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said by fonzbear2000 :said by tipstir :said by fonzbear2000 :Thanks for that explanation, but here's what I'm wondering and if you have an opinion IN YOUR OWN WORDS, I would like to hear it. So far, I've gone 8 days with NO connection drops and am wondering if my Belkin N+ router's firewall might be blocking things that my old D-link DI-524 did not block because I got connection drops on that router all the time. Just basically, I wonder if some routers have better firewalls that block more stuff. Well in other words the hardware firewall is still better, but you still need software firewall protection if you don't want software you installed on your PC/MAC to phone home as they say. Comodo Internet Security 3.9 is very good now and it's 100% free for PC! I use that on all my systems. I know you have a MAC so you on your own there. If you're not doing anything silly in your system then you just surf with the router only. Very quick I must say for Belkin N+ Ralink Chips in there for PU and WPU are very good. The range on this router is 1,200 feet. 1. I don't see a Mac version of Comodo: » personalfirewall.comodo.com/down···all.html2. Why would I need a program like Comodo when Mac already has a software firewall?: It's up to you what to buy or use on your MAC. This one here is for the MAC or XP.
Intego Internet Security Barrier X5 Antispam Edition DP keeps Mac OS X and Windows safe from hackers, vandals, spyware, spam and phishing.
Every time you browse on the internet the Cache file that stores data can be infected by malware. If you download files from a site that look good you could be downloading malware or trojan/spyware etc..
Software installs could be calling back to unknown company or threat. Still these should be concerns to everyone. The internet is not safe!
I isolate my browser using some sort of sandbox. The program is from GesWaLL they have Pro and Free. Very easy to use. |
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  fonzbear2000 Premium join:2005-08-09 Saint Paul, MN | Thanks, I VERY MUCH appreciate all your effort, but being on a Mac, I'm not too worried about it. Now, Winblows is another story. -- »Check this out! |
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| said by fonzbear2000 :Thanks, I VERY MUCH appreciate all your effort, but being on a Mac, I'm not too worried about it. Now, Winblows is another story. You're welcome.. One question for you how close did you placed the Belkin N+ where you use your laptop. Do you use the laptop outside also? |
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| said by tipstir :said by fonzbear2000 :Thanks, I VERY MUCH appreciate all your effort, but being on a Mac, I'm not too worried about it. Now, Winblows is another story. You're welcome.. One question for you how close did you placed the Belkin N+ where you use your laptop. Do you use the laptop outside also? Well, we have an iMac and 2 Macbooks. My dad usually uses the iMac while my sister and I are all over the house on the Macbooks. It's quite rare that we're outside though. -- »Check this out! |
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| said by fonzbear2000 :said by tipstir :said by fonzbear2000 :Thanks, I VERY MUCH appreciate all your effort, but being on a Mac, I'm not too worried about it. Now, Winblows is another story. You're welcome.. One question for you how close did you placed the Belkin N+ where you use your laptop. Do you use the laptop outside also? Well, we have an iMac and 2 Macbooks. My dad usually uses the iMac while my sister and I are all over the house on the Macbooks. It's quite rare that we're outside though. Can you go outside with your iMAC like walk around the house to see how you do with the range. If you're battery isn't working on the imac it's okay don't bother. But what you described the router is working great then around the house. |
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| reply to tipstir said by tipstir :Can you go outside with your iMAC like walk around the house to see how you do with the range. If you're battery isn't working on the imac it's okay don't bother. But what you described the router is working great then around the house. Connection seems great all around the yard and speed test results are the same.  -- »Check this out! |
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| said by fonzbear2000 :said by tipstir :Can you go outside with your iMAC like walk around the house to see how you do with the range. If you're battery isn't working on the imac it's okay don't bother. But what you described the router is working great then around the house. Connection seems great all around the yard and speed test results are the same. Thanks for doing that for me.. |
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1 edit | said by tipstir :said by fonzbear2000 :said by tipstir :Can you go outside with your iMAC like walk around the house to see how you do with the range. If you're battery isn't working on the imac it's okay don't bother. But what you described the router is working great then around the house. Connection seems great all around the yard and speed test results are the same. Thanks for doing that for me.. You bet. 
Also, 9 days with NO connection drops! I'm pretty convinced that different wireless routers have different firewalls that block different things and whatever this router is blocking, my previous D-link didn't block which caused it to have connection drops. -- »Check this out! |
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| said by fonzbear2000 :Also, 9 days with NO connection drops! I'm pretty convinced that different wireless routers have different firewalls that block different things and whatever this router is blocking, my previous D-link didn't block which caused it to have connection drops. The typical reasons for having to reset a wireless router are: - radio incompatibilities (usually fixed by firmware update on notebook or router) - P2P or gaming server refresh can cause some routers to run out of memory
And then you have various DNS and DHCP issues, with some cheap consumer routers doing a really bad job of working with Mac OS X even though DHCP and DNS are standards and easy to get right if you are a router vendor.
Its very, very unlikely firewall blocking has anything to do with it, and without more specific info about your disconnects its hard to say (did the Macbook lose IP address, could the Macbook ping the iMac, could you ping the Internet by IP address, etc, etc). I've helped a lot of people and I've never seen the firewall involved with random "disconnect" issues.
