tipstir
join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
 ·Cox HSI
2 edits | reply to fonzbear2000
Re: Are there any HIGHLY rated wireless N routers for under $50?
For $29 bucks more go to Target and buy Belkin N+ for $79 bucks. Wal-Mart sells it too but they're hard to find. Don't settle for 10/100 ports you need 10/100/1000 (gig ports) For serious N and wired speed. Belkin N+ very stable the other two well issues. I think Netgear should stick with switches and get out of the consumer wireless router business.
One more thing: DO NOT! Buy Belkin N (10/100) or Belkin N150 that's more like G/N that goes upto 150mbps and not 300mpbs like in N router and suffers from 10/100 mode.
GET Belkin N+ 10/100/1000 (gig wan/gig lan) N 150/300mbps
USB storage Port. |
|
fonzbear2000
Premium
join:2005-08-09
Saint Paul, MN
2 edits | said by tipstir  :For $29 bucks more go to Target and buy Belkin N+ for $79 bucks. Wal-Mart sells it too but they're hard to find. Don't settle for 10/100 ports you need 10/100/1000 (gig ports) For serious N and wired speed. Belkin N+ very stable the other two well issues. I think Netgear should stick with switches and get out of the consumer wireless router business. One more thing: DO NOT! Buy Belkin N (10/100) or Belkin N150 that's more like G/N that goes upto 150mbps and not 300mpbs like in N router and suffers from 10/100 mode. GET Belkin N+ 10/100/1000 (gig wan/gig lan) N 150/300mbps USB storage Port. Would getting just an N be much of an improvement over my current 54mbps wireless G? The main reasons I want to upgrade are 1., sometimes I lose my connection and have to turn off my wireless on my computer and reset the router and I'm hoping the better connection that N gives will fix that and 2., I have Comcast's 12mbps tier with powerboost and only see powerboost speeds when I'm wired directly to the cable modem and I'm hoping an N router will give me better speeds.
--
»Check this out! |
|
CylonRed
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County
| See this thread for opinions on N: »Should I buy an "N" router?
I really do not think your problems will be solved with going to N.
--
Brian
"It drops into your stomach like a Abrams's tank.... driven by Rosanne Barr..." A. Bourdain |
|
fonzbear2000
Premium
join:2005-08-09
Saint Paul, MN
| said by CylonRed :See this thread for opinions on N: » Should I buy an "N" router?I really do not think your problems will be solved with going to N. Thanks, but I still want to give one a try. So, if anyone knows of any N routers that are $50 or less and highly rated, please let me know. Thanks. 
--
»Check this out! |
|
cacroll
Eventually, Prozac becomes normal
Premium
join:2002-07-25
Martinez, CA
| said by fonzbear2000 :I still want to give one a try. So, if anyone knows of any N routers that are $50 or less and highly rated, please let me know.
The success of any WiFi router depends upon the neighbourhood where it's installed. If someone installs one in a neighbourhood thst's saturated with WiFi LANs, it will give poor performance, and it will get a shitty rating. A WiFi router installed in a neighbourhood that's not saturated will give good performance, and will get a good rating.
N routers will simply saturate their neighbourhoods faster.
So buy what looks good, from a store with a liberal return policy. That's conveniently near your house.
--
Cheers,
Chuck
MS-MVP 2005-2008 [Windows - Desktop Experience]
Nitecruzr Dot Net |
|
tipstir
join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI
| reply to fonzbear2000
said by fonzbear2000 :said by tipstir :For $29 bucks more go to Target and buy Belkin N+ for $79 bucks. Wal-Mart sells it too but they're hard to find. Don't settle for 10/100 ports you need 10/100/1000 (gig ports) For serious N and wired speed. Belkin N+ very stable the other two well issues. I think Netgear should stick with switches and get out of the consumer wireless router business. One more thing: DO NOT! Buy Belkin N (10/100) or Belkin N150 that's more like G/N that goes upto 150mbps and not 300mpbs like in N router and suffers from 10/100 mode. GET Belkin N+ 10/100/1000 (gig wan/gig lan) N 150/300mbps USB storage Port. Would getting just an N be much of an improvement over my current 54mbps wireless G? The main reasons I want to upgrade are 1., sometimes I lose my connection and have to turn off my wireless on my computer and reset the router and I'm hoping the better connection that N gives will fix that and 2., I have Comcast's 12mbps tier with powerboost and only see powerboost speeds when I'm wired directly to the cable modem and I'm hoping an N router will give me better speeds. Modem is the key to your speed a slow modem a slow connection. Routers don't last forever after heavy usage like downloading off P2P and Game Play online. I just recommend the Belkin N+ after testing some bad N routers this is the one I've ended up out of 6 N wireless routers since 2007, 2008, and 2009. I didn't bother with Linksys as I did test WRT-310N it has some issues with drops in N on WAN but after flashing to DD-WRT it seems to work just well. But those saucer shaped routers suffer from heat issues because like Netgear they opt out putting on heatsink on the chipsets. WRT610N has heatsink thus reducing the heat at a premium price.
