stevech0
join:2006-09-17
San Diego, CA | reply to fonzbear2000
Re: Final update
D-Link hasn't discovered the concept of quality assurance and supplier qualification. |
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fonzbear2000
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Saint Paul, MN
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said by tipstir  :said by fonzbear2000 :Almost 20 days with NO connection drops! You won't have any.. Unless our loose power from the power grid. Other than that you'll be good to go.. I had to move mine out of the network closet (mounted high above the door) drilled 3/8 hole to feed the wires back into closet once I did that connections 150/300 and strong/excellent! Hmmmmm, I wonder why I had them all the time with my previous router, a D-Link DI-524
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tipstir
join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
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said by fonzbear2000 :Almost 20 days with NO connection drops! You won't have any.. Unless our loose power from the power grid. Other than that you'll be good to go.. I had to move mine out of the network closet (mounted high above the door) drilled 3/8 hole to feed the wires back into closet once I did that connections 150/300 and strong/excellent! |
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fonzbear2000
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Saint Paul, MN |  reply to fonzbear2000
Almost 20 days with NO connection drops! |
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tipstir
join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI
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Re: Update...
said by stevech0 :Ethernet does have power going though the cables as you see your link light from the switch to the the back of your NIC (network interface card).
The link light LED is powered by sources on the NIC. The current flowing on common cat5 ethernet is minuscule. With "power over ethernet (PoE)" there is a small amount of current flowing, but still tiny compared to appliances and even wall transformers for electronics. True but I can put my toner on the line and it will give off a tone. If not contact going through the cable say it was broken or cut then such toner won't be able. Yes POE is different as that does have it's own power but then you need POE switch to use it with. |
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stevech0
join:2006-09-17
San Diego, CA
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Ethernet does have power going though the cables as you see your link light from the switch to the the back of your NIC (network interface card).
The link light LED is powered by sources on the NIC. The current flowing on common cat5 ethernet is minuscule. With "power over ethernet (PoE)" there is a small amount of current flowing, but still tiny compared to appliances and even wall transformers for electronics. |
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fonzbear2000
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Saint Paul, MN
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said by tipstir :said by fonzbear2000 :said by stevech0 :It is true that a wire carrying mains/AC power to a high current appliance/device, may create 50/60Hz inductive fields near the cable. (Think electromagnet). Not a good idea to run any signal wires many feet parallel to and an inch or so from high current AC wires. But low current, probably OK. Ethernet on cat5 is differential so it will reject all but very unusually strong "common mode" interference from adjacent wires. Same, for big AC motors/transformers. Thanks. Well, I've been running all the cables near and touching each other for years with NO problems so I'm not too worried.  Well if you want the best performance you might want to consider applying these methods. It's really up to you though to do it. I just use the Velcro because it's easier to change wires then to cut the wire plastic ties up. Ethernet does have power going though the cables as you see your link light from the switch to the the back of your NIC (network interface card). Thanks, but all is good here so I'll just leave it be.
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tipstir
join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
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said by fonzbear2000 :said by stevech0 :It is true that a wire carrying mains/AC power to a high current appliance/device, may create 50/60Hz inductive fields near the cable. (Think electromagnet). Not a good idea to run any signal wires many feet parallel to and an inch or so from high current AC wires. But low current, probably OK. Ethernet on cat5 is differential so it will reject all but very unusually strong "common mode" interference from adjacent wires. Same, for big AC motors/transformers. Thanks. Well, I've been running all the cables near and touching each other for years with NO problems so I'm not too worried. Well if you want the best performance you might want to consider applying these methods. It's really up to you though to do it. I just use the Velcro because it's easier to change wires then to cut the wire plastic ties up.
Ethernet does have power going though the cables as you see your link light from the switch to the the back of your NIC (network interface card).
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fonzbear2000
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Saint Paul, MN
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said by stevech0 :It is true that a wire carrying mains/AC power to a high current appliance/device, may create 50/60Hz inductive fields near the cable. (Think electromagnet). Not a good idea to run any signal wires many feet parallel to and an inch or so from high current AC wires. But low current, probably OK. Ethernet on cat5 is differential so it will reject all but very unusually strong "common mode" interference from adjacent wires. Same, for big AC motors/transformers. Thanks. Well, I've been running all the cables near and touching each other for years with NO problems so I'm not too worried.
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stevech0
join:2006-09-17
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It is true that a wire carrying mains/AC power to a high current appliance/device, may create 50/60Hz inductive fields near the cable. (Think electromagnet).
Not a good idea to run any signal wires many feet parallel to and an inch or so from high current AC wires. But low current, probably OK.
Ethernet on cat5 is differential so it will reject all but very unusually strong "common mode" interference from adjacent wires.
Same, for big AC motors/transformers. |
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fonzbear2000
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Saint Paul, MN
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said by tipstir :live Ethernet cable should not touch live power cords Why not? The signal that travels through everything is on the INSIDE of the cables. I have live ethernet cable touching live power cords and it's not hurting anything.
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tipstir
join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
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Transmit power though the cables
coax cable
ethernet network cable
power cable you know already
live Ethernet cable should not touch live power cords
You can combine all Ethernet cables together
All power cords together
Coax cable should be no where needs these live cables above.
