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No_Strings
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join:2001-11-22
The OC
reply to tipstir
Re: Update...

What laundry detergent do you use and does it make your whites whiter?

Let's keep this relative to the topic at hand.


tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
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said by No_Strings See Profile :

What laundry detergent do you use and does it make your whites whiter?

Let's keep this relative to the topic at hand.
There is a reason why I am asking those questions. Interference Isolation where the signal is stronger where the member has placed the Belkin N+.


fonzbear2000
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join:2005-08-09
Saint Paul, MN

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1 floor and a basement.
On the first floor, but no one ever uses laptops in the basement.
No.
5.8GHz.
I don't use the external storage feature on the router.
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tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
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said by fonzbear2000 See Profile :

1 floor and a basement.
On the first floor, but no one ever uses laptops in the basement.
No.
5.8GHz.
I don't use the external storage feature on the router.
Thanks for the info, the only reason why I had mention the request was I was curious how you had yours setup. I have notice a drop in signal. I had ditched my 5.8GHz cordless for DECT 6.0 (1.9GHz). A few days later N started to act weird. If I put the router in 802.11b/g mode everything is okay. Once I push it to N ouch! So looking at yours I've move the router to another location, locked it to 802.11n an set the Hz to 20Hz that turns off the channel bonding feature that screws the wireless channel setting. Anyway N is stable again..

Take care..


fonzbear2000
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said by tipstir See Profile :

said by fonzbear2000 See Profile :

1 floor and a basement.
On the first floor, but no one ever uses laptops in the basement.
No.
5.8GHz.
I don't use the external storage feature on the router.
Thanks for the info, the only reason why I had mention the request was I was curious how you had yours setup. I have notice a drop in signal. I had ditched my 5.8GHz cordless for DECT 6.0 (1.9GHz). A few days later N started to act weird. If I put the router in 802.11b/g mode everything is okay. Once I push it to N ouch! So looking at yours I've move the router to another location, locked it to 802.11n an set the Hz to 20Hz that turns off the channel bonding feature that screws the wireless channel setting. Anyway N is stable again..

Take care..
Ah, I see. Well, glad you got your problem worked out too.

Plus, I just got my highest EVER results on a speed test!

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bbarrera
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Sacramento, CA
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said by tipstir See Profile :

move the router to another location, locked it to 802.11n an set the Hz to 20Hz that turns off the channel bonding feature that screws the wireless channel setting. Anyway N is stable again..
Are you saying the Belkin N @ 5GHz is wacky?

I've got an Airport Extreme and house is filled with 5.8GHz cordless and with N on lower 5GHz channels (not the upper 5.8GHz ISM band) and with channel bonding it works great. Transferring 5GB ISO files between wired and wireless computers and consistently getting minimum of 75Mbps for the entire transfer. The draft N in my environment is a 100M Ethernet replacement.


tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI

said by bbarrera See Profile :

said by tipstir See Profile :

move the router to another location, locked it to 802.11n an set the Hz to 20Hz that turns off the channel bonding feature that screws the wireless channel setting. Anyway N is stable again..
Are you saying the Belkin N @ 5GHz is wacky?

I've got an Airport Extreme and house is filled with 5.8GHz cordless and with N on lower 5GHz channels (not the upper 5.8GHz ISM band) and with channel bonding it works great. Transferring 5GB ISO files between wired and wireless computers and consistently getting minimum of 75Mbps for the entire transfer. The draft N in my environment is a 100M Ethernet replacement.
No the Belkin N+ is 2.4GHz uses 2T3R two ANT design and it's range is 1,200 FT. It suppose to pouch though the basement and shot-up the signal. But DECT 6.0 cordless phones are suppose to be Wi-Fi Network friendly. But with 802.11n seems to be a different story and with 802.11g it's okay. I'll have to see how it goes but signal in dBm is showing -50 on the first floor the router is in the basement family room. To move it upstairs would be an issue.