G wireless and N wireless are different all N going to do for you is increase the amount of data you can transfer to and from your wireless network. WAN won't speed will be the same with a slight increase. This all depends on your service 12mbps with powerboost can boost you to 22mbps. Like Cox and Comast you can get a faster Modem on your own, meaning you buy it yourself and thus reduce rental fees. Router then manages your internet with your systems on your network. |
|
fonzbear2000
Premium
join:2005-08-09
Saint Paul, MN
| said by tipstir :Modem is the key to your speed a slow modem a slow connection. I know for a fact it's my router that's slowing me down because when I hook a computer DIRECTLY up to my cable modem, I get BETTER speeds. If a router doesn't slow me down, shouldn't I get the SAME speeds when using it?
--
»Check this out! |
|
tipstir
join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI
| said by fonzbear2000 :said by tipstir :Modem is the key to your speed a slow modem a slow connection. I know for a fact it's my router that's slowing me down because when I hook a computer DIRECTLY up to my cable modem, I get BETTER speeds. If a router doesn't slow me down, shouldn't I get the SAME speeds when using it? If the modem connection to the PC is fine that great as it should be.. Router could slow down your connection too. The cheap routers like $24 bucks which I did buy TEW-652BRP from Trendnet is the same as Dlink DIR-615 C1/C2 hardware. Those use Atheros 9100 series chips for PU/WPU. Fast at first then when it starts to heat up badly because these cheap N routers don't have heatsinks and thus without one the darn this gets so hot it can really mess up performance and shorten the life of the router.
Just plain issues daily. I fix that problem by making my own heatsinks and placing them on the PU, WPU and switch chipset. Heat drop down and router was working but not where it would be if you spend the money on Gig Wireless N router.
Everyone here going to say Linksys, Zyxel, Dlink and I for Belkin N+.. I just know Belkin N+ works without updating the firmware as the firmware they have not is just for additional support for USB HDDs. |
|
Selenia
join:2006-09-22
Pittsfield, MA
 ·Verizon Online DSL
·RoadRunner Cable
2 edits | reply to fonzbear2000
said by fonzbear2000 :Would getting just an N be much of an improvement over my current 54mbps wireless G? The main reasons I want to upgrade are 1., sometimes I lose my connection and have to turn off my wireless on my computer and reset the router and I'm hoping the better connection that N gives will fix that and 2., I have Comcast's 12mbps tier with powerboost and only see powerboost speeds when I'm wired directly to the cable modem and I'm hoping an N router will give me better speeds. Wasting your money unless you actually want/need N speed. In that case, I would still wait for the finalized N standard, instead of the current draft N. Interoperability and stability should improve when all employ the same unified and final spec.
Personally, before complicating things with a non-final spec and higher-speed wireless, I would see why you are having such stability/throughput problems with 802.11g.
There are many settings for 802.11g that can improve stability in the presence of interference, as well as throughput. Read about such things as fragmentation threshold, RTS threshold, protected mode, parabolic antennas, and the like. Some routers let you change antennas, as well. Seems that some routers work better(including mine) in interference ridden environments when set to use g mode only.
See? You still have plenty to try with g. One of these things, or a few in conjunction, is likely to solve your issue. Spending the $$$ on N likely will not,
I own a cheap G router and this pc(the one I'm posting from) is about 50 ft away in interference hell(at least @2.4ghz). It would hardly work with default setup on this pc, if at all. Worked great at lower distance. With some tweaks, I can see my Powerboost speeds over wireless and then some(over the LAN being faster, even) and it's 100% stable 24/7, at the same distance and location of both the AP and pc.
I can advise you on how to set some of these, if interested. I don't want to make a mile long post on the subject for nothing. What kind of signal do you have anyways?
Edit: Saw your latter post. Glad it did help you(probably because of operation in 5.8 ghz-land). The issue with g probably could have been helped to a very large extent. I am going to leave this post for future readers, though, who may benefit from what I said here. |
|
stevech0
join:2006-09-17
San Diego, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
 ·VoicePulse
2 edits | But, you see, they saturated the market with 11g. Revenue declining. 11n is still languishing in committee, not a final standard.
Solution?
Stop saying Draft-N.
Market the crap out of 11n at 300% of 11g prices.
Ah, all better now.
---
After 11n market saturation, what will we be force-fed?
LTE for mobile broadband (WiMax a distant runner-up if Clearwire doesn't chicken out).
Home wireless LAN, hmm, what will it be? UWB is a goner. I dunno. Maybe ObamaLan |
|
Its a Secret
Whatever
Premium
join:2008-02-23
U B Funny | reply to tipstir
Belkin suxs butt. Sorry, but I recommend a D-Link or LinkSys. |
|
tipstir
join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI
| said by Its a Secret :Belkin suxs butt. Sorry, but I recommend a D-Link or LinkSys. Again everyone going to have their favorite router. I have DIR-655 but after using Belkin N+ the wireless N is stable. Gig ports switch and chipset from Realtek 832KB is the same one found in DIR-655 that's in Belkin N+. Non-blocking ports are much quicker though.. |
|
stevech0
join:2006-09-17
San Diego, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·VoicePulse
2 edits | reply to Its a Secret
said by Its a Secret :Belkin suxs butt. Sorry, but I recommend a D-Link or LinkSys. I'm not a Belkin champion, but to condemn ALL models from a given vendor is displaying ignorance.
Ford did OK after the Edsel.
What is useful is to note which vendors have too many Edsels. |
|