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3 edits | said by bbarrera :said by fonzbear2000 :Also, 9 days with NO connection drops! I'm pretty convinced that different wireless routers have different firewalls that block different things and whatever this router is blocking, my previous D-link didn't block which caused it to have connection drops. The typical reasons for having to reset a wireless router are: - radio incompatibilities (usually fixed by firmware update on notebook or router) - P2P or gaming server refresh can cause some routers to run out of memory And then you have various DNS and DHCP issues, with some cheap consumer routers doing a really bad job of working with Mac OS X even though DHCP and DNS are standards and easy to get right if you are a router vendor. Its very, very unlikely firewall blocking has anything to do with it, and without more specific info about your disconnects its hard to say (did the Macbook lose IP address, could the Macbook ping the iMac, could you ping the Internet by IP address, etc, etc). I've helped a lot of people and I've never seen the firewall involved with random "disconnect" issues. Glad the new router is working out for you! It has nothing to do with Mac because the same thing happened before we switched to Macs and had ONLY Windows computers on the network. I have no idea what the computers would do as far as losing their IP's and no nothing about pinging so I never tried that. I don't know what it is, but this router is doing something different than the previous one. Maybe it's the radio incompatibilities. Hmmmmm, come to think of it, I did have ports open for bit torrent and a couple other p2p programs, but I don't anymore because I discovered I can use universal plug 'n play. Maybe that was the reason. However, the problem also happened back when I was wired and I had a D-link wired router. Maybe it's a D-link thing LOL. Then again, I'm sure others would say they have D-link and it never happens. I guess I shouldn't worry too much about it and just be glad that my new router is working so well.  -- »Check this out! |
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| reply to fonzbear2000 said by fonzbear2000 :You bet.  Also, 9 days with NO connection drops! I'm pretty convinced that different wireless routers have different firewalls that block different things and whatever this router is blocking, my previous D-link didn't block which caused it to have connection drops. Not. |
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| said by stevech0 :said by fonzbear2000 :You bet.  Also, 9 days with NO connection drops! I'm pretty convinced that different wireless routers have different firewalls that block different things and whatever this router is blocking, my previous D-link didn't block which caused it to have connection drops. Not. Care to elaborate on why you think not? -- »Check this out! |
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| It was covered earlier, but I'll add my thoughts.
Router anomalies like you've described are pretty common for consumer-grade devices. They typically result from memory exhaustion and poorly-written firmware. The most common cause is the use of P2P applications which can create large numbers of TCP/IP connections.
Skimp on memory to keep the cost low, ship firmware with sloppy code and you have the recipe for a BestBuy special.
Compared to the load placed on the router by P2P apps, a few external pings from script kiddies looking for a mark don't count for much. |
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| said by No_Strings :It was covered earlier, but I'll add my thoughts. Router anomalies like you've described are pretty common for consumer-grade devices. They typically result from memory exhaustion and poorly-written firmware. The most common cause is the use of P2P applications which can create large numbers of TCP/IP connections. Skimp on memory to keep the cost low, ship firmware with sloppy code and you have the recipe for a BestBuy special. Compared to the load placed on the router by P2P apps, a few external pings from script kiddies looking for a mark don't count for much. Thanks for the additional input. Well, Belkin must be doing something right. Also, I got the router at Target, not Best Buy LOL. But seriously, whatever it is, be it better firmware, memory, a combination of both, I would VERY HIGHLY recommend this router to anyone having similar problems. It's all good and hopefully it will stay that way.  -- »Check this out! |
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| said by fonzbear2000 :said by No_Strings :It was covered earlier, but I'll add my thoughts. Router anomalies like you've described are pretty common for consumer-grade devices. They typically result from memory exhaustion and poorly-written firmware. The most common cause is the use of P2P applications which can create large numbers of TCP/IP connections. Skimp on memory to keep the cost low, ship firmware with sloppy code and you have the recipe for a BestBuy special. Compared to the load placed on the router by P2P apps, a few external pings from script kiddies looking for a mark don't count for much. Thanks for the additional input. Well, Belkin must be doing something right. Also, I got the router at Target, not Best Buy LOL. But seriously, whatever it is, be it better firmware, memory, a combination of both, I would VERY HIGHLY recommend this router to anyone having similar problems. It's all good and hopefully it will stay that way. Hey if you care too show us all here a picture of your router just showing the router active.. |
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| said by tipstir :said by fonzbear2000 :said by No_Strings :It was covered earlier, but I'll add my thoughts. Router anomalies like you've described are pretty common for consumer-grade devices. They typically result from memory exhaustion and poorly-written firmware. The most common cause is the use of P2P applications which can create large numbers of TCP/IP connections. Skimp on memory to keep the cost low, ship firmware with sloppy code and you have the recipe for a BestBuy special. Compared to the load placed on the router by P2P apps, a few external pings from script kiddies looking for a mark don't count for much. Thanks for the additional input. Well, Belkin must be doing something right. Also, I got the router at Target, not Best Buy LOL. But seriously, whatever it is, be it better firmware, memory, a combination of both, I would VERY HIGHLY recommend this router to anyone having similar problems. It's all good and hopefully it will stay that way. Hey if you care too show us all here a picture of your router just showing the router active.. You mean a picture of my actual router? What for? LOL -- »Check this out! |
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| said by fonzbear2000 :You mean a picture of my actual router? What for? LOL Just wondering how you have it setup or positioned? |
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Stuff is blurred out because it's a white board with a LOT of phone numbers. -- »Check this out! |
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1 edit | said by fonzbear2000 :  Stuff is blurred out because it's a white board with a LOT of phone numbers. Thanks..
A few questions for you?
How many floors you have in your dwelling? Is this router kept on the first floor? Do you close your door where the router is being used in? Is that phone to the right VOIP or 900MHz, 2.4GHz, 5.8GHz or DECT 6.0 (1.9GHz)?
I see your not using external USB storage HDD to the Router or are you using USB Flash Drive? |
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