bbarrera
Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-23
Sacramento, CA
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·SureWest Internet

Thats a shame that Belkin N+ only uses the crowded 2.4GHz band, makes wide-band performance suffer if you have a lot of neighbors. Its OK in the SmallNetBuilder price/performance charts:
»www.smallnetbuilder.com/componen···hart,69/

If range isn't an issue then dual-band N provides more flexibility and more channels on 5GHz band. On the uncrowded 5GHz band I'm getting 300Mbps raw connection speeds, and as high as 120Mbps transfer rates. Of course range is usually less than 2.4GHz band. It all comes down to your environment and what you want to optimize (cost, distance, performance).


fonzbear2000
Premium
join:2005-08-09
Saint Paul, MN

said by bbarrera See Profile :

Thats a shame that Belkin N+ only uses the crowded 2.4GHz band, makes wide-band performance suffer if you have a lot of neighbors. Its OK in the SmallNetBuilder price/performance charts:
»www.smallnetbuilder.com/componen···hart,69/

If range isn't an issue then dual-band N provides more flexibility and more channels on 5GHz band. On the uncrowded 5GHz band I'm getting 300Mbps raw connection speeds, and as high as 120Mbps transfer rates. Of course range is usually less than 2.4GHz band. It all comes down to your environment and what you want to optimize (cost, distance, performance).
How do I find out what the raw connection speed on my router is?
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bbarrera
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join:2000-10-23
Sacramento, CA
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·SureWest Internet

You have a Mac? One way is to option-click the Airport item in your menu bar.

Or open Network Utility under Applications > Utilities


fonzbear2000
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Saint Paul, MN
Hmmmmm, my transmit rate is only 130.

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tipstir

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said by fonzbear2000 See Profile :

Hmmmmm, my transmit rate is only 130.

That's why I was wondering what you had setup? 130 Tx. I was getting 120 Tx. Now I get Tx 150/300. With the right settings in the router and placement of the router. Isolate all the LAN/WAN/Power cables so nothing is touching. Reduce the EMI/EMF. Router and my external switches and the modem are not near each other.


fonzbear2000
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Saint Paul, MN


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said by tipstir See Profile :

said by fonzbear2000 See Profile :

Hmmmmm, my transmit rate is only 130.

That's why I was wondering what you had setup? 130 Tx. I was getting 120 Tx. Now I get Tx 150/300. With the right settings in the router and placement of the router. Isolate all the LAN/WAN/Power cables so nothing is touching. Reduce the EMI/EMF. Router and my external switches and the modem are not near each other.
Because of the way things are set up, everything has to be near each other and it's not really possible to isolate the LAN/WAN/power cables. How do I reduce the EMI/EMF? Also, that speed just affects how fast files transfer between shared computers correct? Speed tests and file download speeds are just fine. If it's just file transfer speeds between shared computers, that's not really a big deal.
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tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
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said by fonzbear2000 See Profile :

said by tipstir See Profile :

said by fonzbear2000 See Profile :

Hmmmmm, my transmit rate is only 130.

That's why I was wondering what you had setup? 130 Tx. I was getting 120 Tx. Now I get Tx 150/300. With the right settings in the router and placement of the router. Isolate all the LAN/WAN/Power cables so nothing is touching. Reduce the EMI/EMF. Router and my external switches and the modem are not near each other.
Because of the way things are set up, everything has to be near each other and it's not really possible to isolate the LAN/WAN/power cables. How do I reduce the EMI/EMF? Also, that speed just affects how fast files transfer between shared computers correct? Speed tests and file download speeds are just fine. If it's just file transfer speeds between shared computers, that's not really a big deal.
The NIC in your MAC is that draft-N? Speed for you is great but the quality of the link speed is what you have to watch out for! Mine right now I am on in the upper floor second one showing 150/300 and excellent. I was lousy prior in the week, now look out!


fonzbear2000
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Saint Paul, MN

said by tipstir See Profile :

