Topic 'Re: [COX] Question on DTV changeover for analog VCR recording' in forum 'Cable & Satellite TV' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22513141 en Sat, 11 Feb 2012 12:08:32 EDT Sat, 11 Feb 2012 12:08:32 EDT Re: [COX] Question on DTV changeover for analog VCR recording http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22636046 said by Hayward:

said by BF69:

Clear QAM won't do a thing for VCRs and such that only take analog signals. Or SDTVs or even HDTVs that don't have QAM tuners built in and many don't.
Only if they are more than two years old. My original HDTV was NTSC only for tuner, but since have had ATSC/QUAM.... actually a predicessor to the OTA digital (orig date) changeover, no TV for a year or more before that could be sold with only a NTSC tuner, if over 13".
The OP was tallking about VCRs. All TVs have been required since March 2007 to have ATSC tuners. There is no requirement for QAM tuners. And VCRs certainly don't have to have them]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22636046 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:15:38 EDT Re: [COX] Question on DTV changeover for analog VCR recording http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22632518 said by BF69:

Clear QAM won't do a thing for VCRs and such that only take analog signals. Or SDTVs or even HDTVs that don't have QAM tuners built in and many don't.
Only if they are more than two years old. My original HDTV was NTSC only for tuner, but since have had ATSC/QUAM.... actually a predicessor to the OTA digital (orig date) changeover, no TV for a year or more before that could be sold with only a NTSC tuner, if over 13".
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22632518 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:57:31 EDT Re: [COX] Question on DTV changeover for analog VCR recording http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22621051 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22621051 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:22:55 EDT Re: [COX] Question on DTV changeover for analog VCR recording http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22581197
Thank you for that information, Snowcat. I've started Googling IR blaster and it looks simple, but I'll have to read a while to understand. Most hits seem to be for computers, but I found a couple others for TV, and thankfully have plenty of time.

Beats the other option I'd seen using several special converter boxes and splitter, etc.

Have not had set top box in quite a few years, but like ability to remove tape and watch somewhere else, even at work.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22581197 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:00:00 EDT Re: [COX] Question on DTV changeover for analog VCR recording http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22578575 said by minnetonka:

It is hard for me to accept throwing out 4 perfectly good tv sets and five VCRs. There is no reason to do that. You just will have to get cable boxes for each tv if Cox goes all digital. Plug the cable to the cable box, the cable box to your VCR, the VCR to your TV, and you are good to go. You just will need some sort of IR blaster between your VCR and cable box if you want the VCR to control the channel switching.

VCR and cable boxes have been around for years and years. It just sound like you haven't had cable boxes before.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22578575 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:11:23 EDT Re: [COX] Question on DTV changeover for analog VCR recording http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22551499
It is hard for me to accept throwing out 4 perfectly good tv sets and five VCRs. Not a problem when something kicks the dust, but when the first DVD/VCR player I bought for about $100 died in just over a year of seldom use, I have to spend a lot of time researching before replacing high-end Sony VCRs that just keep going.

Happy I have a lot of time to "get with it," and thanks again. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22551499 Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:14:08 EDT Re: [COX] Question on DTV changeover for analog VCR recording http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22544730 said by Joe12345678:

a lot of cables systems have most of the OTA line up in clear qam.
Clear QAM won't do a thing for VCRs and such that only take analog signals. Or SDTVs or even HDTVs that don't have QAM tuners built in and many don't.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22544730 Sat, 13 Jun 2009 07:18:30 EDT Re: [COX] Question on DTV changeover for analog VCR recording http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22543866
Though still have the analog tier with locals to.... for how long who knows...seems like a rediculous waste of spectrum for a few diehard holdouts, even my secondary set is now digital.
Suck it up people, DTV, converter, or STB. It will be that way sooner or later like it or not... and likely sooner.

And if only to end the easy just hook up to neighbor THEFT factor of analog cable, let alone freeing up a huge amoungt of channel space several digital/HD's will fit in EACH analog slot..
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22543866 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 23:30:47 EDT Re: [COX] Question on DTV changeover for analog VCR recording http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22543695 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22543695 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:45:31 EDT Re: [COX] Question on DTV changeover for analog VCR recording http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22543232 said by fw2008:

What you may find out is that some of the stations you still receive as analog after June 12 will disappear one day, and you will then have to get a STB to receive them, because they have been switched to digital.

I don't know about a 3 year promise to keep analog. Did they tell you that all of the stations you now receive as analog will remain analog for 3 years, or did they just say that you will still receive some analog stations for 3 years?

