phone for a discounted fee. i call the i-tards in question whiny, because they are saying that "even though we signed a contract, we should still be able to upgrade early". no other carrier, no other phone even, offers this deal. why should the iphone be made an exception other than att giving a reacharound to anyone and everyone to try and protect exclusivity while keeping the apple fanboi-fanbase happy.
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| I don't have a problem with concept of being under contract and all that jazz..I don't like it, but I can't complain.
I just want to know if I pay the higher price will my contract still get extended? This what AT&T has done in the past.
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Chandler, AZ | Re: I don't agree about the upgrades....� said by kfsutops:I don't have a problem with concept of being under contract and all that jazz..I don't like it, but I can't complain. I just want to know if I pay the higher price will my contract still get extended? This what AT&T has done in the past. if they do, then att does have issues. normally, you should be able to purchase a phone outright and just flip phones. you have not agreed to take a subsidized phone (which is why the contract is there in the first place). honestly, if att did that, i would tell them to shove it.
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