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768K of upstream speed is enough for residential service. NOT! You comment is so naive I don't even know where to start. I'm not a Quest user, but many of my wife's colleagues are and they are definitely not gamers but web developers who work from home for a large PC manufacturer. They constantly complain about their VPN speeds to the corporate network. They see all of their other colleagues getting a nice 2Mbps up and a chipper 6Mbps down and as it turns out the employees NOT on Quest are more productive because they are not always waiting for their uploads/downloads to finish.
How about you open your eyes to a much bigger world SuperWISP and stop trying to rationalize something you really don't understand.
And your comments on P2P are laughable. You do realize that there are loads of legal valid uses for P2P don't you? My company uses P2P for software and driver updates. Its far more efficient and less taxing to our public software offerings than FTP is. |
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 4 edits | Re: 768K of upstream speed is enough for residential service. NO said by axiomatic:They constantly complain about their VPN speeds to the corporate network. That's business use. No surprise that it requires a business class connection. That's not a problem for any ISP to provide, but you should expect to pay a fair price for the larger amount of resources you are consuming and the greater cost of providing them.
said by axiomatic:How about you open your eyes to a much bigger world SuperWISP and stop trying to rationalize something you really don't understand. How about you open your eyes to the real world, where bandwidth costs money and can't just be given away for free?
said by axiomatic:You do realize that there are loads of legal valid uses for P2P don't you? When you signed up for a residential class connection, you agreed not to run a server -- and P2P turns computers into servers. So, P2P is not legal or valid in this situation, even if it is one of the tiny fraction of a percent of cases where P2P is not being used for piracy. Again, you should not expect to use an ISP's resources without paying at least as much as they cost. That's just fair. |
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 | So what you are saying is that Quest is selling something under provisioned and its the users fault somehow for it? Get real... They are trying to do the very least in network infrastructure upgrades while focusing on profiting from that lack of upgrading for their shareholders. Pure and simple.
Stop defending Quest which is obviously a poorly run ISP. You do realize that your comments are counter to most everyone else in here? |
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 | reply to axiomatic Web developers who work from home are engaged in an employment/business use of their broadband. They stick with residential until they find out that the cheap rate comes with "next available" service when their connection goes down.
If you use your car as a taxi, even part time, aren't you required to license and insure it in your jurisdiction as a commercial vehicle?
Anyone who writes off their broadband service is already saving 18 - 28 percent of the cost through their taxes; the down time for service costs them the difference. I'd rather have a line tech out *that day* on a bottom tier enterprise account if I go down. The additional cost is well worth it, and it's not that much. |
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 | reply to SuperWISP said by SuperWISP:When you signed up for a residential class connection, you agreed not to run a server -- and P2P turns computers into servers. So, P2P is not legal or valid in this situation, even if it is one of the tiny fraction of a percent of cases where P2P is not being used for piracy. Again, you should not expect to use an ISP's resources without paying at least as much as they cost. That's just fair. Qwest allows servers, and even has a section in their FAQ on the Q1000 modem about opening hosting ports.
Even if they forbade servers, your argument is invalid because P2P technology is completely legal, and running a torrent client DOES NOT turn your system into a server, it's simply a node whether you're leeching or seeding. It's the content that people download using P2P technology that gets it so much unneeded attention. |
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 1 edit | reply to SuperWISP You do realize that Qwest sells static ip addresses for their residental service. Tell me why a residental customer would need one, if they were not running some sort of server.
and if 768 is plenty enough & anything after that is being used for illegal activity, then why are other companies offering higher upload speeds. For instance Comcast in my area has a 2 meg upload speed & Verizon minimum upload is 2, & I believe they go up to 15 |
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 | Tell me why a residental customer would need one, if they were not running some sort of server. A server can limit access to services based on the IP address trying to communicate with it.
For example, a web hosting company might offer you SSH access and then limit access to allow only your specific IP address to connect.
For the same reason, it could also be useful for people telecommuting. -- from MacStack.net |
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