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reply to espaeth

Re: BT comments Redux

said by espaeth:

It's not just about P2P, it's not just about video. It's about ANY technology that causes a drastic shift in the oversubscription model on which networks are built.
Well that's not very new, either. I think ISPs picked up on the fact that users were pretty keen about surfing, but they also knew a large number of users were also keen on putting up their own websites and photos. ISPs responded to that by providing well-hosted sites and kept that heavier and repetitive upstream traffic off of the last mile. It was a tactic and it worked ... for a while.

The uplink demand was there, and the ISPs mitigated it. But their decision depended on the Internet users' uplink tastes not changing.

But I'll disagree even further up the argument and reaffirm that it is about video. If you removed video from the net, there's plenty of room for everything else -- down AND up. I may gripe that the ISPs haven't grown fast enough, but they've grown.

said by espaeth:

said by funchords:

How did we get out of each one? We grew the network's capacity. Nothing else truly works -- it all amounts to denying or delaying service in one way or another. To meet increased demand, increase supply.
To solve your debt problem, acquire more money. If only it were always that simple.

You can only grow your network once the necessary interfaces become available, and occasionally you have to push through large capital expenditures when a full refresh is required to improve capacity.
Which is also not at all new. All of those truths of today were truths during those crises as well.

And we did try different other things to defer the time and expense. We put up proxies and caches. We crunched images. Ultimately, though, we grew the network and turned off those compromises.
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