hambonepat
join:2003-05-06
Chicago, IL | reply to lev
Re: Anyone able to pick up WBBM-2.1 now?
Pick one or all. |
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lev
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join:2001-05-30
Chicago, IL
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The people in charge? Of CBS/WBBM, the FCC, or some place else? |
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hambonepat
join:2003-05-06
Chicago, IL
 ·AT&T Midwest
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I never got 2 before the switch over and still don't on my kitchen TV with and an indoor antenna. I am on the far NWside of the city. The digital pic on the rest of channels is good sometimes but at other times the signal power and reception sucks. I really dont feel like investing in a big $ indoor antenna for the chance that reception will get better. I am not impressed at all with this digital conversion but realize that the people in charge don't give a damn. |
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Bink63
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Well, WLS couldn't stay on RF 52, since that part of the spectrum has been auctioned off...
my best guess is that the Mickey Mouse bean counters didn't want to have to shell out for a third antenna for yet another channel move. That, and there's been a trend amongst ABC O & Os of returning to their original channels, post-transition.
WBBM cheaped out, period...
they took over WTTW's old channel 11 antenna and tweaked it for channel 12 and not much else!
The above is purely educated speculation on my part, nothing should be construed as being an attack on any company or organization.
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lev
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Chicago, IL
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AGAIN, I ask... WHY did they choose to be on the VHF bandwidth? WLS (which I haven't a problem with strengthwise even now) was on UHF. WBBM stuck with VHF, even if they went far higher in the bandwidth for what reason, good or bad? |
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snipper_cr
join:2002-01-22
Wheaton, IL
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I read yesterday in the daily herald that WBBMDT and WLSDT (guess DT is redundant now) were having problems and not able to broadcast at full power so people further out from the city would not get full signal, or even the 80% cliff needed. They said they were working with the FCC to get it working soon. We'll see.
I've been using my QAM tuner for a while but now I am back in the burbs for the summer, I want to hook back up to my antenna for OTA since I think it is better quality.
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lev
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So I finally had time to do that recscan. I had blocky picture, which was an improvement. Then I went to the meter.
Tuner 1 of my DIRECTV HR10-250 was showing a signal between 88 and 90 for WBBM! Tuner 2 was running between 0 and 50. Both an improvement.
Then I signed on here, and tuner 1's signal went dead. Tuner 2 stayed the same. Tuner 1 still works great on WLS, and all the Sears-based UHF channels.
Are there any actual talented engineers working for WBBM? |
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Suchaknight
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join:2002-10-06
Houbytown
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I'm in the near west burbs and gettihg 2.1 fairly well about ninety percent of the time. I do get some pixelation though. I can't get ch 11 very well at all. I'm on an indoor antenna, so that might be my problem. I haven't had time to work on it yet.
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VegasMan
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join:2002-11-17
Schaumburg, IL
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said by lev  :said by Bink63 :Everyone with Post-transition reception issues needs to call the FCC... 1-888-CALL-FCC (1-888-225-5322). After looking it up, he told me that they're changing something in the transmitter, and I should try to rescan again after 7:15 tonight. So I will, and expect little to nothing.  I bet they are just pulling times out of their ass.
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Bink63
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Well something to do during the rain delay anyway!
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CUBS_FAN
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join:2005-04-28
Chicago, IL | reply to CUBS_FAN
After moving one of the "rabbit ears" a little I'm now able to pick up channel 2 on both T.V's. We'll see how the signal strength will be after the supposive 7:15pm change of something in the transmitter. |
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lev
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said by Bink63 :Everyone with Post-transition reception issues needs to call the FCC... 1-888-CALL-FCC (1-888-225-5322). For grins today, I called, since the engineers that were supposed to call back from WBBM didn't call.
I spoke to a guy in Pennsylvania who sounded just about smart enough to tie his shoes, and he was bumming that everyone there was getting laid-off because nobody was calling.
After looking it up, he told me that they're changing something in the transmitter, and I should try to rescan again after 7:15 tonight.
So I will, and expect little to nothing. |
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jtl
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join:2002-02-14
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I'm in Arlington Heights, 60005.
All Chicago DTV channels come in fine pre- and post-conversion with my rooftop Winegard antenna (I forgot the model number, but I bought it in mid-2007).
I also have an older VHF/UHF antenna in the attic that was left by the previous owners of my home. It's connected to a TV in the bedroom, with about 25 ft of coax from the antenna to the receiver. All DTV except WBBM came in fine pre-conversion; WBBM didn't even register on the converter's signal strength meter.
Post-conversion (and post-rescan), WBBM registers on the meter and comes in, but very choppy. It's almost watchable, but still nowhere near the quality of the other stations.
I'm going to climb into the attic and move the antenna around to see if it makes a difference.
The DTV converter boxes are an Insignia and an Apex. The problem is consistent when I switch the boxes on the TVs-- the attic antenna can't get WBBM clearly. |
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CUBS_FAN
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join:2005-04-28
Chicago, IL
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 ·Vonage
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said by lev :They're hooked up to the same antenna? No, 2 separate antenna's of the same brand. |
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lev
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They're hooked up to the same antenna? |
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CUBS_FAN
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join:2005-04-28
Chicago, IL
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said by Jan Janowski :Signal strength on new 7-1 and 2-1 both are higher on new channels than they were on older channels here (Skokie) I noticed that too on my T.V in the bedroom on ground level but the T.V down in the basement which had no problems picking up 2.1 can no longer get it after the transition. Its strange that it seems to be a stronger signal according to the strength meter on the aforementioned T.V |
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nwrickert
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Geneva, IL
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I have lost both channel 2.1 and 7.1. And yes, I did rescan.
This is Geneva, around 38 miles west of the loop. I am using an attic antenna - both a VHF and a separate UHF antenna.
When WBBM was on channel 3, the reception was usually good except during a severe lightning storm. Now there is nothing. I can get set the receiver to manually check the signal strength on channel 12, but it is getting nothing. Channel 7 has a similar problem. Most of the other channels are fine.
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Bink63
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Everyone with Post-transition reception issues needs to call the FCC...
1-888-CALL-FCC (1-888-225-5322).
And also, those of us that are having issues specifically with WLS need to call them as well at the WLS reception problem hotline...
1-312-750-7052
Regards,
Randy
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lev
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said by VegasMan :You're closer to downtown than I am aren't you? I get BBM fine with a 78 on my sat receiver. Now if I could just get something that looked decent from WLS 60-64 and all macroblocking. Yep, I'm closer, but on a different line. My WLS/WBBM results are the exact opposite of yours, except my WBBM is far worse than your WLS. |
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Jan Janowski
join:2000-06-18
Skokie, IL
·AT&T Midwest
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Signal strength on new 7-1 and 2-1 both are higher on new channels than they were on older channels here (Skokie)
Checked on 2 different version receivers... V2 and V4 (I think converters are V4 tuners).... Both agree.
On a DTVPal converter box 2-1 went from high 80's on CH3 -- to low 90's on CH12.
7-1 went from high 80's on CH52 to high 90's on CH7.
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