I have Cablevision, and while they are still carrying many analog signals, I have been losing these analog stations a few at a time, as they go digital.

I would recommend reading the cable provider's promise very carefully.
In any case though, you do not need to change anything now, as long as you are still receiving your stations.

FW
Legally if a cable company has an anlog tier they HAVE to provide locals in analog until 2012. In other words they can't move your locals to digital to get you to upgrade if they still have other channels on analog. Now if they are going to get rid of analog completely then yes they can move locals to digital or after 2012 they can move locals to digital regardless. I suspect the major cable companies( Comcast, TW, Cablevison, Charter, Cox ) will all be all digital by the end of 2012 anyways.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22543232 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:02:45 EDT Re: [COX] Question on DTV changeover for analog VCR recording http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22543165
no mention of which channels, but most likely the basic tier.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22543165 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:48:19 EDT Re: [COX] Question on DTV changeover for analog VCR recording http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22542215
I don't know about a 3 year promise to keep analog. Did they tell you that all of the stations you now receive as analog will remain analog for 3 years, or did they just say that you will still receive some analog stations for 3 years?

I have Cablevision, and while they are still carrying many analog signals, I have been losing these analog stations a few at a time, as they go digital.

I would recommend reading the cable provider's promise very carefully.
In any case though, you do not need to change anything now, as long as you are still receiving your stations.

FW]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22542215 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:31:23 EDT Re: [COX] Question on DTV changeover for analog VCR recording http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22540668 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22540668 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:25:06 EDT Re: [COX] Question on DTV changeover for analog VCR recording http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22518235 said by minnetonka:

I'm thinking that doesn't apply for us (at least for three years), but have had conflicting information about using my analog VCRs. Some forums say even with cable, I will have to have several converters and splitters (to record one channel and watch another) or at the very least a converter to record. As long as your local Cable provider has an analog tier you do not have to do anything. Cableco with either convert Digital feed to analog or will get a special analog feed from station.

Once Cableco does away with analog tier then you will need a Set-top-box or QAM compatible receiver to watch unencrypted digital programs.

/tom]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22518235 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:20:21 EDT Re: [COX] Question on DTV changeover for analog VCR recording http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22513634 said by minnetonka:

Some forums say even with cable, I will have to have several converters and splitters (to record one channel and watch another) or at the very least a converter to record. they are stupid.

Ok first the OTA conversion to digital has NOTHING to do with cable.

Second the converter boxes used to convert OTA digital to analog doesn't work with cable. Cable uses QAM signals for digital.

If your cable company has an analog tier, and most still do, then why would you need to do anaything? The signals are coming to your TV in analog format. They are analog before they get to your house let alone your TV.

Until your cable company goes all digital( which would require you to have a STB ) then I wouldn't even begin to worry about anything.

So your answer to what's going to happen to your VCR come June 12th? NOTHING. It will work like it always has.

To be honest I'm not sure why this OTA digital transition is so confusing to people. One of the main reasons I can't wait until June 12th gets here. When it does peoples' fears will be alleviated and people giving out misinformation will be proven wrong and everything can go back to normal.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22513634 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 01:35:46 EDT Re: [COX] Question on DTV changeover for analog VCR recording http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22513343
However as soon as you need a cable box to receive signals you're going to need to change things around.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22513343 Sun, 07 Jun 2009 23:54:50 EDT [COX] Question on DTV changeover for analog VCR recording http://www.dslreports.com/forum/COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22513141
My understanding is that, "...Cox has committed to converting the digital signals to analog so that any TV hooked to cable can receive the broadcast stations for at least three years after the deadline," but we keep getting literature from Cox with special pricing for subscribing to digital tv.

I'm thinking that doesn't apply for us (at least for three years), but have had conflicting information about using my analog VCRs. Some forums say even with cable, I will have to have several converters and splitters (to record one channel and watch another) or at the very least a converter to record.

A guy a work who is really experienced with electronics says that can't possibly be true; i.e., if digital is converted to analog for your current tv, then the same applies for your VCR.

I guess I can wait until June 12th, but would rather be prepared since I tape several programs every day or late at night. I'll be really upset if I can't tape Deadliest Catch, for one . . .

Can anyone shed a little more light on all this for me? Thanks]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/COX-Question-on-DTV-changeover-for-analog-VCR-recording-22513141 Sun, 07 Jun 2009 23:02:20 EDT