The NIC in your MAC is that draft-N? Speed for you is great but the quality of the link speed is what you have to watch out for! Mine right now I am on in the upper floor second one showing 150/300 and excellent. I was lousy prior in the week, now look out!
LOL. I'm still wondering how to reduce EMI/EMF. And yes, the NICs in all 3 Macs are N.
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tipstir

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said by fonzbear2000 See Profile :

said by tipstir See Profile :

The NIC in your MAC is that draft-N? Speed for you is great but the quality of the link speed is what you have to watch out for! Mine right now I am on in the upper floor second one showing 150/300 and excellent. I was lousy prior in the week, now look out!
LOL. I'm still wondering how to reduce EMI/EMF. And yes, the NICs in all 3 Macs are N.
Do you plug-in all your devices into surge protectors or some sort of power strips? Some more expensive ones have EMI/EMF reducing.. All power cables are together. Any coax lines used with cable modem kept away from the rest. All LAN cables are together and if you have phone lines should be kept away. But the only issue you have is your not getting 150/300 so you are really getting 120/270 still not bad though.

stevech0

join:2006-09-17
San Diego, CA
power line filters v.s. WiFi performance: Irrelevant


fonzbear2000
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Saint Paul, MN


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said by tipstir See Profile :

said by fonzbear2000 See Profile :

said by tipstir See Profile :

The NIC in your MAC is that draft-N? Speed for you is great but the quality of the link speed is what you have to watch out for! Mine right now I am on in the upper floor second one showing 150/300 and excellent. I was lousy prior in the week, now look out!
LOL. I'm still wondering how to reduce EMI/EMF. And yes, the NICs in all 3 Macs are N.
Do you plug-in all your devices into surge protectors or some sort of power strips? Some more expensive ones have EMI/EMF reducing.. All power cables are together. Any coax lines used with cable modem kept away from the rest. All LAN cables are together and if you have phone lines should be kept away. But the only issue you have is your not getting 150/300 so you are really getting 120/270 still not bad though.
All the devices are plugged into the same power strip and it's a cheaper one so it doesn't have EMI/EMF reducing. A couple questions:
1.I only see 120-130, nothing with 270-300. How do I see if I'm getting those numbers as well?
2. With LAN, coax, and power cables, the signal that travels through them is on the inside of the cable, correct? So, why would it matter if they're near each other?

PLEASE answer BOTH my questions. Thanks.
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tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
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said by fonzbear2000 See Profile :

All the devices are plugged into the same power strip and it's a cheaper one so it doesn't have EMI/EMF reducing. A couple questions:
1.I only see 120-130, nothing with 270-300. How do I see if I'm getting those numbers as well?
2. With LAN, coax, and power cables, the signal that travels through them is on the inside of the cable, correct? So, why would it matter if they're near each other?

PLEASE answer BOTH my questions. Thanks.
TX: RX:
I don't have a mac so I have to go by what you report.

TX: 150 RX: 300

If you get the 150/300 that's the best you'll get from the router for wireless N. That can vary too though. 120/270 or 120/180.


fonzbear2000
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Saint Paul, MN

said by tipstir See Profile :

said by fonzbear2000 See Profile :

All the devices are plugged into the same power strip and it's a cheaper one so it doesn't have EMI/EMF reducing. A couple questions:
1.I only see 120-130, nothing with 270-300. How do I see if I'm getting those numbers as well?
2. With LAN, coax, and power cables, the signal that travels through them is on the inside of the cable, correct? So, why would it matter if they're near each other?

PLEASE answer BOTH my questions. Thanks.
TX: RX:
I don't have a mac so I have to go by what you report.

TX: 150 RX: 300

If you get the 150/300 that's the best you'll get from the router for wireless N. That can vary too though. 120/270 or 120/180.
Ah, I see. Can you answer this question too please?:

With LAN, coax, and power cables, the signal that travels through them is on the inside of the cable, correct? So, why would it matter if they're near each other?
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