It's good wire management too. Don' t you tie wraps, use Velcro wraps get a couple roles. Wa-Mart in the knitting section have these cheaper and you get a lot of them for $5 bucks. I use them as shown here.
older setups
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fonzbear2000
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Saint Paul, MN
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said by tipstir :said by fonzbear2000 :All the devices are plugged into the same power strip and it's a cheaper one so it doesn't have EMI/EMF reducing. A couple questions: 1.I only see 120-130, nothing with 270-300. How do I see if I'm getting those numbers as well? 2. With LAN, coax, and power cables, the signal that travels through them is on the inside of the cable, correct? So, why would it matter if they're near each other? PLEASE answer BOTH my questions. Thanks. TX: RX: I don't have a mac so I have to go by what you report. TX: 150 RX: 300 If you get the 150/300 that's the best you'll get from the router for wireless N. That can vary too though. 120/270 or 120/180. Ah, I see. Can you answer this question too please?:
With LAN, coax, and power cables, the signal that travels through them is on the inside of the cable, correct? So, why would it matter if they're near each other?
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tipstir
join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
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said by fonzbear2000 :All the devices are plugged into the same power strip and it's a cheaper one so it doesn't have EMI/EMF reducing. A couple questions: 1.I only see 120-130, nothing with 270-300. How do I see if I'm getting those numbers as well? 2. With LAN, coax, and power cables, the signal that travels through them is on the inside of the cable, correct? So, why would it matter if they're near each other? PLEASE answer BOTH my questions. Thanks. TX: RX:
I don't have a mac so I have to go by what you report.
TX: 150 RX: 300
If you get the 150/300 that's the best you'll get from the router for wireless N. That can vary too though. 120/270 or 120/180. |
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fonzbear2000
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Saint Paul, MN
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said by tipstir :said by fonzbear2000 :said by tipstir :The NIC in your MAC is that draft-N? Speed for you is great but the quality of the link speed is what you have to watch out for! Mine right now I am on in the upper floor second one showing 150/300 and excellent. I was lousy prior in the week, now look out! LOL. I'm still wondering how to reduce EMI/EMF. And yes, the NICs in all 3 Macs are N. Do you plug-in all your devices into surge protectors or some sort of power strips? Some more expensive ones have EMI/EMF reducing.. All power cables are together. Any coax lines used with cable modem kept away from the rest. All LAN cables are together and if you have phone lines should be kept away. But the only issue you have is your not getting 150/300 so you are really getting 120/270 still not bad though. All the devices are plugged into the same power strip and it's a cheaper one so it doesn't have EMI/EMF reducing. A couple questions:
1.I only see 120-130, nothing with 270-300. How do I see if I'm getting those numbers as well?
2. With LAN, coax, and power cables, the signal that travels through them is on the inside of the cable, correct? So, why would it matter if they're near each other?
PLEASE answer BOTH my questions. Thanks.
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stevech0
join:2006-09-17
San Diego, CA | reply to tipstir
power line filters v.s. WiFi performance: Irrelevant |
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tipstir
join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
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said by fonzbear2000 :said by tipstir :The NIC in your MAC is that draft-N? Speed for you is great but the quality of the link speed is what you have to watch out for! Mine right now I am on in the upper floor second one showing 150/300 and excellent. I was lousy prior in the week, now look out! LOL. I'm still wondering how to reduce EMI/EMF. And yes, the NICs in all 3 Macs are N. Do you plug-in all your devices into surge protectors or some sort of power strips? Some more expensive ones have EMI/EMF reducing.. All power cables are together. Any coax lines used with cable modem kept away from the rest. All LAN cables are together and if you have phone lines should be kept away. But the only issue you have is your not getting 150/300 so you are really getting 120/270 still not bad though. |
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fonzbear2000
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said by tipstir :The NIC in your MAC is that draft-N? Speed for you is great but the quality of the link speed is what you have to watch out for! Mine right now I am on in the upper floor second one showing 150/300 and excellent. I was lousy prior in the week, now look out! LOL. I'm still wondering how to reduce EMI/EMF. And yes, the NICs in all 3 Macs are N.
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tipstir
join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
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said by fonzbear2000 :said by tipstir :said by fonzbear2000 :Hmmmmm, my transmit rate is only 130.  That's why I was wondering what you had setup? 130 Tx. I was getting 120 Tx. Now I get Tx 150/300. With the right settings in the router and placement of the router. Isolate all the LAN/WAN/Power cables so nothing is touching. Reduce the EMI/EMF. Router and my external switches and the modem are not near each other. Because of the way things are set up, everything has to be near each other and it's not really possible to isolate the LAN/WAN/power cables. How do I reduce the EMI/EMF? Also, that speed just affects how fast files transfer between shared computers correct? Speed tests and file download speeds are just fine. If it's just file transfer speeds between shared computers, that's not really a big deal. The NIC in your MAC is that draft-N? Speed for you is great but the quality of the link speed is what you have to watch out for! Mine right now I am on in the upper floor second one showing 150/300 and excellent. I was lousy prior in the week, now look out! |
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fonzbear2000
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join:2005-08-09
Saint Paul, MN
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said by tipstir :said by fonzbear2000 :Hmmmmm, my transmit rate is only 130. That's why I was wondering what you had setup? 130 Tx. I was getting 120 Tx. Now I get Tx 150/300. With the right settings in the router and placement of the router. Isolate all the LAN/WAN/Power cables so nothing is touching. Reduce the EMI/EMF. Router and my external switches and the modem are not near each other. Because of the way things are set up, everything has to be near each other and it's not really possible to isolate the LAN/WAN/power cables. How do I reduce the EMI/EMF? Also, that speed just affects how fast files transfer between shared computers correct? Speed tests and file download speeds are just fine. If it's just file transfer speeds between shared computers, that's not really a big deal.
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